
CV-16 Liaoning sailing with her escort ships on training exercises. Behind Liaoning is a Yuzhao-class LPD, probably Kunlun Shan.
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Sep 30 2014, 09:33 AM
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![]() CV-16 Liaoning sailing with her escort ships on training exercises. Behind Liaoning is a Yuzhao-class LPD, probably Kunlun Shan. |
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Sep 30 2014, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE Indonesia inducts four KCR-40 missile craft Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International 28 September 2014 Four KCR-40-class anti-ship missile craft on order for the Indonesian Navy (Tentera Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut: TNI-AL) were commissioned in a ceremony presided over by Indonesian Defence Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro on 27 September. Mukti Syarif Rivai, a naval architect at PT Palindo, previously had told IHS Jane's that all four vessels had been launched into the waters of Tanjung Uncang, Batam, on 12 September. Rivai told IHS Jane's that the vessels are named KRI Surik (645), KRI Siwar (646), KRI Parang (647), and KRI Terapang (648). As per the TNI-AL naming convention for ships assigned to patrolling roles, all four boats have been named after traditional Indonesian weapons. source |
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Sep 30 2014, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE Indonesian Navy commissions oiler, 'leopard carrier' LST Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International 28 September 2014 Despite initial fears that it would miss an October 2014 commissioning deadline, a 120 m indigenously produced landing ship tank (LST) dubbed a 'leopard carrier' by the Indonesian Navy (Tentera Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL) was commissioned on 27 September. The vessel, named KRI Teluk Bintuni with pennant number 520, was inducted into the TNI-AL's Military Sea Lift Command (KOLINLAMIL) in a ceremony presided over by Indonesian Defence Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro at Bandar Lampung in southern Sumatra. The minister described the LST as an example of the country's commitment to the indigenous defence industry and revealed that a class of four vessels is expected by 2024. source |
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Sep 30 2014, 01:12 PM
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Royal Thailand Army tank exercise
9 September 2014 Tuesday http://thaidefense-news.blogspot.sg/2014/09/blog-post_9.html |
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Sep 30 2014, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 29 2014, 10:15 PM) Bizarre....Why is Chiangbai Shan LPD having ship-washing contest with TNI-AL corvette KRI Frans Kaisepo? It was KRI Sultan Hasanuddin to be correct. The pictures was taken during Multilateral Naval Exercise Komodo (MNEK) 2014 held from March to April this year.QUOTE The picture shows that the amphibious dock landing ship “Changbaishan” of the PLAN and the guided-missile frigate "Hasanuddin" of the Indonesian Navy hold the coordinated damage control drill. This post has been edited by azriel: Sep 30 2014, 03:49 PM |
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Sep 30 2014, 03:50 PM
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The Thai's digital camo pattern and colour selection looks very good.
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Sep 30 2014, 03:59 PM
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Sep 30 2014, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Sep 30 2014, 03:59 PM) Huh?Here's another shot from a diff angle Want a clue whether a pic of Liaoning is genuine or not? real pics of Liaoning won't carry airplanes. The air wing is still not integrated with the carrier and the carrier does not carry any aircrafts on sea voyages. Any pics/vids of aircraft launching or landing is made on a training-level basis near base,not operational and is done under controlled conditions. If you see a pic of Liaoning at sea with aircraft launching or on deck,high chance it's fake of PSed. This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Sep 30 2014, 04:26 PM |
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Sep 30 2014, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE Garuda Shield: Apaches take center stage in US-Indonesia exercise ![]() Indonesian and American helicopters churn up dust during the final live-fire assault that culminated the Garuda Shield exercise in Indonesia in September. The joint national assault included Apaches, Blackhawks and Strykers. Wyatt Olson/Stars and Stripes By Wyatt Olson Stars and Stripes Published: September 30, 2014 PUSLATPUR MARINE BASE, Indonesia — This year’s Garuda Shield exercise in Indonesia has included large doses of jungle-training tactics and integrating Stryker operations from two armies. But it was aviation — particularly four Apache attack helicopters shipped to the remote east end of the nation’s Java Island — that stood out in the monthlong training between U.S. and Indonesian army units. The exercise culminated with a combined-arms, live-fire assault on imaginary insurgents that included U.S. Apaches, Black Hawks and Strykers operating side-by-side with the Indonesian army’s Russian-made assault helicopters and its own version of Strykers. ![]() An Apache attack heliicopter fires a rocket during the final combined-arms live fire exercise of Garuda Shield in Indonesia, which winds up at the end of September. Wyatt Olson/Stars and Stripes Indonesia’s armed forces, known as TNI, next year will receive the first of eight Apaches, the newest Echo version of the aircraft, with the rest expected to be delivered by 