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post Oct 4 2014, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(asunakirito @ Aug 25 2014, 12:50 AM)
Budget around 200-350 for active studio speakers (with knobs for controlling volume, treble and bass).
Currently one of my passive speaker loses sound, so looking for a brand new one.

If there are better ones which just needs to increase my budget slightly, please share.  smile.gif
I find it strange there are little brands locally, mostly Edifier.
Are there other brands bought locally? (e.g. polk audio,klipsch)
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That's simple to explain that why there is so little brand for 2.0 active speaker:
- probably you are shopping around computer shop
- computer don't sell professional active 2.0 speakers
- normal people don't spend much to get these speakers, if they do, they don't go to computer shop and find it
- audiophiles will prefer normal 2.0 setup where they can mix and match around the amp and speaker
- 2.0 active speaker caters more to people in music industry, maybe you should ask in music related forum? smile.gif

QUOTE(asunakirito @ Aug 25 2014, 07:49 PM)
Which Edifier model speaker you sold off? Is it  Edifier R2700 or Edifier R1600T III?
I'm not a bass-head person, so same boat as you smile.gif
Mine is more for listening to music, watching video/movie and for video editing (mixing music)
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Nothing beats a good headphone in music mixing. Watching movie with 2.0 speaker is ok but I prefer with a sub like Creative T3 (not sure if this model is still selling on the market). 2.0 active speaker is just for easy setup for music listening.

QUOTE(Pewufod @ Aug 26 2014, 10:17 PM)
anyone has experience with thonet and vander ?
looking at their gut speaker
im also on the market for a 2.0 speaker around rm400 ish
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I had heard their Kugel model in KLIAV 2013, I think that's quite nice for those people who came from pc multimedia speakers. Though it looks like Edifier but selling at a higher price. But if you can afford it, definitely it will be a wise choice.
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post Oct 4 2014, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Oct 4 2014, 07:47 AM)
That's simple to explain that why there is so little brand for 2.0 active speaker:
- probably you are shopping around computer shop
- computer don't sell professional active 2.0 speakers
- normal people don't spend much to get these speakers, if they do, they don't go to computer shop and find it
- audiophiles will prefer normal 2.0 setup where they can mix and match around the amp and speaker
- 2.0 active speaker caters more to people in music industry, maybe you should ask in music related forum? smile.gif
Not true anymore nowadays, because Edifier changed that... tongue.gif

QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Oct 4 2014, 07:47 AM)
Nothing beats a good headphone in music mixing. Watching movie with 2.0 speaker is ok but I prefer with a sub like Creative T3 (not sure if this model is still selling on the market). 2.0 active speaker is just for easy setup for music listening.
Mixing with headphones is a very bad idea. That's because headphones do not have any flat frequency spectrum (tend to accentuate the sound, either bassy and/or too sharp). And it is this overall flat frequency spectrum that the reason studio monitors exist. And for speakers to qualify as studio grade monitors is not easy as they have to be of HiFi quality besides having a flat audio profile. As for Creative GigaWorks T3, has great bass but the clarity especially at the upper frequencies are simply very lacking... wink.gif

QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Oct 4 2014, 07:47 AM)
I had heard their Kugel model in KLIAV 2013, I think that's quite nice for those people who came from pc multimedia speakers. Though it looks like Edifier but selling at a higher price. But if you can afford it, definitely it will be a wise choice.
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More expensive does not always mean better, and often spending more money just for the brand name only. Can check the rest of the thread on thread starter's comments on comparing speakers. That's why I've always recommended testing/auditioning those speakers first (to see if it suits personal listening preferences before deciding)... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(lex @ Oct 4 2014, 03:56 PM)
Not true anymore nowadays, because Edifier changed that... tongue.gif

Mixing with headphones is a very bad idea. That's because headphones do not have any flat frequency spectrum (tend to accentuate the sound, either bassy and/or too sharp). And it is this overall flat frequency spectrum that the reason studio monitors exist. And for speakers to qualify as studio grade monitors is not easy as they have to be of HiFi quality besides having a flat audio profile. As for Creative GigaWorks T3, has great bass but the clarity especially at the upper frequencies are simply very lacking... wink.gif

More expensive does not always mean better, and often spending more money just for the brand name only. Can check the rest of the thread on thread starter's comments on comparing speakers. That's why I've always recommended testing/auditioning those speakers first (to see if it suits personal listening preferences before deciding)...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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maybe u r right biggrin.gif
but still it's all on TS's decision. One man's meat is another man's poison laugh.gif

TS, remember update us after whatever you have bought. Others here have no obligation to provide you with free info, your updates could be a reference for other forumers in future.
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post Oct 7 2014, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(abai2k @ Oct 3 2014, 10:40 PM)
Edifier R1900TV

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Is that your new speaker ? brows.gif
The packaging seems all Chinese, probably from Taiwan. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(asunakirito @ Oct 7 2014, 09:36 PM)
Is that your new speaker  ?  brows.gif
The packaging seems all Chinese, probably from Taiwan.  hmm.gif
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Edifier speakers are mostly manufactured in China (as with most speakers nowadays including HiVi, MicroLabs, Thornet & Vander, Logitech, Sonic Gear, etc). Anyway, any updates on which speaker you have decided on, and whether have you bought it already? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(lex @ Oct 7 2014, 09:48 PM)
Edifier speakers are mostly manufactured in China (as with most speakers nowadays including HiVi, MicroLabs, Thornet & Vander, Logitech, Sonic Gear, etc). Anyway, any updates on which speaker you have decided on, and whether have you bought it already? unsure.gif
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I seen a few Edifier Studio packaging and its written in English (Technetium, Viewnet @Lowyat) but the one he showed in the video is in Chinese. So I was assuming it was bought from Taiwan instead of here locally. unsure.gif

I have decided the model to purchase but saving funds for something else. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(jchong @ Oct 3 2014, 10:01 PM)
Usually most of these pro active monitors are sold as singles, unless clearly stated as a PAIR.

