Hi Guys,

How many of you here are consultants?
I am Buildin services / M&E engineering consultant.

Cheers.

Share my opinion.. I could be wrong, but hope at least i am making sense.. hehe.
Best person to answer this question will be people from developer or Quantity surveyor, aka cost controller.

During design and planning stage, usually the developer will keep a data / spreadsheet of all the cost of the projects.
That includes all the consultants fees, land cost, project budget (contract sum of the projects), their internal cost (project team, marketing, admin, etc), authority clearance fee / contribution, and other unforeseen cost, etc.

From there, they will work backward to to see the Net Sale-able Area to determine the selling price of the units. So that is how they pass this info to the marketing team and thus the selling price is revealed to all the buyers.
Sometimes could be other way round which means the marketing team done a survey what is the market requirement.. like what size of the units are preferred, what must be provided, facilities, and affordable price by the people for that properties. Then the project will work to meet the budget.

To answer your question, each party mark up how much for profit.
Depends on how you see it.
Developer just have to take note all the cost as i mentioned above. Perhaps u might be asking how much contractor has mark up each items to their client / developer.
Maybe take an example of supply of floors tiles.
Floor tiles supply this at one price, then local distributor mark up it and sell it to the floor tiles contractor. And there is X contractor won a contract from developer. X contractor sub-contract it to Y contractor to run the show where they appoint the floor tile contractor to do the job.
So you can decide how much things has been marked up from there. (of course sometimes contractor also getting bulk supplies with cheaper price, but have to cost in for installation cost, warranty / defects ).
Hope that answer your question.

In a way, developer may be able to sell at cheaper price if they have their own construction team. (developer cum contractor.. but not always the case).

are you asking for your own property?
Should be stated in your S&P agreement.


May refer link below but it could be very outdated.

Ok, i have to admit i don't really understand what is latent defect.

Altho google explains it is " a fault in the property that could not have been discovered by a reasonably thorough inspection before the sale."

It didn't really explain its relation compare to DLP. And the only thing that come into my mind is.. does it only apply to sub-sale or "build and sell" type property where the property is already completed?
(Correct me if i am wrong as i am here just to learn more.)

Maybe "life's not fair" should share a bit more details?

thinking of burying someone down here?
No idea.. ask the animal expert.

"drill my ceiling to hang something"
Yes, typically it is 150mm to 175mm. And soffit of the concrete slab to the bottom steel rebar or BRC can be about 10 to 30mm.
Anchor bolt for you to hang thing will be 20mm to 40mm depth (into the soffit of slab). So if you kena toto, you will be drilling thru a BRC.

Care to share what you want to hang?

"soil with high clay content and site investigation report."
Not my field... but pretty sure Civil engineer / geology engineer can help you u.


Still newbie in Lowyat forum... trying the quote function.
Not sure how things will turn out.

Ok, turn out bad.. should press quote first then only click on reply below..

Just asking randomly.
How many project manager we have here?

Either project manager working as client / developer side or for main contractor side.

I am quite interested to move to project management one day.

For point 3,
It is one of the most discussed topic for people who work in construction line.
We usually compare client / developer / consultant and contractor.

In short, we can conclude that.. it is pretty shit when you are not bosses of the company.

But as a employee usually working as client / developer will be more "valuable".

Consultant / contractor can be very subjective.. as long as one is capable and they can be well paid.
As company earning, contractor usually have better margin compare to consultant. But of course contractor always has higher risks. (cash flow problem.. not getting paid, screw up project and lose money)

Because they just have to like instruct people to work for them only? coordinate and manage ppl.
All the design liability is on consultants?
Usually higher paid?

Are you someone in the industry?

Anyway this is my personal opinion. There will be never ending discussion if really need to.

With IR / certified professional engineer working in consultancy firm or setup own consultancy company can earn as much as the developer project manager / head of projects.

However, if you are someone in the field you will understand there is no 100% good design, there is a lot of compromise here and there, you take risk of your design, get complaints on and off because of design oversight, etc etc.

Working as the developer side may get the same complain but they may just simply taichi it to the consultants.

ya, as long as you guys get the idea.
But sometimes when you are the action party and they just instruct you to do this and that like nobody business.. really
But we all know everyone has a role to play.

Ever see the joke that project manager mentality is that 9 women can give birth in 1 month?

I m not capable of answering this. But quantity surveyor and Civil engineer should be able to help you.

In development, it is quite common to have phase by phase completion. So technically this can be done and not much issues.
But no one can guarantee things for sure.
There is also different types of piling that some will less** affect nearby building.

We also have dilapitation report, where we survey nearby existing building condition. If ex building has cracks the owner wont take advantage and blame it on the new development. However if previously no crack and because of piling work, new crack is found then they will be liable.

Also, have u heard of highland tower incident?

This post has been edited by chickenessence: Apr 22 2016, 12:08 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Towers_collapse

What is your concern about the piling?

sometimes it depends on how you see the defects.
Understand from some other forum topics that some developers will take forever or never repair the defects.
So if you need to stay or rent out, might as well just rectify the defect with your own contractors or just leave it.
(of course see how major is the defects.)
I am wondering what we can do if the developer delay or take no actions about the defects. Happened to my friend that just collect key which condo just got VP recently.
Any comments?

rectifying water proofing issues?
that is one common headache in construction field.
are u asking this for your property?