2017. Some media have reported that Indonesia’s chief of staff plans to deploy four Apaches to the Natuna Islands in the South China Sea as a hedge against China’s increasingly assertive claims in those waters. The four Apaches brought here for Garuda Shield are being flown to the city of Surabaya for a massive military parade Oct. 7, which marks the 69th anniversary of the founding of the TNI. The event is somewhat of a last hurrah for outgoing president Prabowo Subianto, a former army general who lost in a close race to Joko Widodo — who has promised to increase defense spending in the country with the world’s largest Muslim population. Although the Indonesian aviators didn’t get to actually fly the Apaches, they did take the first steps in familiarizing themselves with the aircraft. “We started out in what we call a crawl-walk-run scenario, where we begin with the academics, something that we would consider as basic as familiarization on a medevac aircraft,” said Lt. Col. Hunter Marshall, commander of the 25th Aviation Regiment. “In terms of talking about the Apache, we’d do a classroom block, walk out to the flight line and get to see the aircraft. Then we’d work through planning, how to do missions together.” Marshall described the Indonesian flyers as “all highly proficient aviators,” adding that if the TNI chooses its Apache pilots for that pool, “they’d certainly have a great head start.” During air-assault planning, the Apache and its unique capabilities were always worked into the scenario, Marshall said. Chief Warrant Officer 2 Jesse Brenay Sr., one of the Apache pilots who flew in the final live-fire assault, worked side by side with the Indonesian aviators. The Apache’s new technology will require the Indonesian pilots to adjust their tactics and techniques, he said. “The way they fight will change,” Brenay said. “That’s kind of what we’re demonstrating, trying to train them up.” The communication systems in the Apache will also better integrate them with their ground forces. “So we’re teaching air-ground integration very heavily,” he said. “It’s kind of a new concept to them. It’s something we’ve done very well in the past 13 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, so we’re passing on lessons learned.” Apache integration is “a big reason we’re out here,” Brenay said. “It brings them up in status in this region because their neighbors are starting to upgrade to Apache fleets, and I think they want to keep up. It’s a huge plus for them.” Japan, South Korea and Singapore are among countries that have purchased Apaches from Boeing. Brenay described piloting the helicopters in Indonesia as “kind of culture shock to us” because they’ve primarily flown them in the high altitude of Fort Carson, Colo. “This is really the first time we’ve brought these Echoes down to sea level outside of Hawaii and run them through and see what they can do,” he said. “They’ve been pretty impressive.” Another Army pilot, Capt. Josh Brown, was enthusiastic about Indonesia buying Apaches, but of greater significance than those aircraft is U.S. and Indonesian forces learning to operate efficiently together, whether that’s in combat or for humanitarian/disaster relief. The coordination between the two armies, whether in the air or on the ground, demonstrates “how we’re going to do business in the future,” said Lt. Col. Michael Trotter, commander of 2nd Battalion, 1st Infantry Regiment, from Lewis-McChord, which contributed many of the elements at Garuda Shield. “We are not going to fight another war alone,” Trotter said. “We are going to have to be partnered, whether it’s for a combat operation or when requested by a host-nation government for assistance, whether humanitarian assistance or disaster relief. We can walk away from this exercise feeling very, very confident.” source This post has been edited by azriel: Sep 30 2014, 05:09 PM |
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Sep 30 2014, 06:34 PM
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K12 South Korean Light Machine Gun
By H.B. Hong | 12 September 2014 Friday http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=2751 |
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Sep 30 2014, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 30 2014, 04:18 PM) Huh? ah so you mean the carrier is not combat readyHere's another shot from a diff angle Want a clue whether a pic of Liaoning is genuine or not? real pics of Liaoning won't carry airplanes. The air wing is still not integrated with the carrier and the carrier does not carry any aircrafts on sea voyages. Any pics/vids of aircraft launching or landing is made on a training-level basis near base,not operational and is done under controlled conditions. If you see a pic of Liaoning at sea with aircraft launching or on deck,high chance it's fake of PSed. no jets so far still for show only This post has been edited by AxeFire: Sep 30 2014, 06:45 PM |
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Sep 30 2014, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Sep 30 2014, 06:44 PM) ah so you mean the carrier is not combat ready Training vessel. But china have long conducted land based carrier landing. So for the pilot thre no problem mostlyno jets so far still for show only If want go in full operation status, it can be done but not as efficient as the crew of other nations carrier fleet. |
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Sep 30 2014, 07:28 PM
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got plane on board Liaoning, it is just that they store it below top deck. Usually they dont really put everything on the top deck or hv any sortie when the aircraft carrier cruising close along with other ships. When reach operational area or training location, then the top deck will be active.
