Two surprise procurements for TNI-AD

Quad-Mistral platforms mounted on Komodo tactical vehicle


This is French version

Quad-Mistral platforms mounted on Komodo tactical vehicle

Our Lekiu-class frigates also not guaranteed can decently fight (on paper, Type 056 still have superior weapons, even as corvettes). Also considering we only have 2 in the whole RMN fleet and PLA navy probably have already deployed 10+ Type 056 ships in South China Sea right about now, chances are decidedly not so in our favor.

P.S.: Probably if they use the whole fleet of Type 056 only, PLA Navy can already overwhelm entire SEA nations' navy.

Sorry but that is not a Komodo vehicle but instead it is a Sherpa MPCV (Multi-Purposed Combat Vehicle) exactly the same vehicle that you posted as the French version.

The Mistral Missiles mounted on the Komodo vehicle is operated manually.

Looks like TNI will have 2 platforms of this kind of automatic AA Defense vehicle. The other one is the Starstreak Missile.

  I was sleepy last night, no mood to think it through. Posted this, minutes before went to bed

RI, South Korea to reach deal on phase II of KFX/IFX fighter jet

Yohanna Ririhena, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | World | Thu, October 02 2014, 9:41 PM

Indonesia and South Korea are expected to reach an agreement on the second phase of the joint development and production of the KFX/ IFX fighter jet, a step that will mark the epitome of the two countries’ strategic partnership, the South Korean envoy said.

The three phases of developing the KFX/IFX fighter jet are technology development (TD), engineering and manufacturing development (EMD) and joint production and marketing.

The TD phase was concluded in December 2012, which saw a number of engineers from state-owned airframer PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PT DI) and officers from the Indonesian Air Force going to South Korea to discuss a number of development issues with their South Korean counterparts.

South Korean Ambassador to Indonesia Cho Tai-young said that negotiations on the project had intensified, raising hopes that an agreement-in-principal would be reached soon.

“If the negotiation runs smoothly, it could be concluded by next month,” Cho said when asked the exact time for the agreement.

Cho, who assumed his post in July this year, noted that the two countries had developed a very close relationship in defense industry cooperation since the 1970s. Therefore, the jet fighter project marked the epitome of the Indonesian-South Korean strategic partnership as the two countries had committed to design and develop a whole new jet fighter.

“I will try hard during my term here to realize what has been planned,” Cho told The Jakarta Post during an interview ahead of South Korean’s Oct. 2 National Day.

The two countries signed a letter of intent (LoI) to develop the KFX/ IFX on March 9, 2009. The agreement was signed in 2012 by President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and his then South Korean counterpart Lee Myung-bak.

Indonesia will pay up to 20 percent of US$ 5 billion project, while the South Korean government and Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) will pay 60 percent and 20 percent respectively.

The KFX/IFX fighter is envisioned as a next-generation fighter aircraft for 2020, designed as a single-seat, twin-engine jet fighter with capabilities below the USmade Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, but surpassing Lockheed’s F-16 Fighting Falcon.

Beside the KFX/IFX project, the two countries will keep exchanging information about weapon systems and defense products to find future opportunities for cooperation.

Cho mentioned the Third Defense Industry Cooperation Committee meeting in Jakarta, when Indonesian and Korean defense companies presented their products and discussed future cooperation.

The South Korean government, Cho added, had a deeper understanding of the Indonesian policy on defense industry promotion.

This is the reason why Seoul would like to focus on transfer of technology and joint development programs like the KFX/IFX. After the completion of the KFX/IFX development, both countries may establish a joint venture. “There are a lot of possibilities,” he said.

South Korea has developed various weapon systems that are verified by the country’s armed forces. It has also imported weapons from advanced countries.

In this regard, South Korea could assist Indonesia on various issues, including sharing experiences in order to minimize trial-and-error with various weapon systems.

“I would like to say that the Republic of Korea is the best partner for Indonesia,” he said.

On the procurement of weapon systems, Cho said South Korea bought eight CN-235 medium transport airplanes made by PT DI for the South Korean Air Force. So far, there has been no plan to procure more from Indonesia.

