QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 8 2014, 07:27 PM)
Canot fit into type 52 ldp... have to transport by transporter
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Oct 8 2014, 07:52 PM
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Oct 8 2014, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 8 2014, 07:52 PM) The Zubr was never designed for long-range operations in the first place. The Soviets designed the Zubr for operations in the small Baltic sea. They were designed so if hostilities with NATO commenced, they were supposed to be used to land Marine forces on key coastal positions in countries like Sweden, Northern Germany and Denmark.In the context of the PLA Navy, the Zubr would be perfect for lightning operations to capture outposts in the Spratlys and Paracels islands that not suitable to large ships due to the shallow seas near the archipelago. Also could be used to carry the most urgent cargo or supplies that just can't wait for slow ship journeys and to deliver them directly to the landing beach for the amphibious force. These are sea-going hovercrafts, so crossing the South china Sea from Hainan or Southern China should be no problem. |
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Oct 8 2014, 09:23 PM
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Close view of PLA Navy's Zubr Heavy Hovercraft
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Oct 8 2014, 09:53 PM
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PLA Navy to buy Zubr Heavy Hovercrafts from Greek Navy
![]() The Greek Zubr hovercraft L-183 Zakynthos Greek Navy spokesman has confirmed the question that China is set to buy Greek Navy Zubr Hovercrafts. Greece, struggling with economic slowdown is forced to sell many military assets to foreign forces. Although Greece is a NATO member state, the sale will not violate the existing arms embargo against China, due to the hovercraft was made in Russia and Ukraine, not Greece and will thereby not subject to the terms of the arms embargo. The Greek Navy operate four Zubr hovercrafts, bought in 2001. The first Zubr hovercraft (number L183, the Zakynthos) is set to be transferred to China in late 2014. News Link: China to get former Greek Zubr heavy hovercrafts |
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Oct 8 2014, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 8 2014, 09:05 PM) The Zubr was never designed for long-range operations in the first place. The Soviets designed the Zubr for operations in the small Baltic sea. They were designed so if hostilities with NATO commenced, they were supposed to be used to land Marine forces on key coastal positions in countries like Sweden, Northern Germany and Denmark. yup it was nvr designed for ldp because it was before the russian have the ldp for transportation In the context of the PLA Navy, the Zubr would be perfect for lightning operations to capture outposts in the Spratlys and Paracels islands that not suitable to large ships due to the shallow seas near the archipelago. Also could be used to carry the most urgent cargo or supplies that just can't wait for slow ship journeys and to deliver them directly to the landing beach for the amphibious force. These are sea-going hovercrafts, so crossing the South china Sea from Hainan or Southern China should be no problem. Unlike the US which designed the LCAC then get all existing ldp to fit it in Zubr under PLA is preparation for taiwan and japan |
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Oct 8 2014, 10:01 PM
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Oct 8 2014, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 8 2014, 10:00 PM) yup it was nvr designed for ldp because it was before the russian have the ldp for transportation Not worryUnlike the US which designed the LCAC then get all existing ldp to fit it in Zubr under PLA is preparation for taiwan and japan chinese own type LCAC long time in service with Type 071 LPD.... at lease 3 year before get Zubr ....... ![]() ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 8 2014, 10:53 PM |
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Oct 8 2014, 10:53 PM
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Oct 8 2014, 10:55 PM
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Oct 8 2014, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 8 2014, 10:53 PM) more resembles to korea lcac than US one...anyway if RMN buy Type 071, i think RMN will not include LCAC, actually LCAC price is expensive and cost operation a bit high too。 This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 8 2014, 11:10 PM |
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Oct 8 2014, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 8 2014, 11:09 PM) more resembles to korea lcac than US one... korean are based on USanyway if RMN buy Type 071, i think RMN will not include LCAC, actually LCAC price is expensive and cost operation a bit high too。 depends on which country malaysia would like. US normally includes LCAC in the deal, korean also include most likely china not sure, very little on china foreign sales information |
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Oct 8 2014, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 8 2014, 11:33 PM) Anywayss almost impossible for us to buy china stuffs, who the hell buys equipment from a country youre having a dispute with, even if youre not to jeopardise relations of all the country in asean, we have the best relationship with themso it not surprising we might get a type 71 that is why malaysia and china have not publicly criticized each other on repetitive claim even though both sides are quietly arming out their teeth just in case, just in case if china were seriously put threat to the claim, the country that have the most benefit would like be malaysia. Anyway, we are also energy supplier to china, so it does not really matter since the resources is coming into china hand as well |
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Oct 9 2014, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 8 2014, 11:33 PM) Anywayss almost impossible for us to buy china stuffs, who the hell buys equipment from a country youre having a dispute with, even if youre not to jeopardise relations that is old mind set ....new trend is you sell weapon to country having dispute, than u know there ability and weapon, so for you easy take it down, went your dispute country use other country weapon, you not sure how good there weapon (maybe just know spec only) ..... This post has been edited by waja2000: Oct 9 2014, 12:11 AM |
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Oct 9 2014, 12:26 AM
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Oct 9 2014, 12:41 AM
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How come China can copy other people's military tech in such a short period, can Malaysia also do the same? Will it be more cost-effective.
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Oct 9 2014, 12:45 AM
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Oct 9 2014, 12:52 AM
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Oct 9 2014, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(red streak @ Oct 9 2014, 12:45 AM) QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Oct 9 2014, 12:52 AM) erm..ok. Then do you think it is viable for Malaysia to build own military things like Indonesia? Well, hopefully in future, China will sell their weapons and so on cheap cheap to us. |
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Oct 9 2014, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Oct 9 2014, 01:00 AM) erm..ok. Then do you think it is viable for Malaysia to build own military things like Indonesia? as u can observe, we have our own local defense industry..but very2 few..Well, hopefully in future, China will sell their weapons and so on cheap cheap to us. we have build AV-8, Taming Sari guided-munition, VB Berapi, Handalan trucks, and few mores.. so yes, we can build our own things as we have sufficient resource and tech to do like what Indo does (small boats, armored vehicles, rifles, etc) but we're still far away from building our own tanks, jets, submarines, radars, avionics and other high-tech/sophisticated military hardware tho.. ..Indo have gone so far to joint-develop KIFX stealth jet China has offered us some deals in previous years (i read in some Perajurit and Tempur Magazines) which i say were pretty cool deal for the price and tech maybe Mindef still didn't trust the capabilities of PRC's hardwares |
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Oct 9 2014, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Oct 9 2014, 01:16 AM) as u can observe, we have our own local defense industry..but very2 few.. I see. Yeah I realizes we lack quite behind from the Indonesia. So in the meantime, there are no plan to Improve our military industry?we have build AV-8, Taming Sari guided-munition, VB Berapi, Handalan trucks, and few mores.. so yes, we can build our own things as we have sufficient resource and tech to do like what Indo does (small boats, armored vehicles, rifles, etc) but we're still far away from building our own tanks, jets, submarines, radars, avionics and other high-tech/sophisticated military hardware tho.. ..Indo have gone so far to joint-develop KIFX stealth jet China has offered us some deals in previous years (i read in some Perajurit and Tempur Magazines) which i say were pretty cool deal for the price and tech maybe Mindef still didn't trust the capabilities of PRC's hardwares This post has been edited by MasBoleh!: Oct 9 2014, 01:26 AM |
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