heat is normal to happen. edifier put heatsink outside while some others hide inside. make use the air flow of woofer to blow.
dont mind the amp classification, its not big watt power to begin with

SWANS D1010 IV ?

Have not heard them yet, but same vein as Edifier if not mistaken ("German based" company but however their speakers are also manufactured in China, as with most speakers on the market nowadays). As for the Gut model, its very good but you may find its bass kinda lacking (when compared to the Edifier models mentioned). Some information about the actual manufacturer and company origins here: La verdad oculta acerca de T&V (use Google Translate)...

Mine is a review unit. But sound-wise is pretty impressive. Its very clear and clean, and has strong bass also. Can't reveal all the pros (and cons) yet until my final write up..

Not sure yet. The R2700 and R2800 may be quite the bees knees of 2.0 speaker systems within their targeted budget range.

Pretty good one as well, though at lower wattage compared to the Edifiers in the same budget range. May have the same "boxy" type sound as HiVi X4 due to its size....

I have perform audition on both speakers from Edifier and Swan:
1) Swan M200MKii
2) Swan D1080IV
3) Swan X3
4) Swan M50W
5) Edifier R2700
6) Edifier 1600Tiii


What I really like about Edifier is the cover, which covers not just the speakers but overall front area instead of just the drivers, and find them quite solid, slides in/out easily, wouldn't break easily. Just that it has gaps at the sides (top, left, right, bottom), therefore, dust still can go in from the sides. Swan only covered parts of it (e.g. Swan M200MKii) which doesn't exhibit classy appearance.

When comparing my current multi-media speaker system (active speaker) vs Edifier 1600Tiii, the Edifier produces a lot of bzzz sound when hitting the peak, even with low-medium-high volume especially with vocals. (Treble and bass set as 0).

As for Edifier R2700, it did not display any bzzzz issues, it sound so smooth as if it was playing from my computer, an amazing experience. It sounds like a wholesome sound package with the tweeter, woofer and midrange speaker when playing movie sounds and soundtracks that has mixture of instruments (drums, violins, guitar). The woofer gave some kind of lion roaring vibration, great for movies. This is mostly lacking from speakers that only has tweeter and a midrange speaker.

For me, the Swan M200MKii sounds a little more crystal-clear compared to R2700 but does not feel wholesome (soft bass = felt non existent similar to my current speakers). It's suitable for users who are interested in instrumentals, vocals and sounds that has less bass in it. In addition, the Swan M200MKii sound quality is similar to playing on my computer, I couldn't really tell if it was a blind-test.

The D1080IV was great as an overall package but needs to position correctly at ear level, if its place above/below the ears, it felt empty in treble & bass. The R2700 when played at different position (standing/sitting), it does not affect much compared to the D1080-IV. Also, the D1080-IV, it felt half-full in sound, even though both are played at a comfortable nearfield distance (instead of blaring out loud). In terms of pricing, I would expect the D1080-IV would sound better than R2700, but it turns out to be the opposite.

Regarding the M50W, it has superb bass but weak treble. After I increase the treble knob, I could felt the clarity increase a tiny bit.

Swan X3, price the highest among these speakers, the woofers felt not strong, but the treble is ok. One thing I find it inconvenient is it does not have knobs to control the treble, and bass. Plus it has volume knobs but on both speakers. So it would be a little hassle trying to balance both speakers. However, this speakers does not provide a full-rich feeling from D1080-IV, probably due to the smaller size speakers.

So top 3 speakers would be: R2700, M200MKii and D1080-IV.
The R2700 feel more balance in all aspects.
The M200MKii hits the spot with crystal-clear sound but lacks the bass, and the design of the speaker shield doesn't look that appealing.
The D1080-IV is similar to R2700, just sounds less full than it (roughly 65-70%)

p.s. I have also tried the latest model Aune x3 (passive speakers) paired with a dedicated X2 Amplifier, does not perform well compared to the 3 speakers above, even though it cost a combo of RM1000+

This post has been edited by asunakirito: Aug 30 2014, 04:51 PM

How you connect the R2700?
with good sound card/DAC? or Optical/Coaxial?

