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post Sep 22 2014, 04:09 PM

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I bet the gomen wont pay cash for this sea basing....the arrangement would be similar to bunga emas5 and bunga emas 6....those 2 ships were leased indefinitely for RM 1 per ship from MISC.....
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The gun recoil energy will be transferred to the baseplate and ground.

Instead of the gun recoil energy goes to the truck chassis and also for stability reasons like previous posters have mentioned.

HTH.

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Sep 22 2014, 02:16 PM)
why they must lift the rear wheels as well?
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post Sep 22 2014, 04:49 PM

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Hmm, lets see how things go in the futures.
mayb try to build a long range radar version.
J+S that was unexpected.
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post Sep 22 2014, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 22 2014, 04:49 PM)
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Yup their system quite nice.
I didn't not expect sgpv select their system.
btw which any news on the decoy system?
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 22 2014, 05:01 PM)
Yup their system quite nice.
I didn't not expect sgpv select their system.
btw which any news on the decoy system?
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What did u expected the choice was?

Couldn's find any news of the decoy system. Anyway, the funny thing is that this news of the torpedo launcher system was 6 days old and yet there was no news from local media or from the TLDM. Even the star reported in their 2013 article that Boustead kept the details as classified. And yet it was the manufacturer themselves that disclosed the torpedo launching system.

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Boustead Holdings awards torpedo launch contract to BHIC subsidiary

KUALA LUMPUR: Boustead Holdings Bhd has awarded a contract for the second generation patrol vessels/ littoral combat ships torpedo launching system to Boustead Heavy Industries Corporation Bhd’s subsidiary Contraves Advanced Devices Sdn Bhd.

Boustead Holdings said on Monday its subsidiary Boustead Naval Shipyard Sdn Bhd had issued a letter of award to Contraves for the project under the government defence programme.

“The letter of awards awards to CAD contracts to supply the torpedo launching system for the littoral combat ships programme. Other details are classified,” it said.

Boustead Holdings said the awarded works constituted a recurrent related party transaction for which a shareholder mandate was obtained at the company’s AGM on April 8, 2013.

“The awarded works are not expected to have a material impact on the earnings of the company for the financial year ending Dec 31, 2013, but will contribute positively to subsequent years’ earnings of Boustead Naval Shipyard as the tenure of the awarded works is long term in nature,” it said.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...HIC-subsidiary/


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TLS for LCS

Marhalim Abas September 22, 2014 Malaysia -RMN

SHAH ALAM: J+S Ltd, a UK based company announced several days ago that they had been awarded the contract to supply the Torpedo Launcher System for the RMN’s LCS project.

It must be noted that previously when the contract for the TLS was announced by Boustead it declined to specify the manufacturer saying it was classified. I assumed the decision to not name the supplier of the TLS was due to intense lobbying by the firms bidding for the project and not because we were getting a super, duper, torpedo system.

Well, now we know J+S will supply the TLS to Contraves Advanced Devices Sdn Bhd, the system integrator of the LCS. However, we are nowhere near to find out the actual torpedoes which will be carried by the ships.

The J+S website stated that “the J+S family of lightweight torpedo launchers are capable of deploying NATO compatible lightweight torpedoes and can be configured to launch the US Mk 44 and Mk 46 torpedoes, plus UK Sting Ray, A244S and compatible derivatives.

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An illustration of TLS and weapons handling system.

The compatible derivatives include the MU90, the lightweight torpedo chosen for other DCNS designed ships. In that sense, we can a buy a bunch of different torpedoes ( I am not sure whether this is wise though due to support and maintenance issues) and split them across the LCS fleet.

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The LCS image pictured in RMN webpage.

The full release:
Barnstaple, UK, 16th September 2014 – J+S Ltd is pleased to announce they have been successfully selected to supply the Torpedo Launcher System (TLS) for the new Royal Malaysian Navy Littoral Combat Ships being constructed by Boustead Naval Shipyard Sdn Bhd in Malaysia.

The substantial multi-million pound contract is to supply a Triple Tube Torpedo Launcher System with associated Weapons Handling and Storage equipment across each of the 6 platforms. The J+S Ltd TLS can be configured to launch a wide range of torpedoes and will provide a rapid reaction defence system against underwater threats. Delivery of the first system is scheduled for 2017 with the final system due for delivery in 2021.

