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 Proton Iriz Club V1, Launched today 25/9/14

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post Dec 2 2014, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Dec 2 2014, 11:21 AM)
First and last proton.  brows.gif
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i'm patiently waiting for 1.6 MT saga3 whistling.gif

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post Dec 2 2014, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(newmaster @ Dec 2 2014, 11:24 AM)
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i'm patiently waiting for 1.6 MT  whistling.gif
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Good choice.
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Congrats bro!
Do u mind to share raytech tint a bit more including price?
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Raytech CS85 5 mil. 1.3k.
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post Dec 2 2014, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Dec 2 2014, 11:16 AM)
Punch CVT. The transmission company based in Belgium.  The lousiest part in the Proton car.
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thanks for the info

QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Dec 2 2014, 11:21 AM)
First and last proton.  brows.gif
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aisay ...coz now me using iswara since the year Y2K


QUOTE(newmaster @ Dec 2 2014, 11:24 AM)
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i'm patiently waiting for 1.6 MT saga3  whistling.gif
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going to permas to test drive ...wonder if they have the 1.3 MT

prefer manual a bit bit ...


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post Dec 2 2014, 03:07 PM

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1.3 cvt available for test drive edi?
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post Dec 2 2014, 04:15 PM

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It is normal for proton engine, everytime we lift off the throttle petal, the rpm will slightly rise by itself?

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post Dec 2 2014, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Assholer @ Dec 2 2014, 04:15 PM)
It is normal for proton engine, everytime we lift off the throttle petal, the rpm will slightly rise by itself?
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From ur statement, i bet ur is manual Iriz?? brows.gif

Is 'normal' for drive-by-wire Proton engine, due to the delay between pedal input and throttle output.

When u lift off the throttle pedal, due to the delay, the throttle body is still open, then u press clutch at this moment and the engine like suddenly become free load, so the RPM slightly rise.

Why I know? Becos this drive-by-wire 'delay feature' started since manual Saga BLM. whistling.gif Just surprise after 7 years they still remained this 'feature'. doh.gif

Try test another way round: In free gear N, press your throttle and observe the engine sound and RPM rise, you will notice your engine will only rev up 0.5s after u press throttle.

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but last time i try test drive iriz doesnt have this delay features anymore...quite smooth....
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QUOTE(ahucks @ Dec 2 2014, 05:19 PM)
but last time i try test drive iriz doesnt have this delay features anymore...quite smooth....
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Which variant u test drive? Manual or CVT? I bet u won't notice in CVT.
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post Dec 2 2014, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(megadisc @ Dec 2 2014, 01:48 PM)
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thanks for the info
aisay ...coz now me using iswara since the year Y2K
going to permas to test drive ...wonder if they have the 1.3 MT

prefer manual a bit bit ...
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Bakar batu should have. Last 2 weeks ago they said got 3 model to test drive.
1.3M
1.6CVT
1.6CVT Premium
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Dec 2 2014, 05:13 PM)
From ur statement, i bet ur is manual Iriz?? brows.gif

Is 'normal' for drive-by-wire Proton engine, due to the delay between pedal input and throttle output.

When u lift off the throttle pedal, due to the delay, the throttle body is still open, then u press clutch at this moment and the engine like suddenly become free load, so the RPM slightly rise.

Why I know? Becos this drive-by-wire 'delay feature' started since manual Saga BLM. whistling.gif Just surprise after 7 years they still remained this 'feature'. doh.gif

Try test another way round: In free gear N, press your throttle and observe the engine sound and RPM rise, you will notice your engine will only rev up 0.5s after u press throttle.
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I tried before, press the throttle, heard the engine noise first, half second later only see the rpm rise.
Maybe an aftermarket throttle controller to solve this issue?

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QUOTE(ahucks @ Dec 2 2014, 05:19 PM)
but last time i try test drive iriz doesnt have this delay features anymore...quite smooth....
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Test again, some said its been improve if compare to Saga. But i still found its unacceptable.
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post Dec 2 2014, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Assholer @ Dec 2 2014, 05:34 PM)
I tried before, press the throttle, heard the engine noise first, half second later only see the rpm rise.
Maybe an aftermarket throttle controller to solve this issue?
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Then this sounds more like tachometer delay rather than drive-by-wire delay. But from what u mentioned when u release throttle and rpm rise, is definitely drive-by-wire delay.

The engine noise is tally with ur throttle input? By right is instant and zero delay, I think u need to test on that again.

For my understanding, this delay is caused by calculation take place in ECU after pedal position sensed before it send signal to throttle, is related to ECU micro processor speed and software calculation algorithm, i don't think any aftermarket throttle controller can solve it.

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post Dec 2 2014, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Band-Pass filter @ Dec 2 2014, 07:43 AM)
the problem is with the wet clutch that they use. if they use usual torque converter no such thing will happen. if you live/work in KL this will be super annoying especially KL driver driving style.
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yup,its due to clutch,like u r driving manual box in 1st gear delay unlesa the clutch is fully open/release. not evidence if using torque converter.

it will be a pain transition to those familiar with torque conv type.

i think it needs not only tcu update,but ecu update also. since its using bosch motronic,totally new n diff from prev conti easyu 32bit controller(which already have its last update earlier this year to solve chocking prob due to cold start n reduce launch delay), i think it will take more time to calibrate it. dunno whether they will come out with it or not or it will be that apparent.

by the way, when u service ur iriz,ask them to check with padt n check whether ir tcu is using the latest firmware. if not,ask them to reflash it.

it only can be done at branch sc though.
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post Dec 2 2014, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(abrar_iiu @ Dec 2 2014, 05:28 PM)
Bakar batu should have. Last 2 weeks ago they said got 3 model to test drive.
1.3M
1.6CVT
1.6CVT Premium
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yeah u r right

front seat quite nice and snuggly

but pity the back people ...
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post Dec 2 2014, 07:25 PM

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i feel the delay worst if u r in neutral try to slot to D n press the throttle immidiately. if u already in D with footbrake,the delay is lesser,especially if u let it crawl 1st. hopefully prtn n punch will manage to solve it completely. but it seems hard due to clutch action. nevertheless,they shud try to solve it.

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Hey guys, where you all do your 1k service, oh ya will need to cover TCU/ECU reflash as well. Any recommended place?
I stay around puchong.
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post Dec 2 2014, 10:14 PM

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3429110

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3429004


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post Dec 2 2014, 10:54 PM

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can stop smiling reading the link.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Dec 2 2014, 10:54 PM)
can stop smiling reading the link.
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LOL ....cannot smile or cant smile ???

dun get u ... tongue.gif

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