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 The truth about GREENIFY, Does it REALLY work?

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viqq
post Oct 18 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ Oct 18 2014, 08:26 AM)
Ur phone usage like my grandma phone weh.

Doesn't justify enough tbh. Greenify works.
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Because I'm mostly out of office most of the time, I need a lot of juice but hate bringing power bank around. So maximize juice mode.

QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Oct 18 2014, 08:33 AM)
reason i use greenify
cant stand if got any program i dont wan run in the back,takes my ram
idle power gets battery

i dont expect huge battery gain if use greenify,just for idle power and peace of mind
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If hibernating an app means releasing RAM as well then yeah.

QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Oct 18 2014, 08:58 AM)
Hi-5... and if wanna deepest battery saver.. go ditch Xposed framework... smth was called deep sleep smth (if i not mistaken)
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Switch off the phone completely and switch on when needed is the most power battery saver.
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post Oct 18 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 18 2014, 11:01 AM)
Because I'm mostly out of office most of the time, I need a lot of juice but hate bringing power bank around. So maximize juice mode.
If hibernating an app means releasing RAM as well then yeah.
Switch off the phone completely and switch on when needed is the most power battery saver.
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It will release the unused ram,that's why i love it

Mi3 if without greenify,will left only 300mb,if hibernate all apps =800mb,I'm not a ssocial apps heavy user,so i can sacrifice the fb,wechat,whatapps notification.
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post Oct 18 2014, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(siren @ Oct 17 2014, 10:43 AM)
As usual, first world problem discussing how much battery can be saved or how much lag can minimise despite millions of children still suffering from hunger.
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and yet stupid f*** like you still at lowyat making useless comment. oops
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post Oct 18 2014, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Biscuit @ Oct 18 2014, 12:17 PM)
and yet stupid f*** like you still at lowyat making useless comment. oops
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Hehe, maybe we all should talk about world hunger and nothing else. I don't have detail study to back my claim. But I really didn't notice any battery savings after 6 month of use. After that I uninstalled it
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post Oct 18 2014, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Oct 18 2014, 11:31 AM)
It will release the unused ram,that's why i love it

Mi3 if without greenify,will left only 300mb,if hibernate all apps =800mb,I'm not a ssocial apps heavy user,so i can sacrifice the fb,wechat,whatapps notification.
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Cool. Good to know that.

I'm starting to uninstall every other RAM booster softwares and only keep greenify. Well, I still need the cleanmaster for cleaning junks though.

By the way, what System apps are safe to Greenify? I don't want to f the OS up.

QUOTE(ramz @ Oct 18 2014, 02:08 PM)
Hehe, maybe we all should talk about world hunger and nothing else. I don't have detail study to back my claim. But I really didn't  notice any battery savings after 6 month of use. After that I uninstalled it
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Well saving energy means a better environment also. Why not?
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post Oct 18 2014, 02:56 PM

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Here are my findings.

Apps that are kept in ram do cause significant increase in wake lock
wake lock with greenify is 2%,
without greenify (5-14% depending on a number of background app kept)

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Greenify works by significantly reduces wakelocks. But the results is not that jaw dropping. If u just clear your apps and go to sleep, the results will be the same. Greenify helps by auto force stop your background apps when it's not in use during idle. Just like iOS let unused app freeze and stop wasting resources.

Extra wake lock seems bad, and it does impact battery life, but the impact is very minimal. I done 3 observation.
A 2% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 5% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 14% wake lock causes 5% battery lost over a 6 hour 10 mins period.

I'm giving this issue a rest. Lost interest in further investigating.
In the mean time I'll continue using greenify to freeze fb. It's the highest wake lock contributor.
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post Oct 18 2014, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 18 2014, 02:56 PM)
Here are my findings.

Apps that are kept in ram do cause significant increase in wake lock
wake lock with greenify is 2%,
without greenify (5-14% depending on a number of background app kept)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Greenify works by significantly reduces wakelocks. But the results is not that jaw dropping. If u just clear your apps and go to sleep, the results will be the same. Greenify helps by auto force stop your background apps when it's not in use during idle. Just like iOS let unused app freeze and stop wasting resources.