Anyway the JBL LSR3 series are very good for the price. I know, I'm using the LSR305 myself.
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I'm looking to get the LSR305. Mind sharing where you got yours from?
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hi, im really a newb in this audio thing, ive read your discussions above and at some part im blanked.. im also looking to get a 2.0 setup, i have 2 models in mind the Edifier R1280T / R1600TIII . its for a desktop setup. well most likely ill be going for the R1600TIII, but my concern is, im currenly using a 2.1 setup ($100 Hibikii brand HS302 - i dont think you all heard of it) .. will 2.0 setup be better in terms of SQ? Main usage will be music/videos.

Can 2.0 beat 2.1 subwoofer bass? Im not a techno lover, but i like deep warm bass... hope to get some enlightenment from the sifus here. thanks in advance..
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QUOTE(leroy87 @ Dec 24 2014, 05:45 PM)
hi, im really a newb in this audio thing, ive read your discussions above and at some part im blanked.. im also looking to get a 2.0 setup, i have 2 models in mind the Edifier R1280T / R1600TIII . its for a desktop setup. well most likely ill be going for the R1600TIII, but my concern is, im currenly using a 2.1 setup ($100 Hibikii brand HS302 - i dont think you all heard of it) .. will 2.0 setup be better in terms of SQ? Main usage will be music/videos.

Can 2.0 beat 2.1 subwoofer bass? Im not a techno lover, but i like deep warm bass... hope to get some enlightenment from the sifus here. thanks in advance..
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r1600 is small, unable to cover full range sound especially bass side.
actually u can look at the specs, 4" cone usually cover about 80, 90 100 hz

5.25" can go near to 60,70hz

6.5" can go 50hz

8" even better
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you've got a point. even my current sub is 5.25" . im quite happy with it, just that i find 2.0 speaker units are nice looking. if RM300-400 range of 2.0 speakers cant be nicer sounding than a 2.1 i guess ill stick with 2.1 at the moment.
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QUOTE(leroy87 @ Dec 24 2014, 08:17 PM)
you've got a point. even my current sub is 5.25" . im quite happy with it, just that i find 2.0 speaker units are nice looking. if RM300-400 range of 2.0 speakers cant be nicer sounding than a 2.1 i guess ill stick with 2.1 at the moment.
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r1900t3 is 5 incher, im not sure availability but expect still in the market about rm 3xx
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post Dec 25 2014, 02:10 AM

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yeap, its about 3xx near 400. whats the difference compared to R2500.. price range very near.. seems like both also dont have treble and bass knobs to play with.. lol semakin lama getting bigger size, dunno table can fit or not..
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r2500 i dunno, but r1900 confirm got bass and treble knob.
it say r1900 using rare sheep fur pressed cone if i remember correctly.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 24 2014, 06:14 PM)
r1600 is small, unable to cover full range sound especially bass side.
actually u can look at the specs, 4" cone usually cover about 80, 90 100 hz

5.25" can go near to 60,70hz

6.5" can go 50hz

8" even better
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That frequency can be played but at very low SPL. Besides that, the amp will be distorted and the sound will not be very clean. That's why we have subwoofer for that.
To cover full range (20Hz-20KHz), you need lot's of power and big woofer (>12").
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QUOTE(MunDsuM @ Dec 17 2014, 05:29 AM)
I'm looking to get the LSR305.
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Make sure your source has pro level output, else you'll get hiss/noise.
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assuming getting a 5.0" 2.0 speaker. will it be better than having a 2.1 with 5" sub woofer? in a 2.0 setup you'll have 2x 5.0" , in terms of bass... plus i guess Edifier have some technology to dampen the sound.. MDF wood or something. and most RM100-RM200 2.1 speakers will usually come with plastic..
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QUOTE(leroy87 @ Dec 25 2014, 10:29 AM)
assuming getting a 5.0" 2.0 speaker. will it be better than having a 2.1 with 5" sub woofer? in a 2.0 setup you'll have 2x 5.0" , in terms of bass... plus i guess Edifier have some technology to dampen the sound.. MDF wood or something. and most RM100-RM200 2.1 speakers will usually come with plastic..
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u will definitely hear the improvements. less shaking midbass and stronger front voice or instruments.
pls estimate the dimension first. it will take up more space than hibiki 2.1
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okok thanks ktek.. should be able to fit kua.. the most need to relocate the things on my table..
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 25 2014, 09:36 AM)
Make sure your source has pro level output, else you'll get hiss/noise.
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Can define pro level output?
I'm intending to get a set of 2.0 speakers for my desktop. Only got onboard soundcard (http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme3/ Realtek ALC892)
Looking at JBL LSR305. I believe i need additional items in order to connect it to the pc?
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QUOTE(whatsayyou @ May 9 2015, 02:37 PM)
Can define pro level output?
I'm intending to get a set of 2.0 speakers for my desktop. Only got onboard soundcard (http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme3/  Realtek ALC892)
Looking at JBL LSR305. I believe i need additional items in order to connect it to the pc?
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pro gear normally use XLR with higher driving voltage.
if u link a consumer gear source (giving low voltage) to pro gear amp (expecting to receive high voltage), the pro gear amp gets that very little signal & amplifies that small signal with all the noise. this is bad due to poor gain matching, reducing signal-noise-ratio.

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