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magnesium
post Mar 12 2016, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(chickenessence @ Mar 8 2016, 11:39 PM)
Share my opinion.. I could be wrong, but hope at least i am making sense.. hehe.
Best person to answer this question will be people from developer or Quantity surveyor, aka cost controller.

During design and planning stage, usually the developer will keep a data / spreadsheet of all the cost of the projects.
That includes all the consultants fees, land cost, project budget (contract sum of the projects), their internal cost (project team, marketing, admin, etc), authority clearance fee / contribution, and other unforeseen cost, etc.

From there, they will work backward to to see the Net Sale-able Area to determine the selling price of the units. So that is how they pass this info to the marketing team and thus the selling price is revealed to all the buyers.
Sometimes could be other way round which means the marketing team done a survey what is the market requirement.. like what size of the units are preferred, what must be provided, facilities, and affordable price by the people for that properties. Then the project will work to meet the budget.

To answer your question, each party mark up how much for profit.
Depends on how you see it.
Developer just have to take note all the cost as i mentioned above. Perhaps u might be asking how much contractor has mark up each items to their client / developer.
Maybe take an example of supply of floors tiles.
Floor tiles supply this at one price, then local distributor mark up it and sell it to the floor tiles contractor. And there is X contractor won a contract from developer. X contractor sub-contract it to Y contractor to run the show where they appoint the floor tile contractor to do the job.
So you can decide how much things has been marked up from there. (of course sometimes contractor also getting bulk supplies with cheaper price, but have to cost in for installation cost, warranty / defects ).
Hope that answer your question.

In a way, developer may be able to sell at cheaper price if they have their own construction team. (developer cum contractor.. but not always the case).
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Previously i worked with developer than seconded to main con.

Not really cost saving because whatever we do not for profits but for developer status.

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post Mar 13 2016, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(magnesium @ Mar 12 2016, 11:32 PM)
I believe he is not asking for defects liability period (dlp).

Latent defects is if i am not mistaken a defects that we discover after dlp finish.
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Ok, i have to admit i don't really understand what is latent defect.

Altho google explains it is " a fault in the property that could not have been discovered by a reasonably thorough inspection before the sale."

It didn't really explain its relation compare to DLP. And the only thing that come into my mind is.. does it only apply to sub-sale or "build and sell" type property where the property is already completed?
(Correct me if i am wrong as i am here just to learn more.)

Maybe "life's not fair" should share a bit more details?
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post Mar 13 2016, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 18 2014, 01:38 AM)
how many square feet? built up area of the shop. u can use abt RM175 per square feet to calculate. built up area, not land area. say 5 storey is 5000 build up area, then is 175 x 5000 equal to 875k. thus us just general guild line.

approval from authority u need get runner to do for u. competent 1 can help u expedite the approval quickly, but u need to pay for it at higher cost. usually is Malay.
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I'm believe that's the budget calculation for build up area for floor loading of 2.5KN/M2 and if the requirement needs 7.5KN/M2 what's your rule of thumb? Thanks
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post Mar 13 2016, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(life's not fair @ Mar 9 2016, 01:53 PM)
how long is the period for latent defect?
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QUOTE(chickenessence @ Mar 13 2016, 12:15 AM)
Ok, i have to admit i don't really understand what is latent defect.

Altho google explains it is " a fault in the property that could not have been discovered by a reasonably thorough inspection before the sale."

It didn't really explain its relation compare to DLP. And the only thing that come into my mind is.. does it only apply to sub-sale or "build and sell" type property where the property is already completed?
(Correct me if i am wrong as i am here just to learn more.)

Maybe "life's not fair" should share a bit more details?
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the latent damage (in this case, latent defect), the period is 6 years, or 6 years from the date on which the cause of action accrued. As this is covered under limitation act, it is typically 6 years, in some case 1 year or 12 years.
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post Mar 14 2016, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(chickenessence @ Mar 13 2016, 12:15 AM)
Ok, i have to admit i don't really understand what is latent defect.

Altho google explains it is " a fault in the property that could not have been discovered by a reasonably thorough inspection before the sale."

It didn't really explain its relation compare to DLP. And the only thing that come into my mind is.. does it only apply to sub-sale or "build and sell" type property where the property is already completed?
(Correct me if i am wrong as i am here just to learn more.)

Maybe "life's not fair" should share a bit more details?
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This term 'latent defects' only come in final days in my construction industry when i attend my last seminar. I did ask my architect regarding this but i can't remember his explanation.

