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post Oct 17 2014, 10:36 AM, updated 11y ago

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I've been using greenify for a long time.
i dont really know whether it is helping me save battery or causing me more trouble.
since opening a hibernated app has a tiny delay. not noticeable in most app, but very obvious for facebook.
opening a hibernated FB and you have to wait it load from scratch and stuck at the splash screen for 1-2 seconds.

below is battery info of 2 days. both approximate in standby for 7 hours. in the same spot on my table connected to the same wifi.

First one, with greenify.
almost all user apps&games and many unused system apps were greenify. only messaging apps like viber whatsapp hangouts, and google search were left untouched.
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second one, with greenify uninstalled.
i left google+, chrome, and FB running in the background (open the app and press home button)
wakelock duration is almost twice compared with with greenify, FB being the biggest culprit
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but strangely...the battery drain is the same, both left with 97%. , both case also lose 3% over a period of 7 hours.
greenify doesn't do much to help save battery.
and in the case of FB, it causes unnecessary delay for app opening.

do you still think it's worth using greenify?

Update: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=70947771

This post has been edited by mtxx: Oct 18 2014, 03:00 PM
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post Oct 17 2014, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(siren @ Oct 17 2014, 10:43 AM)
As usual, first world problem discussing how much battery can be saved or how much lag can minimise despite millions of children still suffering from hunger.
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well this IS a forum section about android. what else are we suppose to discuss?

i think there is a section called real world issue, head over there if this place doesn't interest you.
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post Oct 17 2014, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Oct 17 2014, 01:10 PM)
I am using greenify pro recently on my LG G Pro2, mediapad x1 n ex oppo Find7
Excellent battery savings. With phone on standby battery drain say over even 7 hours hardly exceed 2%
Before using greenify pro a drop of 5-7% is common
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but for my case, got or no greenify also same only.
u try disable your greenify for one day. freeze it with titanium backup and see la.
maybe same results also.
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post Oct 17 2014, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Oct 17 2014, 02:38 PM)
IF you have WeChat installed, Greenify is a must.
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i dont use wechat, but if you greenify wechat, it will still get message?

getting lots of comments that say greenify help save battery.
but truth is, i let it overnight in standby with the most prominent wakelock culprits in the background, i get the same battery life. though the wakelock is higher without greenify, battery drain is identical.

wonder anyone actually do comparison with and without greenify.
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post Oct 17 2014, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Oct 17 2014, 02:47 PM)
Nope, unless you're on Greenify Pro. I'm a person who check my phone on regular intervals, since I have so many phones to deal with. Plus I rarely use WeChat, only use it to contact those that are from China.

Let me ask you, would you rather have battery consuming and long duration wakelocks? Or many but short and low battery consumption wakelocks?
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i am using greenify pro, boost mode and xposed and everything.

i also want to believe greenify helps. but truth is there is no difference.
view picture in first post. same battery drain. 3% in 7 hours. rclxub.gif

i'll do more test next week.
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post Oct 17 2014, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(wajahebat @ Oct 17 2014, 02:46 PM)
I dont know about you. Ive been using Greenify for almost a year and a half. My enthusiasm in android convince me that Greenify increased my battery life. Why? Because it prevents all wakelocks that ive added to Hibernation Mode. I already tried many times after flashing new rom ,without installing Greenify and i compare them with Greenify install and Hibernation mode active, result is obvious to me that Greenify does help.

You saying your phone got delay when open up Facebook, but you hibernate facebook right? Dont want delay just dont hibernate it, just a couple of seconds does not interfere much in your life.

If you feel unhappy about Greenify, you are welcome to make a complaint in XDA greenify thread.
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i used to believe greenify helps. i even bought full version to support.
but after i realize same battery drain only, i feel like i wasted my money only.

FB is the app that has the highest wake trigger. 100+ times, it's like >10 times every hour. lol...

btw i also got post in xda. but there like ghost town.

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post Oct 17 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(wajahebat @ Oct 17 2014, 03:04 PM)
Have you identify the culprit who sucks your battery? Is it Greenify or Facebook?
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I don't have battery drain. My battery life is excellent.
I was using greenify all this while

Just that I have a curious thought one day. I wonder how bad my battery life would be without greenify. Wana get some data so I can convince people to use greenify. Showing people proof is more convincing than just saying greenify save battery like a boss

So I freeze greenify yesterday morning. Use my phone like usual. And let it be though out the night. Expecting to wake with 2-3 times the battery drain.

But guess what? It's the same. So I wonder whether greenify is really doing its job.

But i guess it toot early to judge jz base one one day test. I'll try again few times and see.
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post Oct 17 2014, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 17 2014, 06:11 PM)
Another question, do you have Xposed install?
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Yes. Activated.
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post Oct 17 2014, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 17 2014, 05:24 PM)
What phone are you using? IMO new phones won't see that much of an impact cos the battery is fairly new.

Maybe you'll see more results on older phones?

I installed greenify on my mi3 with aosp it does help a bit when on idle. If you're using your phone most of the time don't think it'll help much since some of the apps only hibernate after screen is off. Killing tasks in the background helps conserve battery too. So if you kill background tasks oftenly, don't think you'll see significant differences.

By the way I have no problems with notifications for my WhatsApp. I do get instant notifications. No lag or anything so far.
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That's why I compare when they are idle. I will try again tonight.