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Sep 30 2014, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 30 2014, 07:20 PM) I thot got one time 2 pilots dieded plus cannot full operation cos they only got 15 carrier based planes i think Despite all the hype, the Liaoning is mostly thought of as an introduction piece,where the PLAN takes its first step about carrier operation doctrine and applications. It's not exactly 100% for combat duties, more like a gateway equipment to familiarize the PLAN with carrier ships. The PLAN's aircraft carrier program may yet be in the future, not the present. But believe me, just look at present warship production, once when they got the carrier tech & doctrine right, expect the shipyards to start producing indigenous carriers at very quickly.QUOTE ![]() A Shenyang J-15 preparing for catapult launch. Note the shark emblem on rudder, also a nickname of the J-15 as 'Flying Shark'. |
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Sep 30 2014, 08:02 PM
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A PLAN (left)and a JMSDF (right) naval officer all chats & smiles (taken during RIMPAC 2014). A rare example, I may imagine.
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Sep 30 2014, 10:29 PM
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Thailand to buy 9 UH-72A Lakota Helicopters.
QUOTE Thailand – UH-72A Lakota Helicopters WASHINGTON, Sep 29, 2014 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Thailand for UH-72A Lakota Helicopters and associated equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an estimated cost of $89 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on September 26, 2014. The Government of Thailand has requested a possible sale of 9 UH-72A Lakota Helicopters, warranty, spare and repair parts, support equipment, communication equipment, publications and technical documentation, Aviation Mission Planning Station, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $89 million. This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States, by helping to improve the security of a major non-NATO ally. This proposed sale will contribute to Thailand’s goal of upgrading and modernizing its military forces with a new light utility helicopter capable of meeting requirements for rotary-wing transportation, while further enhancing interoperability between Thailand the U.S., and among other allies. Thailand will have no difficulty absorbing these helicopters into its armed forces. The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region. The principal contractor will be EADS North America in Herndon, Virginia. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale. Implementation of this proposed sale will require ten contractor representatives to travel to Thailand for a period of five weeks for equipment deprocessing/fielding and system checkout. There will be no adverse impact on the U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale. This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded. source This post has been edited by azriel: Sep 30 2014, 10:36 PM |
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Sep 30 2014, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 30 2014, 11:32 PM) Really wonder if mrca programme will be successful or end up like another one of those failed defence procurement Tbh, I want the government and mkn sit down and rethink the whole shopping list and restratergist it.Coming out a white paper and a proper planning is what we need the most now. there is too many backlog in the procurement list and we are having a security issue at the same times. |
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Oct 1 2014, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 30 2014, 06:52 PM) Training vessel. But china have long conducted land based carrier landing. So for the pilot thre no problem mostly flying at sea is very diff... u have wave, up n down... u have wind... u have change in air density... u have stormIf want go in full operation status, it can be done but not as efficient as the crew of other nations carrier fleet. |
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Oct 1 2014, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 30 2014, 07:39 PM) Despite all the hype, the Liaoning is mostly thought of as an introduction piece,where the PLAN takes its first step about carrier operation doctrine and applications. It's not exactly 100% for combat duties, more like a gateway equipment to familiarize the PLAN with carrier ships. The PLAN's aircraft carrier program may yet be in the future, not the present. But believe me, just look at present warship production, once when they got the carrier tech & doctrine right, expect the shipyards to start producing indigenous carriers at very quickly. Liaonning is more on training n rnd. Normal take off n landing no issued, more on improving overall effectiveness n efficiency.China is working hard on Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) in their future aircraft carriers. |
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Oct 1 2014, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 30 2014, 11:32 PM) Really wonder if mrca programme will be successful or end up like another one of those failed defence procurement With the uncertainty of Malaysia MRCA Programme it looks like that the competing manufacturers are now focusing on the Indonesian Air Force F-5 Replacement. A decision is expected soon after the new president is sworn in. |
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