So im not really familiar with this term. In 10 years my experience no home owner ever brought latent defects issue when all developers try cuci tangan when dlp finish.
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post Mar 15 2016, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(saymyname @ Mar 15 2016, 08:16 PM)
can dogs smell bodies under concrete?
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thinking of burying someone down here?
No idea.. ask the animal expert.
ycs
post Mar 16 2016, 10:41 AM

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anyone know estimate cost to resurface tennis court?
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post Mar 17 2016, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Mar 16 2016, 10:41 AM)
anyone know estimate cost to resurface tennis court?
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It relies on what product u using. Range from 15 to 400 psf
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post Mar 17 2016, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(leonard73 @ Mar 17 2016, 01:40 PM)
It relies on what product u using. Range from 15 to 400 psf
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i was quoted RM20k for this (ignore the "kote", its coat) smile.gif

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post Mar 17 2016, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Mar 17 2016, 02:18 PM)
i was quoted RM20k for this (ignore the "kote", its coat) smile.gif

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Any warranty on performance and labor?
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post Mar 17 2016, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(leonard73 @ Mar 17 2016, 02:57 PM)
Any warranty on performance and labor?
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2 years warranty

btw, are they other cheaper options?
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post Mar 17 2016, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(magnesium @ Mar 14 2016, 02:44 PM)
This term 'latent defects' only come in final days in my construction industry when i attend my last seminar. I did ask my architect regarding this but i can't remember his explanation.

So im not really familiar with this term. In 10 years my experience no home owner ever brought latent defects issue when all developers try cuci tangan when dlp finish.
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I handle construction disputes and will try to explain what is meant by latent defects.

Basically, the easiest way to explain latent defects are defects which are hidden, i.e defects which does not appear during the early period. However, these defects had manifested during construction stage. The easiest example of a latent effect is a perhaps a bad foundation works which was not done according to specification/ drawing/ plans. It is only through the afflux of time that subsequently the defects rear its head.

The main problem of latent defect is to prove that the defect existed in the first place. Because through afflux of time, thing naturally deteriorate thus it becomes almost impossible to know if the defect had occurred in the beginning or due to fair tear and ware. This is when an expert / specialist is needed to prove such defects were latent.

The classic case of Pirelli General Cable Works Ltd v Oscar Faber & Partners [1983] 2 AC 1 exemplifies a case study of latent defects. Note that UK has its own Latent Defect Act, unlike Malaysia.

However, the common law position as expounded in Perelli's case is adopted in Malaysia. Thus limitation of 6 years only runs when the defects could have been reasonably forseen/ identified. Hence, the DLP period plays no part in respect of damages due to latent defects.

Hope this helps to the TS above. (sorry I don't know how to quote multiple posts)








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post Mar 19 2016, 05:43 PM

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Hello all,
I'm not sure whether is this an appropriate place to ask these questions,
but hope someone in the industry can possibly provide me some info.

1. Where I can purchase soil with high clay content in it? Amount about 3kg, not buying in bulk. Visited few hardware shop and road side gardening shop, they dont sell this kind of soil.

2. Is there any website that I'm able to download site investigation report of some previous projects in Malaysia? Or if anyone here have it share with me via PM.

Thanks in advance!
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post Mar 19 2016, 11:10 PM

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How long do you think this thread will go ?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1566155/+3400#entry79177189

Can it reach 1K pages ?
Kva
post Mar 21 2016, 12:07 PM

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Hello there construction sifu,

I recently joined a small construction firm, I am being tasked to look for an affordable warehouse inventory system with those barcode scanning etc (preferably below 10k) to keep track of the construction materials going in and out. Simple single PC with barcode scanner and barcode printer. Don't need those fancy high tech multi warehousing client server system. Any recommendations bro?


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post Mar 22 2016, 12:41 PM

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dear TS,

what is volumetric construction (PVR)?
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post Mar 22 2016, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Mar 17 2016, 04:24 PM)
I handle construction disputes and will try to explain what is meant by latent defects.

Basically, the easiest way to explain latent defects are defects which are hidden, i.e defects which does not appear during the early period. However, these defects had manifested during construction stage. The easiest example of a latent effect is a perhaps a bad foundation works which was not done according to specification/ drawing/ plans. It is only through the afflux of time that subsequently the defects rear its head.

The main problem of latent defect is to prove that the defect existed in the first place. Because through afflux of time, thing naturally deteriorate thus it becomes almost impossible to know if the defect had occurred in the beginning or due to fair tear and ware. This is when an expert / specialist is needed to prove such defects were latent.

The classic case of Pirelli General Cable Works Ltd v Oscar Faber & Partners  [1983] 2 AC 1  exemplifies a case study of latent defects. Note that UK has its own Latent Defect Act, unlike Malaysia.

However, the common law position as expounded in Perelli's case is adopted in Malaysia. Thus limitation of 6 years only runs when the defects could have been reasonably forseen/ identified. Hence, the DLP period plays no part in respect of damages due to latent defects.

Hope this helps to the TS above. (sorry I don't know how to quote multiple posts)
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yes, you are right. in Malaysia the common case would be termite treatment and infested say, 8years after VPed
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post Mar 23 2016, 02:40 PM

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how much is the thickness of the floor/ceiling of a high rise building/apartment? coz i want to drill my ceiling to hang something
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post Mar 23 2016, 02:43 PM

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what is the average salary for Site Supervisor? let's say entry level.
if this is P&C, please PM me the details.

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post Mar 23 2016, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(hanzyms @ Mar 23 2016, 02:40 PM)
how much is the thickness of the floor/ceiling of a high rise building/apartment? coz i want to drill my ceiling to hang something
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i think the floor slab should be around 6-7 inch
what are u gonna hang? just need to be careful sometimes drill on slab will kena steel bar inside

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