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 The truth about GREENIFY, Does it REALLY work?

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NightFelix
post Oct 17 2014, 08:13 PM

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Idle battery drop is another story.

Because Greenify is work to block the apps from trigger awake.

I have OnePlus One, no matter how hard to mod my device, it still drain on idle 1% per hours because I have activate the double tap to wake feature (with or without the help of Greenify)
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post Oct 17 2014, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 17 2014, 08:13 PM)
Idle battery drop is another story.

Because Greenify is work to block the apps from trigger awake.

I have OnePlus One, no matter how hard to mod my device, it still drain on idle 1% per hours because I have activate the double tap to wake feature (with or without the help of Greenify)
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The double tap on ONO I think is poorly executed...there is absolutely close to ZERO battery drain on my LG G Pro2 and ex Oppo Find 7 with the double tap activated. I'd been reading of such battery drains in ONO forums. Another problem is the often sudden wakeup of phone while inside pockets ?? - the doubletap is perhaps overly sensitive causing this

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post Oct 17 2014, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Oct 17 2014, 08:19 PM)
The double tap on ONO I think is poorly executed...there is absolutely close to  ZERO battery drain on my LG G Pro2 and ex Oppo Find 7 with the double tap activated. I'd been reading of such battery drains in ONO forums. Another problem is the often sudden wakeup of phone while inside pockets ?? - the doubletap is perhaps overly sensitive causing this
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Yeah, I do agree with you the OnePlus Team and as well CM Team are poorly make use of the hardware and software for the DoubleTap to Wake. Is no where as good as LG G series device.

As for the sudden wakeup I haven't face even once it so far for my daily usage, I wonder don't you Find 7 have sudden wakeup ever once before? Since both Find 7 and One are using the same hardware. Just QHD and FHD between it.
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post Oct 17 2014, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Oct 17 2014, 07:40 PM)
Do you hibernate system apps too?
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post Oct 17 2014, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 17 2014, 08:25 PM)
Yeah, I do agree with you the OnePlus Team and as well CM Team are poorly make use of the hardware and software for the DoubleTap to Wake. Is no where as good as LG G series device.

As for the sudden wakeup I haven't face even once it so far for my daily usage, I wonder don't you Find 7 have sudden wakeup ever once before? Since both Find 7 and One are using the same hardware. Just QHD and FHD between it.
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I never faced this wakeup issue on my Oppo Find 7 ; if it does than I am totally unaware about it
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post Oct 17 2014, 08:38 PM

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Actually android already have a pretty good ram management system.

Greenify is just an extra. I don't know if we really need it but so far so good la.

Besides Greenify i also use ShutApp and CleanMaster to clean the background services
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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 17 2014, 08:38 PM)
Actually android already have a pretty good ram management system.

Greenify is just an extra. I don't know if we really need it but so far so good la.

Besides Greenify i also use ShutApp and CleanMaster to clean the background services
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I think you miss understand the way of Greenify usage, I not sure for ShutApp, but CleanMaster basically just another Apps Killer, or you can call it Force Close. Greenify doesn't not kill the apps like any other Apps Killer or Task Manager, Greenify is put the apps to sleep (or you can call it Hibernate) and when you need it or use it, it resume back where you left off, while Task Killer can't do this.
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post Oct 17 2014, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 10:36 AM)
I've been using greenify for a long time.
i dont really know whether it is helping me save battery or causing me more trouble.
since opening a hibernated app has a tiny delay. not noticeable in most app, but very obvious for facebook.
opening a hibernated FB and you have to wait it load from scratch and stuck at the splash screen for 1-2 seconds.

below is battery info of 2 days. both approximate in standby for 7 hours. in the same spot on my table connected to the same wifi.

First one, with greenify.
almost all user apps&games and many unused system apps were greenify. only messaging apps like viber whatsapp hangouts, and google search were left untouched.
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second one, with greenify uninstalled.
i left google+, chrome, and FB running in the background (open the app and press home button)
wakelock duration is almost twice compared with with greenify, FB being the biggest culprit
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but strangely...the battery drain is the same, both left with 97%. , both case also lose 3% over a period of 7 hours.
greenify doesn't do much to help save battery.
and in the case of FB, it causes unnecessary delay for app opening.

do you still think it's worth using greenify?
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IMO the first few % is not accurate, sometime even after some usage the % still not dropped. maybe should try more hours until the % drop till 90% or less.

QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Oct 17 2014, 06:51 PM)
Can greenify freezes chrome and google services. Those seems to be running in background all the time. Does this consume battery?
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chrome i think no need to greenify. i check with wakelock, it doesn't wakes up the system or prevent from deep sleep.
but google search in other hands really need to be greenify, it wakes the system way too much time.
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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 17 2014, 07:20 PM)
Mind if I ask what phone are you using? That battery life is pretty healthy in the first place. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 17 2014, 08:51 PM)
IMO the first few % is not accurate, sometime even after some usage the % still not dropped. maybe should try more hours until the % drop till 90% or less.
chrome i think no need to greenify. i check with wakelock, it doesn't wakes up the system or prevent from deep sleep.
but google search in other hands really need to be greenify, it wakes the system way too much time.
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I only sleep 7 hours a day. That only enough to make it drop 3%.
U wan me to drain it in standby to 90% then I need to leave it idle 21 hours. Impossible la. I need to use my phone.

Google now won't work if u greenify search. So I leave it on.