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post Oct 17 2014, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Oct 17 2014, 06:51 PM)
Can greenify freezes chrome and google services. Those seems to be running in background all the time. Does this consume battery?
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You need the paid version only can freeze system apps.
You can freeze chrome if u have the donate versjon. But it's not advisable to freeze Google service. It will get woken all the time, many apps need it.


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post Oct 17 2014, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 17 2014, 07:20 PM)
Mind if I ask what phone are you using? That battery life is pretty healthy in the first place. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 17 2014, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 17 2014, 08:51 PM)
IMO the first few % is not accurate, sometime even after some usage the % still not dropped. maybe should try more hours until the % drop till 90% or less.
chrome i think no need to greenify. i check with wakelock, it doesn't wakes up the system or prevent from deep sleep.
but google search in other hands really need to be greenify, it wakes the system way too much time.
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I only sleep 7 hours a day. That only enough to make it drop 3%.
U wan me to drain it in standby to 90% then I need to leave it idle 21 hours. Impossible la. I need to use my phone.

Google now won't work if u greenify search. So I leave it on.

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post Oct 17 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Oct 17 2014, 09:45 PM)
If i disable google search,playstore still functioning rite?
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Play store n search not related. Disable search will not affect play store
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post Oct 18 2014, 02:56 PM

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Here are my findings.

Apps that are kept in ram do cause significant increase in wake lock
wake lock with greenify is 2%,
without greenify (5-14% depending on a number of background app kept)

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Greenify works by significantly reduces wakelocks. But the results is not that jaw dropping. If u just clear your apps and go to sleep, the results will be the same. Greenify helps by auto force stop your background apps when it's not in use during idle. Just like iOS let unused app freeze and stop wasting resources.

Extra wake lock seems bad, and it does impact battery life, but the impact is very minimal. I done 3 observation.
A 2% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 5% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 14% wake lock causes 5% battery lost over a 6 hour 10 mins period.

I'm giving this issue a rest. Lost interest in further investigating.
In the mean time I'll continue using greenify to freeze fb. It's the highest wake lock contributor.
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post Oct 18 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 18 2014, 03:11 PM)
due to your phone battery capacity is higher so then impact of wakelock is not that obvious. if phone with smaller capacity will see more impact from the wakelock.

Google Search seems only trigger wakelock every 10 minutes. did you use xposed+unBounce?
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No I'm not using un bounce. Never heard of this xposed module.

I'm using Google now. But turned off location reporting
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post Oct 18 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Oct 18 2014, 03:18 PM)
well,im not advice you to hibernate system apps,cause that will cost some trouble

i notice google play service can be hibernate,so i tried,it makes me cant sign in sometimes and close my apps downloading. a

if things are hangout,google plus,its safe to hibernate,but all in all,i wouldnt hibernate a single system apps
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Are you using Samsung phone? Touch wiz have a huge bunch of system apps that are safe to greenify. Heck it's even save to fully uninstall.

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post Oct 19 2014, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 19 2014, 12:34 AM)
I noticed that there's this App not installed thingy after installing Greenify or maybe because of the Xposed GEL module when I disable Google now? Hmm...
Whooaa.. I'm glad I'm on AOSP. But amazing that the note 3 still get so much battery juice with these bloatwares
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Those bloatware doesn't affect battery life much.
Even deleting all of them save me about 50MB space only.
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post Oct 19 2014, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(wajahebat @ Oct 18 2014, 09:56 PM)
I dont know much, but from my findings and opinion, Greenify does help me in terms of saving more juice (Battery) during screen off time, as like Facebook/Twitter/Instagram. As those types of social apps (or something like it) introduces wakelocks during Deep Sleep as they uses Google Cloud Messaging (Push Notifications) in which, involve in many wakelocks. In my usage, i never care about any notification from those apps, im more to Messaging apps guy, so i would just Hibernate them.

About system wakelock, that doesnt contribute to this issue unless you're using Greenify to hibernate them then we can talk. If you just hibernate some user apps you downloaded from PlayStore, thats totally different story.

In your case, maybe your facebook or any social apps doesnt have much notification to create big wakelocks. But you mentioned FB still produce wakelocks even after Greenify?
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I wonder how did you get that idea because I never said anything like that.

I'm comparing standby time while I sleep with and without greenify. One of the apps I greenify is Facebook.

With greenify, fb cause zero wake lock.
Without greenify, the wake lock is amazing, one day it has 70+ and another 100+.

I don't use fb messenger, contact sync is turn off, and notification off as well. But it still have so much wake lock. A terrible app if u ask me.

Refer to screen shots of wake lock detector I posted. It should give u a good idea.
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post Oct 19 2014, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(wajahebat @ Oct 19 2014, 08:29 AM)
Blue : With greenify, you dont have FB wakelocks anymore.

Red : Yet you mentioned you still got wakelock, when? With greenify or without? I thought you got zero wakelock when using Greenify as like what u said in Blue
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Oops my bad. I though in another paragraph I'm comparing without greenify tongue.gif
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post Oct 19 2014, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(wajahebat @ Oct 19 2014, 02:32 PM)
What System App did you Greenified? Ure using Greenify Donate version or Free?

From what i saw from all your screenshot, its like you didnt Greenify any system app, i still can see Google Search as the app that do contribute in wakelock.

Youre using Cyanogenmod based rom? You have Privacy Guard to block certain permission of all apps. Use them
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I uninstall all touch wiz bloatware.

I use greenify donate. I greenify some system apps like maps, google+ YouTube chrome

Google search I need. I'm using Google now.

I don't use cm. I'm using stock touch wiz rom.
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