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 Accident 101: i teach u claim loss of use

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remeron
post Oct 15 2018, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Oct 15 2018, 01:46 PM)
Have u report to ur insurance co? They will do everything for u.
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Ya I have reported. Should I tell them about the witness?
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post Oct 15 2018, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(remeron @ Oct 15 2018, 02:01 PM)
Ya I have reported. Should I tell them about the witness?
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why not. but actually u gonna lose your ncd no matter what. so no need to report also can. court going to favour him. or else who gonna paid for the hospital bill and his suffering.


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post Oct 16 2018, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Oct 15 2018, 03:42 PM)
why not. but actually u gonna lose your ncd no matter what. so no need to report also can. court going to favour him. or else who gonna paid for the hospital bill and his suffering.
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What if he had his cam working that shows the motorcyclist ran red light? Will he still lose his ncd?
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post Oct 16 2018, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 16 2018, 09:06 AM)
What if he had his cam working that shows the motorcyclist ran red light?  Will he still lose his ncd?
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Car vs moto

Motor got injury, doesnt matter if motor is party at fault, car ounya ncd will burn.

Coz somebody to protect someones life.
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post Oct 16 2018, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Oct 16 2018, 09:23 AM)
Car vs moto

Motor got injury, doesnt matter if motor is party at fault, car ounya ncd will burn.

Coz somebody to protect someones life.
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So unfair even if ure not at wrong.. Hope those mf accident and cripple for life for breaking the law.
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post Oct 16 2018, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Oct 16 2018, 10:14 AM)
So unfair even if ure not at wrong.. Hope those mf accident and cripple for life for breaking the law.
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I feel the same way too sad.gif
He ran red light and hit into us.

I doubt I can let this go if it goes to court and favor him. I feel his hurt for getting injured but I'm not gonna bend over.

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QUOTE(remeron @ Oct 16 2018, 11:10 AM)
I feel the same way too  sad.gif
He ran red light and hit into us.

I doubt I can let this go if it goes to court and favor him.  I feel his hurt for getting injured but I'm not gonna bend over.
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We have funny laws. If someone doesn't cherish their lives by doing things like this, they deserve it if accident happened.
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post Oct 22 2018, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Jul 16 2018, 12:08 AM)
Hi bro saigetsu, understood this thread is for claiming loss of use, but appreciate if you could share your experience on the below!  notworthy.gif

My car (20 year old saga) was hit by a motor (normal motorbike, 125cc type i think) from behind last weekend. Both of us have made police report. The motor rider stated his police report that he hit my car from behind, and he was fined. I wasn't fined. Keputusan report will only be ready in another week.

My car insurance is 3rd party (Tune Protect), while the motor's insurance is comprehensive (Allianz).

I'm planning to claim the motor's insurance and loss of use. I'll be repairing the car at a workshop that doesn't do insurance claims because need it to be repaired fast, thus will pay first and claim later. The repair cost is estimated to be RM 1000.

I need the loss adjuster report to claim the motor's insurance. My insurer and the motor's insurer say i need to get the report myself. A loss adjuster i contacted say the report will cost around RM 500 for damages below RM 5000.

Question:

1. The loss adjuster quote me around RM 500 for the loss adjuster report, the amount is reasonable?

2. The loss adjuster say the insurer will reimburse the fee for the adjuster report, on top of the repair cost for my car, is this true? Say the loss adjuster report cost RM 500 and repair cost is RM 1000, i'll get RM 1500?

2. Since I need to fork out RM 500 first for the loss adjuster report, would like to know how likely my claim on motor's comprehensive insurance would be successful ? I've asked a relative, he say very hard to claim motor insurance...

Thanks!
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finally got my claims, more than 3 months after accident, can cover 90% of the repair cost

so Third Party Property Damage claim against motor is possible!

This post has been edited by nasiayam: Oct 22 2018, 10:04 PM
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post Oct 23 2018, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Oct 22 2018, 10:03 PM)
finally got my claims, more than 3 months after accident, can cover 90% of the repair cost

so Third Party Property Damage claim against motor is possible!
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u r lucky guy coz he is not injured. if motorcycle injured gg lah.
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post Oct 23 2018, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Oct 23 2018, 08:50 AM)
u r lucky guy coz he is not injured. if motorcycle injured gg lah.
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he was injured but not serious, called ambulance for him, but not sure if he claimed my insurance since his was comprehensive

if he injured then i'll have issue in claiming his insurance?

This post has been edited by nasiayam: Oct 23 2018, 01:03 PM
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post Oct 23 2018, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Oct 23 2018, 01:01 PM)
he was injured but not serious, called ambulance for him, but not sure if he claimed my insurance since his was comprehensive

if he injured then i'll have issue in claiming his insurance?
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he didnt claim. coz u have successfully claims third party against him.
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post Oct 23 2018, 05:05 PM

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dear brothers and sisters!!!

if my car kena theft and then recovered after 2 months, could i claim loss of use for the said period?
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post Oct 25 2018, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Oct 1 2014, 09:59 AM)
Whenever people bang u.
1. u can claim OD kfk (own damage knock for knock)- preferable, ncd wont loose, faster, less hassle
2. u can claim third party against langsi - ncd wont loose, slower claims process, more hassle, u might getting less that what uve paid.