“But we will continue the weaponry defense system cooperation,” he added.

The Korean Coast Guard has also received four CN-235 maritime patrol aircraft from PT DI.

On the building of three Chang Bogo-class submarines, Cho said, it would be conducted in South Korea and Indonesian technicians will go there for training.

Engineers from state-owned shipyard PT PAL Indonesia are being sent to South Korea to prepare for the building of the third submarine, which is planned to be done at PT PAL in Surabaya.

» RI, S. Korea are set to reach agreement to soon start the second phase of KFX/IFX jet fighter program

» Both countries are also involved in other programs, such as building three Chang Bogo-class submarines

Indonesian Navy inducts third PC-43 patrol vessel

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
01 October 2014

Indonesian defence minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro commissioned the Indonesian Navy's (Tentera Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut: TNI-AL's) third PC-43 patrol craft on 27 September.

The 250-tonne vessel has been named KRI Sidat (pennant number 851). The ship was constructed by Indonesian shipbuilder PT Citra Shipyard in Batam, as part of a contract awarded in 2012 to build two patrol boats for the TNI-AL's Eastern Fleet (KOARMATIM).

The PC-43 class design is derived from that of the KCR-40 missile craft. It is intended to undertake fast intercept missions to support counter-piracy, counter-smuggling, and illegal fishing operations. Vessels in the class are equipped with two 12.7 mm machine guns, one 30 mm naval gun, and one rigid hull inflatable boat.

When I did my research on the type 056, I noticed two distinct types of people commenting on the Type 056.

On the US STRONK! side, most criticized that the type 056 as an cheap, out-of-date, technologically inferior ship that would be sunk long before it even detected the presence of a US warship.

On the other side, more moderate commenters has stated that while the Type 056 is, in fact, a basic, cheap and technologically inferior ship in regards with US ships, it's exactly what is needed in a littoral combat role with its more 'grunt' type of work. As they say "you don't need a Ferrari to plow a rice field".

cons - 056 outdated radar 2D, no vls, FL-3000 to short range for defense against aircraft, less automation, event can attack by helicopter.

Pro - cheap cost, suitable for  'grunt' type of work, less complicated system. minimum defense capability.

if read chinese military forum/military website, most fans/commentator is blame PLAN on this ship bcos low "fire power" due clearly PLAN go for 'grunt' spec of work design.

Haha fanbois always la want the heaviest weapons systems in all warships, if possible destroyer-grade weapons also want to put into a small corvette.

In fact most modern corvettes are even less armed than the Type 056, some don't even have anti-air missiles, only CIWS. Some don't even have anti-ship missiles & have to rely on gun for any surface action. So considering its limited coastal patrol role, low cost and low tonnage, for me it's the weapons load is appropriate & adequate for the Type 056 to do its job. Contemporary corvettes like Dutch Sigma-class or German Braunschweig-class are quite similar to Type 056 in terms of weapons loadout (main gun, short range SAM, 2-4 anti-ship missiles, CIWS & torpedo launcher).

Also on the issue of Type 056 not having a hangar, since most the Type 056 is expected to operate in coastal areas near shore on short-time basis, there's less heavy bad ocean weather to worry about, seas are also calmer most of the time so keeping a helicopter tied down on the landing pad & covering with tarp when not on flight ops should still be OK, worse comes to worse if very bad weather is expected can always transfer the helicopter to nearby shore, no problem.

Also,where did you got the info that Type 056 has a 2D radar only? I can't find any references.

is that 24 vls

I srsly dont get how filipinos still think they can fight china after seeing this and considering their only modern ships are going to be their new 200 million frigates

basically go for heavy weapon or less weapon for cheaper cost.
Helicopter mostly use as send supply or personal or emergency rescue only in 056... basically no permanent heli for 056.
056 use type 364 search radar, also use in 071 PLD. 052C/D and 054A use as secondary radar in mask (use went main radar on offline/standby/service)
but u know right, many chinese military equipment no official detail, some just very basic，hardly get confirm spec.  your can try seach it.  it just confirm it is 2D radar and range estimate about 120~150km