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post Oct 1 2014, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 1 2014, 12:11 AM)
flying at sea is very diff... u have wave, up n down... u have wind... u have change in air density... u have storm
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They have training with soviet before on carrier landing

the one training them are veteran from then. Although, there a few copy from american style but carrier operation is pretty much a public information available online including the manual

QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 1 2014, 10:05 AM)
With the uncertainty of Malaysia MRCA Programme it looks like that the competing manufacturers are now focusing on the Indonesian Air Force F-5 Replacement. A decision is expected soon after the new president is sworn in.
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they are sure to buy unlike us want dont want like that. If me, even if i am the seller sure fed up with this types of customer.
anyway, it not always the armed forces fault is our leadership

the central government should refocus on updating our armed forces instead of ensuring their political survivability
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post Oct 1 2014, 11:27 AM

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A WZ-9 helicopter firing a HJ-8 missile.

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post Oct 1 2014, 11:51 AM

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very syiok reading on other countries' military procurement
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post Oct 1 2014, 12:20 PM

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Vietnam acquires unmanned Orbiter 2

By: Arie Egozi Tel Aviv
Source: Flightglobal.com
15:15 29 Sep 2014

Vietnam has acquired the Orbiter 2 unmanned air system (UAS) for use as an aerial forward observation asset for its artillery corps.

The Orbiter 2 is manufactured by Israel's Aeronautics Defense Systems, which says using a UAS instead of a ground-based forward observation officer will provide an improved "first round on target" capability for its customer.An Orbiter 2 flying at 2,000ft can supply artillery units with the co-ordinates of "a number" of targets, it adds.

Aeronautics sources say the Orbiter 2 is also now being offered by Rafael as part of deals that include the latter's Spike air-to-surface missiles, and by Israel Military Industries along with its surface-to-surface rockets.

An upgraded version of the Aeronautics aircraft is also available, with the Orbiter 2B capable of navigating independently to complete a mission, even if GPS is jammed or communication links lost. This variant also can carry payloads to assist with intelligence gathering.


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post Oct 1 2014, 12:23 PM

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Thailand orders two Mi-17V-5s

29 September 2014 - 16:53 by Alex Mladenov in Sofia

Thailand has ordered two Mi-17V-5 tactical transport helicopters at a price of about $40 million, according to details released on 29 September by Russia’s RIA Novosti news agency.


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post Oct 1 2014, 12:43 PM

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Thai Air Force selects Piaggio Avanti II for recon role

James Hardy, London - IHS Jane's Defence Industry
29 September 2014

The Royal Thai Air Force has signed a contract to buy a Piaggio P.180 Avanti II aircraft to fulfill a requirement for a photo reconnaissance aircraft, the Italian company announced on 30 September.

The P.180 Avanti II will be "customised for territorial multifunctional surveillance, featuring customised photography systems", a company statement said, without elaborating. The cost and delivery schedule were also not released.

Sold worldwide as an executive transport aircraft, the Avanti II has a range of 1,450 n miles, four-hour endurance, maximum speed of 402 kt, and maximum altitude of 41,000 ft, according to Piaggio.

According to IHS Jane's All The World's Aircraft , as of 2012 220 Avantis were in service, with 32 in special missions configuration, including 18 in emergency medical service configuration - three with Polish air rescue service and Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the rest with Italian customers - and nine for maritime surveillance.


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post Oct 1 2014, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 1 2014, 11:43 AM)
That is a very stylish unique airplane for a recce job.. In the past they operated some unique planes like the rfb fan trainer and broncos..

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post Oct 1 2014, 02:51 PM

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Indonesian Navy's KRI John Lie (358) & KRI Usman Harun (359) arrived in Indonesian waters and are being greeted by their sister ship KRI Bung Tomo (357) and an Ahmad Yani Class frigate.

