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 Car Care and Detailing [V4], Caring for your car apprearance

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post Dec 30 2015, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Dec 29 2015, 05:38 PM)
Sure you can. It just takes a bit of muscle, that's all.

It's a good workout for you young folks, me I'm an ageing uncle I'd rather use a machine. The other advantage of doing it by hand is, there is less risk of of going overboard and damaging the paintwork. The advantage of using a rotary buffer is... I'VE GOT DA POWER (cue song)..!!

TW Color Cure Plus is a discontinued product from early 2000 I think, you'll find old stock lying around here and there at Ace Hardware and that rip-off place called Eneos. I know I used to use it on my GSXR400 that I rode at the Batu 3 circuit... that was back when people knew there was an international racetrack in the middle of Shah Alam. It's basically synthetic wax with coloring in it, plus a rather useless Chip Stick that you used to fill in the deep scratches if you're too lazy to do a proper job of wet sanding and polishing them out. I just want the colored synthetic wax to make the black paintwork pop out before I seal it.

These days it has been replaced by Turtle Wax's Black Box kit, which is bloody farking expensive at RM120+. Me, I'm trying to keep the cost of my restoration project at around RM300 so glorified crap like that are off my list.
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Then I will take your words to start with TW polishing compound. But then, after this can direct apply wax & follow sealant? what brand of wax & sealant in your list now?
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post Dec 30 2015, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(eprince @ Dec 30 2015, 04:26 PM)
Then I will take your words to start with TW polishing compound. But then, after this can direct apply wax & follow sealant? what brand of wax & sealant in your list now?
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Turtle Wax Color Cure Plus Black is color enhanced synthetic wax, plus a useless Chip Stick. I think around RM40 if I'm not mistaken at Ace Hardware near my house. The first time I bought it was at Jusco many years ago.

Turtle Wax Platinum Ultra Gloss is the sealant I will use. RM50.

Other costs: Turtle Wax Renew RX Polishing Compound RM20, a second hand rotary buffer with foam pads RM100, plus a few bucks for new microfibre cloths... I think should be able to keep to my RM300 budget for this restoration project. Save the rest of my cash for ICE in March... LOL...

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post Dec 30 2015, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Dec 30 2015, 03:42 PM)
.... Save the rest of my cash for ICE in March... LOL...
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I hope the 'ICE' you mentioned has got something to do with either diamonds or entertainment system cuz the liquid type is a total waste of money and the paste is OVERLY over-priced for it's quality.... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Dec 30 2015, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Dec 30 2015, 08:01 PM)
I hope the 'ICE' you mentioned has got something to do with either diamonds or entertainment system cuz the liquid type is a total waste of money and the paste is OVERLY over-priced for it's quality.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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LOL... yeah, ICE as in an HU, a d-class amp, a sub & component speakers.
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post Dec 30 2015, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Dec 30 2015, 03:42 PM)
Turtle Wax Color Cure Plus Black is color enhanced synthetic wax, plus a useless Chip Stick. I think around RM40 if I'm not mistaken at Ace Hardware near my house. The first time I bought it was at Jusco many years ago.

Turtle Wax Platinum Ultra Gloss is the sealant I will use. RM50.

Other costs: Turtle Wax Renew RX Polishing Compound RM20, a second hand rotary buffer with foam pads RM100, plus a few bucks for new microfibre cloths... I think should be able to keep to my RM300 budget for this restoration project. Save the rest of my cash for ICE in March... LOL...
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Just incase cant get TW color cure plus, any wax else can recommend?

sound that this budgetary project good as starter for me before go higher line product...
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post Dec 30 2015, 05:19 PM

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Bought this 3.5" handle with applicator pad. Can I use this with hand to remove minor swirls on my soon to be 3 months car?
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post Dec 30 2015, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(AEP5001 @ Dec 30 2015, 11:13 AM)
what sort of car emblem glue / double sided sticker is recommended? where can i buy it?
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3M double sided tape.

try ace hardware or http://www.autogeek.net/3m-auto-tape.html
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post Dec 30 2015, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(eprince @ Dec 30 2015, 04:25 PM)
Just incase cant get TW color cure plus, any wax else can recommend?

sound that this budgetary project good as starter for me before go higher line product...
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Give Osren's Synergized Wax a try

http://wetshine.net/2013/04/06/initial-imp...synergized-wax/
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post Dec 30 2015, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(eprince @ Dec 30 2015, 08:25 PM)
Just incase cant get TW color cure plus, any wax else can recommend?

sound that this budgetary project good as starter for me before go higher line product...
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Well you don't have to use everything I use. Maybe the other guys here can recommend different waxes.

Me, I prefer to stick to synthetic stuff. I'm too much of a cheapskate to cough up for premium pure carnauba stuff - there is just no point trying to keep a concours-level finish on a humble daily transport.

