That is so NOT TRUE! We aren't all stupid.

i see that spm 10a1 in your signature,

This post has been edited by KVReninem: Oct 23 2007, 07:44 AM

haya,

Top 5%?? You are aiming very low. Do you think our top 5% is good enough to compete with mainland Chinese and Indians?? You need to be a lot better than that. Remember, either countries has a population size that is 40 to 50 times larger than us.

Dreamer

Don't expect any change with a Rudd government either. The funding will go to school and TAFE's, not universities. Save for a few European countries, the days of free education are over.


Did I say, or even imply that? When I mean the top 5% (or probably less), I mean those who get a GPA of 6.5 and above generally. Most of us will be below that, and yet above 4. Does that make us stupid?

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Added on October 23, 2007, 7:49 amWhen I said top 5%, I meant top 5% of your cohort on whatever you're doing IN YOUR UNIVERSITY, NOT the top 5% of the population of China/India. Okay, maybe 5% is a bit optimistic, but it's not a statical fact. Don't quote me on that!

This post has been edited by haya: Oct 23 2007, 07:49 AM

Yea,i know tat, thats why studying in TAFE is better , at the end of the day you still get experience and paper, a paper that dont bring you further, but it is up to own preference.

we all contributed a significant amount to australian GDP...or else aussie economy wouldn't be so strong

from what i see is AUS gov is more efficient than ours here in Malaysia..
Really no hope for Politician in Malaysia jor

don't flatter yourselves...malaysians make a small portion of foreign students in oz, which account for about 10% of the total student enrollment......the "contribution" to the oz economy is minimal.....

the australian economy is strong now for two reasons.....the strong price for raw materials, which they have in abundance, and a well managed government, where corruption and leakages in the economy is kept to a minimum and the country's resources are wisely managed, to benefit the countryand the majority of the people.....

i mean international students, not just malaysian...we pay almost 10 times to what the local students are paying...isn't that alot?

Only about 4 times as much actually and that's under CSP (Commonwealth Supported Places, formerly HECS). It's government-funded (cough, international students), but well it's like a part scholarship for them, provided by their government. It is allocated on a competitive basis using TER/UAI scores.
There's another group of students, called Domestic Full Fee Paying. These are essentially those who failed to secure a place under CSP, so they have to pay the full amount for university upfront. These students will still benefit as they are often charged less than international students in government universities as unis have the discretion to set the fees. However, this DFFP programme is currently under a lot of controversy as they have allowed universities to take in a lot of students who have entrance scores way below the published cut-offs, especially in popular high-demand courses like Medicine, Law, Engineering and Commerce. It becomes an issue where university entry becomes the domain of the rich, as Go8 universities charge more than their counterparts. In other words, if you can afford it, you don't need the required the 99.95% to enter the most popular courses because the cut-offs usually represent those vying for CSP.

This post has been edited by chris_c28: Oct 23 2007, 08:27 PM

i think one has to look at the actual cost of conducting a course. if one assume that the international full fees is the actual cost, then the commonwealth supported places charges a third, and the domestic full fees places cost about 80%.........

so no, it is NOT 10 times.........

remember, the bulk of unis in oz are public ones, and not for profit, they just need to break even......so you can expect they will not profiteer from you.......even the few private ones like bond and notre dame are basically charity, not for profit unis........any surplus is ploughed back into the uni, and not taken away by shareholders.........

the same cannot be said about the many for-profit private colleges in malaysia.......

ah k...fair enough...but isn't it close to 10 times more?

off the top of my head, local students pay like 100 odd-dollars for 1 credit point...1 subject is usually 12 cp, so $1000++ for each subject...where as w.........

crap....where did my math go.....my bad

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Added on October 26, 2007, 11:00 amwhere did everyone go? is everyone busy prep'ing for exam?

This post has been edited by vintec: Oct 26 2007, 11:00 AM

Anyone from QUT queensland university of technology?? I'm going to Brisbane soon...PM PM

*raises hand*

And dont PM me.I will not respond.

lol~ I'm thinking of trying to get a scholar in postgraduate if my first degree is ok. well of course priority goes to local, there are racism anywhere in this world. no kidding. My sis was treated cold when she worked part time at a all-auzzy-and-1-chinese-which-is-my-sister pharmacy store. My sis was left to deal with the cashier, and not teaching her to deal with drugs. =.=

Finish your undergrad first, then think about doing a post-grad.

in what way is getting a temp parttimer to work the till, and not allowed to meddle with the drugs (dangerous) "racism"............?

is ur sis a socialisable person? afaik, if u are a socialisable person, ie comfy w/ western culture, speak comprehensible english (doesnt hav to be perfect), i can't see any problem blending in with them..that's my personal experience

went to reiji party last night as my plan to study for exam was fried when my HD dieded on me...it was soooooo boring =/

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Added on October 27, 2007, 11:54 amme! me! me! and there's quite a few of us from this thread are in brissy too

This post has been edited by vintec: Oct 27 2007, 11:54 AM

What does that have to do with racism?

umm...it's in the previous page...

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Added on October 27, 2007, 12:12 pmwow....the admins are quick! sensitive to the word racism

anyway, it's a good sign...keep up the good work, guys

This post has been edited by vintec: Oct 27 2007, 12:12 PM