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post Oct 1 2014, 03:17 PM

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Nigerian military buys Chinese-built MRAPs to combat Islamic insurgents

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A Nigerian soldier stands beside a CS/VP3 'Bigfoot' MRAP

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Model of the CS/VP3 MRAP from various viewing angles

In order to more effectively combat the Boko Haram militants in Nigeria, the military has purchased up to 30 Chinese-made CS/VP3 MRAPs, popularly known as 'Bigfoot'. Until recently the Nigerian military has had difficulties in combating the militants, mostly due to outdated military assets and questionable tactics. The current equipment, which feature many converted vehicles such as pickup trucks and commercial-grade transports have been proven vulnerable to the militant's ambushes and IED roadside bombs.

The Nigerian military, despite being one of the largest and well-funded military in Africa, with an annual budget of $3.7 Billion USD has recently been plagued with severe corruption and questionable defense procurements.

The purchase represents a major step in the increasing purchase of Chinese-made defense assets by African countries. In recent years Chinese defense firms have developed a good relationship with many African nations and have acquired sizeable amounts of defense contracts with these nations. These include the supply of small arms, artillery and armored vehicles.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 30 2014, 11:53 PM)
Tbh, I want the government and mkn sit down and rethink the whole shopping list and restratergist it.
Coming out a white paper and a proper planning is what we need the most now.
there is too many backlog in the procurement list and we are having a security issue at the same times.
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also i think Government should think back procurement with local tot/ip which just give cost procurement higher and higher. as results just give used up a lot procurement budget.i means not totally no tot/ip but just more reduce abit.

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Wrong post

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post Oct 1 2014, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 1 2014, 05:08 PM)
why thailand like to buy small unit of many different types and brand of military equipment???
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coz thai tak pandai perang...
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post Oct 2 2014, 08:39 AM

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PLA Navy introduces ASW version of the Jiangdao-class Type 056 corvette

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ASW version of the Type 056 corvette

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The stern area housing towing winch and ASW equipments

The PLA has introduced into active service a version of the Type 056 corvette which has been optimized for Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW). As of press time, 4 Type 056 ASW corvettes have been inducted into service (Numbers 593, 594, 598 and 599). The ASW corvettes, designated as Type 056A, has a specially built ASW detection suite integrated into the stern area, in which a retractable hatch & winch system houses a variable depth/ towed sonar array.

The Type 056A will retain the original Type 056's basic armament systems (76mm gun, two 30mm cannons, one 8-cell SAM launcher & two triple-barrel torpedo launcher) except for the two double C-803 Anti-ship missile launchers, which will be replaced with a light ASROC launcher system, probably a CY-1 or CY-2.

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CY-1 ASROC Missile

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post Oct 2 2014, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 2 2014, 01:05 AM)
I thot malaysia constitution or smth say when buying military equipment must have offset of at least 50%?? And even if we dont tot/ip damn high tech stuff like jet fighters /subs i think producing frigates/apcs ourself is a good long term plan bcos ensure malaysia wont be affected so much when shit hit the fan and nobody want to sell equipment to us
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too complex, not ready understand what u say...
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post Oct 2 2014, 11:27 AM

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Type 056 Corvette take first steps to international markets

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Following the successful performance of the Thai Navy's Pattani Class corvettes, which are effectively a Type 056 prototype system and the Type 056s already in PLA Navy service, the Chinese CSSC shipyards (ltd) have been awarded contracts from the Nigerian and Bangladeshi Navies for the order of 2 Type 056 corvettes respectively each for their navies.

The low cost of the useful 1300 Ton corvettes, purported to be about only $80-90 Million USD per basic unit has enticed other smaller nations to consider the Type 056 corvettes as a potential addition to their naval forces. These countries include Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Kazakhstan. The PLAN currently has 17 operational Type 056s in service out of the projected 45 first batch of ships that are scheduled to be in full service by 2020.

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post Oct 2 2014, 12:29 PM

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Kraison sets 10-year target to make navy best in Asean

Published: 2 Oct 2014 at 07.00
Newspaper section: News
Writer: Wassana Nanuam

Navy commander Adm Kraison Chansuwanit vowed to transform the Royal Thai Navy into one of Asean's leading military forces during his first day in office yesterday, saying it will take him 10 years to achieve his aim.