Andy Toms, Managing Director of J+S Ltd, commented: “This major contract is a big step forward in our plans to establish Malaysia as a hub for business in the ASEAN market and we are looking forward to working in collaboration with Contraves Advanced Devices Sdn Bhd (CAD) to deliver a successful programme of work. We recognise the importance and benefits of Malaysian Industrial Participation and we have already engaged with a number of local companies for the supply and manufacture of goods and services relating to this contract. We have recently opened a J+S office in Kuala Lumpur and hope to build on existing relationships and forge new ones as we develop our business in the dynamic South East Asian market.”

Hat tip to DW for alerting me on the award of the TLS.


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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 22 2014, 07:00 PM)
What did u expected the choice was?

Couldn's find any news of the decoy system. Anyway, the funny thing is that this news of the torpedo launcher system was 6 days old and yet there was no news from local media or from the TLDM. Even the star reported in their 2013 article that Boustead kept the details as classified. And yet it was the manufacturer themselves that disclosed the torpedo launching system.
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Bae Mk32. biggrin.gif
Classified could due to it was negotiations stage. hmm.gif
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PLA Navy ship on inaugural port visit to Iran

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An Iranian family takes pictures of the visiting PLA destroyer Changchun

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Iranian Navy personnel greet Changchun commander Rear-Admiral Huang Xinjian (right)

The PLA Navy's Type 052C Destroyer Changchun made an unprecedented first port visit between the PRC and the Islamic republic of Iran on the port of Bandar Abbas, Iran. The ship is on a four day visit to foster closer ties between the PRC and the Islamic republic of Iran.

The Changchun, part of the PLA Navy's 17th Naval task Force is on its way back to its home port after conducting anti-piracy patrols in the Gulf of Aden since June 2014.

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Bolivian Army receives Chinese Z-9 Helicopters

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Bolivian Army Z-9 helicopters during the handover ceremony

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Chinese diplomatic representative Zhen Shiliang poses with Bolivian foreign minister Carlos Romero during the handover ceremony

The Bolivian Army have received its order of 6 Chinese-made Z-9 helicopters for medium-lift operations. The $104 million USD deal ,which includes pilot and technical crew training, a training simulator, accesories and spare parts represents a significant foray of Chinese military hardware into markets in the American continent. The Bolivian government is a consistent purchaser of Chinese military airplanes, with previous purchases including Xian MA60 transport planes and Hongdu K-8 Training/light attack airplanes.

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Bae Mk32. biggrin.gif
Classified could due to it was negotiations stage. hmm.gif
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hope torpedo is MU90 ...
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India uncertain about China's 'String of Pearls' strategy

Indian leaders express uncertainty on the long-term prospects of China's 'string of pearls' strategy as a threat to India's regional control of the Indian and Andaman oceans in the coming decades. While currently the PLA Navy is in no shape to maintain a permanent presence on the Indian ocean, recent expansion in numbers and capabilities of the latest state-of-the-art Chinese vessels, combined with the bases the Chinese have acquired around the Indian ocean have raised quiet worry over Chinese intentions in the area. While the Chinese have referred these bases and the sea routes they cover as a 'new maritime silk road', Indian leaders worry at the spectre of the Chinese Navy's apparent control of Indian ocean sea routes,especially the oil-transport routes from the middle east.

The utility of these overseas Chinese bases have been proven in recent years as the PLA Navy have increasingly utilized them successfully in its anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden. As a result of steady supplies and support from these bases, more PLA Navy vessels can be put out to sea for a longer time in these operations.

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 22 2014, 07:00 PM)
What did u expected the choice was?

Couldn's find any news of the decoy system. Anyway, the funny thing is that this news of the torpedo launcher system was 6 days old and yet there was no news from local media or from the TLDM. Even the star reported in their 2013 article that Boustead kept the details as classified. And yet it was the manufacturer themselves that disclosed the torpedo launching system.
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i guest our Gowind is choose Esterline SuperBarricade navy decoy systems

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 22 2014, 08:12 PM)
Bae Mk32. biggrin.gif
Classified could due to it was negotiations stage. hmm.gif
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or already decided without participations from other system supplier whistling.gif

in other words (closed tender) rolleyes.gif
If that they case, it not surprising
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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 23 2014, 12:18 AM)
or already decided without participations from other system supplier  whistling.gif

in other words (closed tender) rolleyes.gif
If that they case, it not surprising
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Well boustead reserve the rights of selecting the sub systems.
unless we do it on a seperately.
which I doubt it going to happen.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 23 2014, 12:22 AM)
Well boustead reserve the rights of selecting the sub systems.
unless we do it on a seperately.
which I doubt it going to happen.
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again what the army want not the army get scenario? whistling.gif
Oh well, typical malaysia style even it not what we want, we just have to adapt to its laugh.gif

anyway, on separate news

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Chinese news media too confirm the story

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On April 29 2014 Saudis publicly displayed IRBMs for the first time nearly 30 years.