Extra wake lock seems bad, and it does impact battery life, but the impact is very minimal. I done 3 observation.
A 2% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 5% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 14% wake lock causes 5% battery lost over a 6 hour 10 mins period.

I'm giving this issue a rest. Lost interest in further investigating.
In the mean time I'll continue using greenify to freeze fb. It's the highest wake lock contributor.
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due to your phone battery capacity is higher so then impact of wakelock is not that obvious. if phone with smaller capacity will see more impact from the wakelock.

Google Search seems only trigger wakelock every 10 minutes. did you use xposed+unBounce?
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post Oct 18 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 18 2014, 02:12 PM)
Cool. Good to know that.

I'm starting to uninstall every other RAM booster softwares and only keep greenify. Well, I still need the cleanmaster for cleaning junks though.

By the way, what System apps are safe to Greenify? I don't want to f the OS up.
Well saving energy means a better environment also. Why not?
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well,im not advice you to hibernate system apps,cause that will cost some trouble

i notice google play service can be hibernate,so i tried,it makes me cant sign in sometimes and close my apps downloading. a

if things are hangout,google plus,its safe to hibernate,but all in all,i wouldnt hibernate a single system apps
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post Oct 18 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 18 2014, 03:11 PM)
due to your phone battery capacity is higher so then impact of wakelock is not that obvious. if phone with smaller capacity will see more impact from the wakelock.

Google Search seems only trigger wakelock every 10 minutes. did you use xposed+unBounce?
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No I'm not using un bounce. Never heard of this xposed module.

I'm using Google now. But turned off location reporting
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post Oct 18 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Oct 18 2014, 03:18 PM)
well,im not advice you to hibernate system apps,cause that will cost some trouble

i notice google play service can be hibernate,so i tried,it makes me cant sign in sometimes and close my apps downloading. a

if things are hangout,google plus,its safe to hibernate,but all in all,i wouldnt hibernate a single system apps
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Are you using Samsung phone? Touch wiz have a huge bunch of system apps that are safe to greenify. Heck it's even save to fully uninstall.

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post Oct 18 2014, 03:38 PM

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save battery and keep annoying notification keep coming again n again...
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post Oct 18 2014, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(poad @ Oct 18 2014, 03:38 PM)
save battery and keep annoying notification keep coming again n again...
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if u never triggered it then it supposed to be automatically hibernate your apps, unless u go to apps setting to turn off notifications lah...

adui... need to teach meh tongue.gif
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post Oct 18 2014, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Oct 18 2014, 07:10 PM)
if u never triggered it then it supposed to be automatically hibernate your apps, unless u go to apps setting to turn off notifications lah...

adui... need to teach meh tongue.gif
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who?games cannot turn off notification..
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post Oct 18 2014, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 18 2014, 03:35 PM)
Are you using Samsung phone? Touch wiz have a huge bunch of system apps that are safe to greenify. Heck it's even save to fully uninstall.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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i used moto g(no bloatware) and mi3 for now(not much bloatware),for those apps u mention,usually i freeze it,or delete the apk (i used s2 b4) laugh.gif
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post Oct 18 2014, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 18 2014, 02:56 PM)
Here are my findings.

Apps that are kept in ram do cause significant increase in wake lock
wake lock with greenify is 2%,
without greenify (5-14% depending on a number of background app kept)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Greenify works by significantly reduces wakelocks. But the results is not that jaw dropping. If u just clear your apps and go to sleep, the results will be the same. Greenify helps by auto force stop your background apps when it's not in use during idle. Just like iOS let unused app freeze and stop wasting resources.

Extra wake lock seems bad, and it does impact battery life, but the impact is very minimal. I done 3 observation.
A 2% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 5% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 14% wake lock causes 5% battery lost over a 6 hour 10 mins period.

