well here is the point regarding the PR.
it is not just accountant, it is doctors, ITs, engineers and many more.
accounting is one of the easiest in accordance in demand needs.

Anybody studying in University of Newcastle ??

can you give ur MSN email?mind to add me?just want to make some friends there from malaysia

I'm going to Australia in 2009, there are a few of universities which is in my list, what I'm trying to ask is whether to go for a Go8 well reputation universities or to some which is not so well known but they are giving scholarships like newcastle, tasmania and so on. Is there any main difference between the graduates of these universities? By the way , im doing electronic and electrical engineering

Name of the uni counts a lot. If you are comparing newcastle and tasmania to the top universities in Australia, then I would advise you to go for the top universities despite the scholarships. Im speaking from my experience and I believe some other people might have experienced something different.

Well choosing which uni to go is one thing, can you afford to pay the full tuition fee if you decide not to take the scholarship is another issue. If getting the scholarship or not is not an issue for you, I'd say go for the top university instead.

if you intend to work in oz, where you graduate from may help you get an interview, but not necessary the job...........and after your first job, where you graduate from doesn't really matter anymore..........

if you intend to return here, then where you graduate from is probably irrelevant, most people don't know which uni is more prestigious, many just put down XXX (australia)..........

so if money is tight, go for cheap and scholarships........

electronic and electrical ???
why don't u go QUT Queensland Uni of Tech (no 1. tech uni in Australia).
If u plan to stay there and work.
go SUT : Swinburne Uni Of Tech (melbourne) (no2. in Tech Uni, No1 and 100% recruit rate in australia) but i'm not sure they accept international student for this faculty ......

Good luck ....
Uni of NC : the place is nice and i enjoy travel there ....

limeuu, I think you underestimated the HR people in Malaysia. They do very often know which universities are more prestigious. However, they might and might not be biased in selecting candidates for interview from different universities. From my experience, it is easier to get an interview if you come from a famous university and the interview itself might be easier too. I have friends studying in different universities across Australia and share my view on this subject matter.

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Added on November 12, 2007, 8:02 amSonnyCool, I did not see any Australian electronic and electrical engineering course ranking around the internet. So, can you tell me where did you secure the above information? So far, I remember my engineering friends telling me that UNSW had the best reputation for engineering thereby having the highest TER score requirement. Anyway, I still believe the group of eight is a safer bet if you were to look for reputable universities within Australia.

This post has been edited by fletcherwind: Nov 12 2007, 08:02 AM

Since when? Justify your claim.

Probably not wrong. Engineering wise, some universities like UTS are also well regarded, even if its not in the Go8.

I am afraid not, The highest TER requirement from Australia for engineering degress is University of Sydney. UNSW has the lowest TER requirement among the G8 universities because it has the largest students intake .

Well, a quick comparison for 2008 intake. UNSW: http://www.international.unsw.edu.au/futur...ntry_guide.html . University of Melbourne: http://www.futurestudents.unimelb.edu.au/a.../augscores.html. I didnt bother to check the TER requirement for Uni of Sydney. But your claim that UNSW has the lowest TER requirement for engineering among G8 is false.

you can't really judge the quality of a programme based on the TER cut-offs....that depends on other factors like the number of places, and the number of applicants......

a better guide woul be data on the employability of graduates, ie, how many graduates still unemployed 3, 6 months after graduating, and feedback from the employers.......

for engineers in general, under the current economic climate, the majority will be headhunter and offered employment BEFORE graduating..........

What about RMIT? I thought it's a good technology University as well, hmmm regarding to the Go8, i thought some of them are not that good in engineering, like UWA and so on, what I'm worried now is the living cost, as most of the university which is really famous in engineering like UNSW, NAtional U, Melbourne, Monash , Sydney are located in high living cost city

PM me your MSN pls.

Adelaide U seems quite good also.I almost choose that uni but rejected the offer because it's less well known compare to UNSW in Malaysia.

I never said that TER requirement justify employability directly. The reason why I mentioned TER requirement in my previous post was because most Australian universities set the score requirement at a point based on demand and supply. I believe in smart "consumers" in the market. Hence, high demand for a particular course leads to high TER score requirement.

Yes, I do know that most graduates get a job before graduating. I see that quite often. In fact, I know very few around me who is going to graduate but still has not gotten a job offer.

The TER requirement from University of Melbourne provided by you for local students only. When I applied ( year 2006), For INTERNATIONAL students,The minimum TER for Each Uni roughly as shown below:

University of Mel 85 (will be considered) 91 guaranteed

University of Sydney 92

University of Queensland 89

UNSW 85

UNSW was the lowest among these 4 universities.

The website that I put on about UNSW is for international students. And, although the TER requirement shown on melbourne uni website is stated for Australians VCE, the TER requirement will be the same for SAM students. So, UNSW being 88 and Unimelb 85, UNSW does not have the lowest TER requirement for engineering as per 2008 intake. I am not sure about the 2006 intake requirement because I applied for year 2005, UNSW had higher requirement for entrance than Uni melb and UQ.

since 1996 to 2001, but i'm not sure abt it now ..... Was under student exchange program from QUT to SUT;
TER low doesn't means they are poor ....
Like Melbourne U, Is hard to get in but easy to get out.

btw SUT SC faculty gradute rate only 70 % in year 1998 and before (cause most student quit study after Year Base learning )

and local U always provide best final year project. ( My is commenwealth Bank system and my friend is Sydney Olympic 2000).

*Cough*

Anyone still alive after the exams?

And just to be on topic, I think Adelaide U has the lowest TER cutoff for international students: 80%