Saudi Arabia purchased DF-21 ballistic missiles from China to defend Mecca and Medina, said Dr. Anwar Eshqi, a retired major general and advisor to the joint military council of Saudi Arabia, during a press conference.

"Saudi military did indeed receive DF-21 missiles from China and the integration of the missiles, including a full maintenance check and upgraded facilities, is complete," said Eshqi as cited in the state-run newspaper OKAZ. In addition to defending two holy cities of Islam, the DF-21 will also be used to form a protective umbrella to defend Saudi Arbia's allies over the Persian Gulf, he added, indicating that the missiles are not for offensive attacks.

The missile has a range of between 1000-1700 miles, and is believed to have a top speed of around Mach 5. Saudi Arbia signed contract with China to purchase DF-21s back in 2007, but neither side admitted to the deal, according to a US-based Newsweek report. Saudi Arabia is probably buying and announcing the purchase as a message to deter Iran.

The United States approved the sale of DF-21s to Saudi Arabia as long as they are not nuclear-capable variants of the missile, said the Newsweek report. Eshqi did state that the purchased DF-21s, however, can be equipped with a nuclear warhead. The decision made by the Saudi Arbian government to purchase Chinese instead of American missile systems shows that Riyadh is being pushed further away from Washington by its international policy towards towards Iran and Syria.


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Maybe we should get as well, although ASEAN set as nuclear free zone, the non-nuke version should be ok right? laugh.gif
Tembak from Kelantan to sabah if sulu come invade again laugh.gif laugh.gif
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so we can just get those rockets and instead of nuke just pack C4/Gunpowder whatever the explosive is called

good idea
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Sep 23 2014, 12:38 AM)
so we can just get those rockets and instead of nuke just pack C4/Gunpowder whatever the explosive is called

good idea
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2500kg of high explosive is not much. Roughly two mark 84 dumb bomb

It just oversize cruise missile without it nuclear warhead and an inaccurate one at best laugh.gif
Fear yes, practicability without it nuclear warhead, i dont see the point, must easier to fix a paveway kit onto the mark84 and deliver it. Cheaper sumore

Just for fun idea rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 23 2014, 12:50 AM)
2500kg of high explosive is not much. Roughly two mark 84 dumb bomb

It just oversize cruise missile without it nuclear warhead and an inaccurate one at best  laugh.gif
Fear yes, practicability without it nuclear warhead, i dont see the point, must easier to fix a paveway kit onto the mark84 and deliver it. Cheaper sumore

Just for fun idea  rolleyes.gif
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cruise missile? ballistic ler... i think it is supported by prc's guiding, positioning via satellite system

saudi use it against shia iran? hmm.gif

terminal not mach 10?

i think the kinetic energy does matter too..
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PLA new long-range ATGM gets a closer look

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HJ-10 launch unit vehicle

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HJ-10 launch

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HJ-10 missile in flight
Pictures of vehicle units for the PLA's new long-range ATGM, the HJ-10 have surfaced. The missiles, apparently placed in a double quad-launcher configuration is mounted on a ZBD-2000 IFV unit.

The HongJian-10 (Red Arrow-10) is a heavy long-range ATGM guided by NCLOS technology. The all-weather IR/thermal camera is located on the nose of the missile and signals are transmitted from the missile,via a fibre-optic cable to the launch command unit. The gunner, is, in effect able to see what the missile sees and guide the missile onto its target by literally 'driving' the missile. This ability, plus the fact that the missile has an effective range of 10 kilometers makes it possible for the missile unit to 'snipe' at a distant target without the target ever realizing it's being targeted.

The missile also has a secondary fire-and-forget seeker mode that is being mulled for use as an Anti-helicopter missile system although it is still capable of locking on to a tank (similar to the US javelin system). Due to this mode dispensing with the fibre-optic guidance system and the missile being locked-on and guided to its target autonomously, this fire-and-forget seeker mode has an effective range of about 5 kilometers (although the missile itself can still reach 10 kilometers)

The HJ-10 missile carries a heavy tandem HEAT warhead that is designed to defeat the latest tank armor technologies.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 23 2014, 12:50 AM)
2500kg of high explosive is not much. Roughly two mark 84 dumb bomb

It just oversize cruise missile without it nuclear warhead and an inaccurate one at best  laugh.gif
Fear yes, practicability without it nuclear warhead, i dont see the point, must easier to fix a paveway kit onto the mark84 and deliver it. Cheaper sumore

Just for fun idea  rolleyes.gif
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Use fae warhead.

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