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post Dec 30 2015, 10:02 PM

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Just a question, if waxing by hand, does circular motion or straight line motion matter? Which gives better result? Viewing guide from auto geek and what they do is in straight line motion.
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post Dec 30 2015, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(frozen7 @ Dec 30 2015, 11:02 PM)
Just a question, if waxing by hand, does circular motion or straight line motion matter? Which gives better result? Viewing guide from auto geek and what they do is in straight line motion.
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I think in mike philips ( autogeek) video he said that he did in straight line is following the direction of the wind hitting the panel. but i think either way will do laugh.gif
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post Dec 30 2015, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(chew3344 @ Dec 30 2015, 10:18 PM)
I think in mike philips ( autogeek) video he said that he did in straight line is following the direction of the wind hitting the panel. but i think either way will do  laugh.gif
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Haha.. if either way will do.. I rather to do it in straight line motion, i found it easier.. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 31 2015, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Dec 30 2015, 06:04 PM)
Well you don't have to use everything I use. Maybe the other guys here can recommend different waxes.

Me, I prefer to stick to synthetic stuff. I'm too much of a cheapskate to cough up for premium pure carnauba stuff - there is just no point trying to keep a concours-level finish on a humble daily transport.
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Totally agree with you...so my plan was to reduce as much as defects as I can and get some wax to cover it out for daily use car....at least there are some good looking for half yr car instead of look like 5yr car.... rclxms.gif
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post Dec 31 2015, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(frozen7 @ Dec 30 2015, 10:02 PM)
Just a question, if waxing by hand, does circular motion or straight line motion matter? Which gives better result? Viewing guide from auto geek and what they do is in straight line motion.
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If not done properly, stop-go (straight line) motion would leave access (thicker) layer at the point where you change (reverse) direction. Some waxes *could* be difficult to buff if applied too thick. Circular motion is continuous, less chance for it to happen. I prefer circular motion for wax/sealant application and straight line motion for spot polishing/compounding.
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post Dec 31 2015, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(frozen7 @ Dec 31 2015, 02:02 AM)
Just a question, if waxing by hand, does circular motion or straight line motion matter? Which gives better result? Viewing guide from auto geek and what they do is in straight line motion.
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Ahhh.... always remember what the sifu says:

How to Wax
Zack Styler
post Dec 31 2015, 04:31 PM

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I just got a used alza which is white in colour, but it seems its very hard to keep the car clean..

Seems its so easily to get dirty and there are still dark stains and marks all over the car after washing it, and the only way to remove those stains is to use the polishing compound..

Is there anything wrong with my method?

1. Wash car with shampoo, after wash still got dark stain and marks
2. Polish away the stains and marks with car polish
3. Car will became dirty again in few days, especially if it rains.. doh.gif


I am thinking is there any particular brand of car care products that can clean those dark stains and marks without having to polish it off after wash everytime?

Thanks
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post Dec 31 2015, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Zack Styler @ Dec 31 2015, 04:31 PM)
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Polish will remove the stain but it won't protect it from staining again. You'd need to put on a layer of 'protection' after polishing - wax or sealants. Just a note: I use the term 'protect' very loosely. By protection I mean the wax/sealant would provide a 'temporary' sacrificial layer of protection against stain/contaminant/etc. sticking to the paint....like putting foundations on the face before putting on make-up so that you can easily wash it off...I know...I know...not a great analogy but...err...you get the point..... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Dec 31 2015, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Dec 31 2015, 04:41 PM)
Polish will remove the stain but it won't protect it from staining again. You'd need to put on a layer of 'protection' after polishing - wax or sealants. Just a note: I use the term 'protect' very loosely. By protection I mean the wax/sealant would provide a 'temporary' sacrificial layer of protection against stain/contaminant/etc. sticking to the paint....like putting foundations on the face before putting on make-up so that you can easily wash it off...I know...I know...not a great analogy but...err...you get the point..... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Well I got your point..Any good recommendation for good polishing and wax?

I think I am polishing the car every weekends and I think its a bit over.. sweat.gif
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post Dec 31 2015, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(Zack Styler @ Dec 31 2015, 05:45 PM)
Well I got your point..Any good recommendation for good polishing and wax?

I think I am polishing the car every weekends and I think its a bit over.. sweat.gif
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the dark stain can be removed easily with cleaner wax/ paint cleaner biggrin.gif last time i use soft 99 meta clean but now switch to meg cleaner wax then coat with LSP of your choice biggrin.gif
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post Dec 31 2015, 10:48 PM

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Anyone got experience with Pit Stop Car Saloon?
I'm too old to do proper wax-on wax-off so going to send to someone to do it.
They have some offer in groupon and claimed that they used meguairs for all their works.

And Happy New Year everyone.

cheers

This post has been edited by rainbow6: Dec 31 2015, 10:49 PM

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