I'm giving this issue a rest. Lost interest in further investigating.
In the mean time I'll continue using greenify to freeze fb. It's the highest wake lock contributor.
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I dont know much, but from my findings and opinion, Greenify does help me in terms of saving more juice (Battery) during screen off time, as like Facebook/Twitter/Instagram. As those types of social apps (or something like it) introduces wakelocks during Deep Sleep as they uses Google Cloud Messaging (Push Notifications) in which, involve in many wakelocks. In my usage, i never care about any notification from those apps, im more to Messaging apps guy, so i would just Hibernate them.

About system wakelock, that doesnt contribute to this issue unless you're using Greenify to hibernate them then we can talk. If you just hibernate some user apps you downloaded from PlayStore, thats totally different story.

In your case, maybe your facebook or any social apps doesnt have much notification to create big wakelocks. But you mentioned FB still produce wakelocks even after Greenify?
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post Oct 19 2014, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Oct 18 2014, 03:18 PM)
well,im not advice you to hibernate system apps,cause that will cost some trouble

i notice google play service can be hibernate,so i tried,it makes me cant sign in sometimes and close my apps downloading. a

if things are hangout,google plus,its safe to hibernate,but all in all,i wouldnt hibernate a single system apps
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I noticed that there's this App not installed thingy after installing Greenify or maybe because of the Xposed GEL module when I disable Google now? Hmm...

QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 18 2014, 03:35 PM)
Are you using Samsung phone? Touch wiz have a huge bunch of system apps that are safe to greenify. Heck it's even save to fully uninstall.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Whooaa.. I'm glad I'm on AOSP. But amazing that the note 3 still get so much battery juice with these bloatwares
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post Oct 19 2014, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 19 2014, 12:34 AM)
I noticed that there's this App not installed thingy after installing Greenify or maybe because of the Xposed GEL module when I disable Google now? Hmm...
Whooaa.. I'm glad I'm on AOSP. But amazing that the note 3 still get so much battery juice with these bloatwares
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Those bloatware doesn't affect battery life much.
Even deleting all of them save me about 50MB space only.
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QUOTE(wajahebat @ Oct 18 2014, 09:56 PM)
I dont know much, but from my findings and opinion, Greenify does help me in terms of saving more juice (Battery) during screen off time, as like Facebook/Twitter/Instagram. As those types of social apps (or something like it) introduces wakelocks during Deep Sleep as they uses Google Cloud Messaging (Push Notifications) in which, involve in many wakelocks. In my usage, i never care about any notification from those apps, im more to Messaging apps guy, so i would just Hibernate them.

About system wakelock, that doesnt contribute to this issue unless you're using Greenify to hibernate them then we can talk. If you just hibernate some user apps you downloaded from PlayStore, thats totally different story.

In your case, maybe your facebook or any social apps doesnt have much notification to create big wakelocks. But you mentioned FB still produce wakelocks even after Greenify?
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I wonder how did you get that idea because I never said anything like that.

I'm comparing standby time while I sleep with and without greenify. One of the apps I greenify is Facebook.

With greenify, fb cause zero wake lock.
Without greenify, the wake lock is amazing, one day it has 70+ and another 100+.

I don't use fb messenger, contact sync is turn off, and notification off as well. But it still have so much wake lock. A terrible app if u ask me.

Refer to screen shots of wake lock detector I posted. It should give u a good idea.
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 19 2014, 07:04 AM)
I wonder how did you get that idea because I never said anything like that.

I'm comparing standby time while I sleep with and without greenify. One of the apps I greenify is Facebook.

With greenify, fb cause zero wake lock.
Without greenify, the wake lock is amazing, one day it has 70+ and another 100+.

I don't use fb  messenger, contact sync is turn off, and notification off as well. But it still have so much wake lock. A terrible app if u ask me.

Refer to screen shots of wake lock detector I posted. It should give u a good idea.
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Blue : With greenify, you dont have FB wakelocks anymore.

Red : Yet you mentioned you still got wakelock, when? With greenify or without? I thought you got zero wakelock when using Greenify as like what u said in Blue
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 11:08 AM)
well this IS a forum section about android. what else are we suppose to discuss?

i think there is a section called real world issue, head over there if this place doesn't interest you.
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off-topic: i like the way you handle mess,so mature and leaves no chance for further argument!
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