Y? im lazy to explain.

whenever your car at workshop for repair, u cannot use your car. but u can claim loss of use as u unable to use your car.

LOSS OF USE (LOU) claims a.k.a Compenssation assessed repair time (CART)

1. u can only claim from third party insurance. ask your agent.
2. For case no.1 above, after u make claim from your own insurance under ODKFK, u have to claim against 3rd party for LOU. a bit hassle
3. For case no.2 above, u claim one shot lah since u claim from third party anyway.

Scale of Compensation for Assessed Repair Time (CART)

Vehicle Type
Private Use Vehicles
Up to 1500 cc - RM 30
Above 1500 cc up to 2000 cc - RM 40
Above 2000 cc - RM 50

Motorcycles
Up to 250 cc - RM10
Above 250 cc - RM15

Terms and Conditions
1. The above scale defines the minimum amount payable by third party insurers for
CART claims where the claimant is unable to produce satisfactory documentary
evidence, receipts, etc. to support his/her claim for CART.

2. In cases where receipts can be produced for vehicle rentals, insurers shall pay
the amount shown in the original receipts
and original car rental agreement
subject to the principle of indemnity and subject always that the claimant shall
only be entitled to the rental of a vehicle of an equivalent nature to the damaged
vehicle. Such rental must be only from a rental agency/company duly registered
and licensed by the relevant authority.


3. The number of days for computation of CART shall be based on the independent
loss adjuster’s recommendation on the number of days for repair
of the damaged
vehicle subject to the insurers’ discretion to apply an additional seven working
days grace period for unforeseen delays.

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no.3 is the tricky part, coz adjuster u know lah...

sekian. Thank you
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Is this still legit?.. Coz i saw in insurans quotation, need to do some add.on for this (or i didnt understand correctly..)

btw i just read the first post
TSsaigetsu
post Oct 25 2018, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(azam_halim @ Oct 25 2018, 12:34 PM)
Is this still legit?.. Coz i saw in insurans quotation, need to do some add.on for this (or i didnt understand correctly..)

btw i just read the first post
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This is for when people bang u. The one that u need to buy is when u bang someone or salah sendiri.
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post Oct 29 2018, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(PuDing92 @ Oct 29 2018, 01:42 PM)
hi

my car was involved in a hit and run. already made police report and already received the report.

I have the car plate no in the report.

so how do I claim to the offender`s insurance ?

he/she did not make any report as checked by the traffic police.

so what should I do now ?
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go to jpj to find out his insurance company. then go to any workshop ask them if they do third party claim..
and they will assign lawyer to you. lawyer will tell you what to do next

which include go to pesuruh jaya sumpah to make statutory declaration that another car hit u. u wana claim against him
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post Oct 29 2018, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(PuDing92 @ Oct 29 2018, 02:19 PM)
for the lawyer and stuff, I don't need to pay anything right ?
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jpj u pay, statutory declaration u pay, police report u pay. keep receipt. and claim back from them via lawyer.


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post Nov 7 2018, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(#Victor @ Oct 15 2018, 12:12 PM)
The CART/day is depend on engine displacement of ur car and the number of days is subject to adjuster's discretion doh.gif
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adoi, just received offer letter....they only offer RM30 x 7days = RM210, instead of actual 14days which my car was in workshop.

I even include receipts of car rental (rm75 x 14days = rm1050) during LOU submission, why they only offer claim of RM210 so low?

now need to write letter to decline their offer n ask for more.

possible still got hope to fight to increase higher claim?
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post Nov 7 2018, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(geelim77 @ Nov 7 2018, 03:02 PM)
adoi, just received offer letter....they only offer RM30 x 7days = RM210, instead of actual 14days which my car was in workshop.

I even include receipts of car rental (rm75 x 14days = rm1050) during LOU submission, why they only offer claim of RM210 so low?

now need to write letter to decline their offer n ask for more.

possible still got hope to fight to increase higher claim?
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go fight for your right. say BNM say can. or else threaten to report to bnm

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post Nov 7 2018, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(saigetsu @ Nov 7 2018, 03:08 PM)
go fight for your right. say BNM say can. or else threaten to report to bnm
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can claim both CART and car rental?
OR only allow to claim either 1 only?
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QUOTE(geelim77 @ Nov 7 2018, 03:02 PM)
adoi, just received offer letter....they only offer RM30 x 7days = RM210, instead of actual 14days which my car was in workshop.

I even include receipts of car rental (rm75 x 14days = rm1050) during LOU submission, why they only offer claim of RM210 so low?

now need to write letter to decline their offer n ask for more.

possible still got hope to fight to increase higher claim?
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This is to get compensation for not having a car over the period your vehicle is under repair. The number of days for computation of CART shall be based on the independent loss adjuster’s recommendation on the number of days for repair of the damaged vehicle subject to the insurers’ discretion to apply an additional seven working days grace period for unforeseen delays.

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