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 17 2014, 08:51 PM)
IMO the first few % is not accurate, sometime even after some usage the % still not dropped. maybe should try more hours until the % drop till 90% or less.
chrome i think no need to greenify. i check with wakelock, it doesn't wakes up the system or prevent from deep sleep.
but google search in other hands really need to be greenify, it wakes the system way too much time.
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If i disable google search,playstore still functioning rite?
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post Oct 17 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Oct 17 2014, 09:45 PM)
If i disable google search,playstore still functioning rite?
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Play store n search not related. Disable search will not affect play store
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post Oct 17 2014, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 17 2014, 08:47 PM)
I think you miss understand the way of Greenify usage, I not sure for ShutApp, but CleanMaster basically just another Apps Killer, or you can call it Force Close. Greenify doesn't not kill the apps like any other Apps Killer or Task Manager, Greenify is put the apps to sleep (or you can call it Hibernate) and when you need it or use it, it resume back where you left off, while Task Killer can't do this.
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Exactly, I know what Greenify does. I can only say that one of the reason why I sometimes prefer killing tasks completely is to free up RAM. I'm too used to the built in cleaner of the MIUI. Now that I've gone to AOSP, I have yet to give up this idea of killing the tasks completely to free up RAM.

But then again, I have yet to discover if an app goes into hibernation will it take up the RAM usage as well? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 09:14 PM)
I only sleep 7 hours a day. That only enough to make it drop 3%.
U wan me to drain it in standby to 90% then I need to leave it idle 21 hours. Impossible la. I need to use my phone.

Google now won't work if u greenify search. So I leave it on.
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Otherwise the data from 100% drop few % is not accurate. My G Pro 2 from 100% directly use for 20 minutes SOT still show 100%.

Only if you always use Google Now voice function, otherwise no point to have it keep running and every minute it'll wake up the device.

QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 17 2014, 10:14 PM)
Exactly, I know what Greenify does. I can only say that one of the reason why I sometimes prefer killing tasks completely is to free up RAM. I'm too used to the built in cleaner of the MIUI. Now that I've gone to AOSP, I have yet to give up this idea of killing the tasks completely to free up RAM.

But then again, I have yet to discover if an app goes into hibernation will it take up the RAM usage as well?  hmm.gif
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No point to always killing app, android system is designed to load app that you frequently use as stand by so killing it means it'll load the app over and over again making your battery worse.

When greenify put an app into hibernation it basically just kill the app when going into deep sleep. It will also free up the ram. This is why I didn't put Chrome in greenify list, otherwise it will load again all the many tabs.
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post Oct 17 2014, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 17 2014, 10:47 PM)
Otherwise the data from 100% drop few % is not accurate. My G Pro 2 from 100% directly use for 20 minutes SOT still show 100%.

Only if you always use Google Now voice function, otherwise no point to have it keep running and every minute it'll wake up the device.
No point to always killing app, android system is designed to load app that you frequently use as stand by so killing it means it'll load the app over and over again making your battery worse.

When greenify put an app into hibernation it basically just kill the app when going into deep sleep. It will also free up the ram. This is why I didn't put Chrome in greenify list, otherwise it will load again all the many tabs.
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I see. Nice tip! But I do need the cleanmaster for cleaning junks.
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post Oct 18 2014, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 17 2014, 10:14 PM)
Exactly, I know what Greenify does. I can only say that one of the reason why I sometimes prefer killing tasks completely is to free up RAM. I'm too used to the built in cleaner of the MIUI. Now that I've gone to AOSP, I have yet to give up this idea of killing the tasks completely to free up RAM.

But then again, I have yet to discover if an app goes into hibernation will it take up the RAM usage as well?  hmm.gif
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After JellyBean/ICS you no longer need to kill task unless you are using 512RAM bro sweat.gif

Also, the Greenify Hibernation doesn't take your RAM if your Apps goes hibernated. It work exactly like Task Killer but it won't kill it, I don't know code, but this is really how it works, you try compare task killer and Greenify on the Chrome (with few tabs) you can get what I mean.
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post Oct 18 2014, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 18 2014, 12:49 AM)
After JellyBean/ICS you no longer need to kill task unless you are using 512RAM bro sweat.gif

Also, the Greenify Hibernation doesn't take your RAM if your Apps goes hibernated. It work exactly like Task Killer but it won't kill it, I don't know code, but this is really how it works, you try compare task killer and Greenify on the Chrome (with few tabs) you can get what I mean.
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Haha I always like to see my ram a lot ma.

Now i kill apps only after a long session with it, then hibernate it.

Anyways still having this habit of cleaning the background tasks coz of miui

By the way does widget take up resources? I've set hibernation & lock on my desktop to preserve the power button
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post Oct 18 2014, 08:26 AM

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Ur phone usage like my grandma phone weh.

Doesn't justify enough tbh. Greenify works.
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post Oct 18 2014, 08:33 AM

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reason i use greenify
cant stand if got any program i dont wan run in the back,takes my ram
idle power gets battery

i dont expect huge battery gain if use greenify,just for idle power and peace of mind
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post Oct 18 2014, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(Ultima @ Oct 17 2014, 11:15 AM)
im still using it.

not bcoz of the battery, but i need it to disable push notification on certain apps coz its annoying.

if its improving my battery life, its a plus
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Hi-5... and if wanna deepest battery saver.. go ditch Xposed framework... smth was called deep sleep smth (if i not mistaken)

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