Adm Kraison succeeded Adm Narong Pipathanasai, who was appointed education minister following his retirement on Tuesday.

Adm Kraisorn also pledged to install an effective managerial system in the navy and ensure the military unit maintains the high standards set by Adm Narong.

His predecessor personally encouraged the improvements, said Adm Kraisorn.

Asked for his views on the navy's roles in politics, Adm Kraison said the force is a state agency and must follow policies set by the government.

It is a vital part of the state mechanism which maintains peace and order in the country, he added.

The new navy chief is among senior military officers to join the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO).

The NCPO will work alongside Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha's government.

Air force chief ACM Trithot Sonchaeng, also vowed to make the Royal Thai Air Force one of Asean's leading military powers during his inauguration ceremony at the Royal Thai Air Force Academy Wednesday.

He said he supported his predecessor ACM Prajin Juntong in his new role as the transport minister.

ACM Prajin is also a deputy chief of the NCPO.

The new air force chief said he was ready to support the politics of Gen Prayut and the NCPO.

ACM Prajin meanwhile praised the abilities of his successor.

He said he believed in ACM Trithot's capability and was confident the new chief would be able to further develop the air force.


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post Oct 2 2014, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 2 2014, 12:29 PM)
Thailand expand navy, Indonesia expand navy. Meanwhile Malaysia sit quietly in corner. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 2 2014, 12:34 PM)
Thailand expand navy, Indonesia expand navy. Meanwhile Malaysia sit quietly in corner. laugh.gif
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msia increase petrol..
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 2 2014, 08:39 AM)
PLA Navy introduces ASW version of the Jiangdao-class Type 056 corvette
The PLA has introduced into active service a version of the Type 056 corvette which has been optimized for Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW). As of press time, 4 Type 056 ASW corvettes have been inducted into service (Numbers 593, 594, 598 and 599). The ASW corvettes, designated as Type 056A, has a specially built ASW detection suite integrated into the stern area, in which a retractable hatch & winch system houses a variable depth/ towed sonar array.

The Type 056A will retain the original Type 056's basic armament systems (76mm gun, two 30mm cannons, one 8-cell SAM launcher & two triple-barrel torpedo launcher) except for the two double C-803 Anti-ship missile launchers, which will be replaced with a light ASROC launcher system, probably a CY-1 or CY-2.

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Not only type 056, 054A frigate also do the same think, also install ASW with TAS sonar, 054A VLS already include ASROC anti-submarine missile.

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post Oct 2 2014, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 2 2014, 01:10 PM)
Not only type 056, 054A frigate also do the same think, also install ASW with TAS sonar, 054A VLS already include ASROC anti-submarine missile.
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Probably different case, Type 054 Frigate is more like multi-purpose warship so of course la install ASW weapons. The basic Type 056 class is a small corvette for basic offshore patrol duties only, I think that limits any multi-purpose use (don't have the space for extra sensors, weapons & computers beyond the basic loadout),

So that's why they have to develop specialized Anti-Sub, Anti-Surface, Anti-Air and command versions of the corvettes with extra specialized electronics gear & weapons for each variant while sacrificing some other capability. For ASW version, they remove the Anti-ship missile launcher & replace with ASROC launcher, in Anti-air version they remove Anti-Ship missile launcher & install extra SAM launchers and in Anti-ship version they remove SAM launcher & install extra Anti-ship missiles. For command versions, they will remove most of the weapons systems to make way for better radar systems and command & communications gear. I think this is forced upon designers due to the small size of the ships.

Also because of these plans designers of Type 056 installed a 'plug & play' system, where the space and capability to install specialized electronics gear, radar systems and weapons for each specialized variant can be installed on a basic hull without major remodifications. So in production, the shipyards can produce a lot of modular blank hulls and at the fitting-out stage the user navy can choose what variant of Type 056 that they want for service,whether basic or specialized. That's why they can build 22 ships in 24 months, modularity is the key.

Also I heard rumors that PLA Navy already have plans to order a 2nd batch after the current batch of 43 ships is done. Seems like the PLA Navy brass just love this ship class!. laugh.gif

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