Just a regular phone.
With DAC/Sound Card, it will increase the sound quality by another 20-25% based on my experience.
Not an audiophile, just a regular music listener for techno, trance, choir-vocal musics, classic, instrumentals and dubstep.

This post has been edited by asunakirito: Aug 30 2014, 04:56 PM

R2700 and R2800 highly depend on good sound card/DAC, or at least internal DAC.

otherwise sound terrible...........totally cant perform

When I auditioned the R2700 speaker with phone, I feel the sound is much pleasant compared to midrange speaker connected to a computer (around 85-90% the quality). If it was played with a dedicated sound card or an excellent onboard motherboard audio driver, I believe it will sound better by a solid 20-25% margin, my 2 cents

The sound of the R2700 is totally different than the one found in most Youtube video review (probably bad quality microphones).


This post has been edited by asunakirito: Aug 30 2014, 05:10 PM

And which one did you buy/get in the end?

Do not expect a low wattage small full range driver to provide the type of performance that the above speakers can achieve...

This other video on Youtube is a little better...

You can also find the local official Edifier video channel here: EdifierMalaysia. Sample video of Edifier Studio 8 (a.k.a Edifier R2800) from that channel...


This post has been edited by lex: Aug 30 2014, 06:00 PM

All of the top speakers I pointed are out of stock

Only have demo unit for audition , and there aren't any demo unit for D1010-IV and M200MKiii

The seller pointed out need to check with distributor, also can't give an estimate when will restock.

Btw, could you check how much wattage does the R2700 consumes on idle and on loud music (50% volume = techno/trance).

This post has been edited by asunakirito: Aug 30 2014, 06:40 PM

Looks like very hot selling indeed. Have you tried Viewnet and/or Sri Computers?

No idea, as I do not have a wattmeter or energy monitoring device to measure power consumption at the power point...

I checked both in Sri Computers and Viewnet at Lowyat.
Tested both Edifier R2800, R2700, R2600 and Luna Eclipse

The R2600 sounds similar to my current speaker setup, so I feel it isn't an upgrade.
R2600 still sounds quite good compared to R2700 but not wholesome.

The R2700 sounds tighter and confined compared to R2800, more for music-game type.

The R2800 sounds kinda spacious, better soundstage, great for movies and music.
But the bass is kinda looser compared to R2700.
Increasing treble and bass makes the flat sound sounds more delicious for entertainment.

Luna Eclipse on the other hand, sounds a little better compared to R2600 but still lower than R2700 due to its bass located behind.
Bass isn't strong either. Bluetooth signal not stable when the device is placed more than 30cm away.
The shutdown/turn-on button takes about 2-3 seconds for it to react.
I like how they made the Luna Eclipse changes the LED light (blue for bluetooth, red for hardwired connection cable).

I prefer the R2800 but cost kinda alot at RM750 compared to RM550 for R2700.

Currently R2600 and R2700 out of stock so couldn't purchase it.

The heatsink behind the R2700 and R2800 isn't that hot at all , is similar warmth to my current speakers.

This post has been edited by asunakirito: Sep 17 2014, 12:41 AM

The actual heatsinks for the audio digital power amplifier is actually inside (hidden from view). That is why you do not see any form of heatsink on the back. That is just the metal plate only. Since its a Class D amplifier (more efficient), it does not need a huge heatsink compared to Class A/B amplifiers (which requires large heatsinks, that can usually be seen at the back)...

Thanks for the heads up
Still waiting for your review on R2700.
So the Audio Engine A5+ (A series) are using Class A/B amplifiers. Huge heatsinks

This post has been edited by asunakirito: Sep 17 2014, 12:49 AM

outer heatsink dont represent what amplifier class design it use.
such as many old "classic" altec dont have outer heatsink at all, but my class d speaker amp got exposed heatsink

swan hivi x3 got independent amp, professional xlr socket, representing the flat tuning of studio monitors.
typical studio monitor dont use netting speaker cover unless outdoor type that use metal grillz.
not every one's cup of coffee like u mentioned.

edifier has bass port, which you can tune the r2800 bass response by stuffing in some cloth material or sponge.

better dac dont represent in %precentage% but the ability to reproduce original content. which means good records get better and bad recording get worse

This post has been edited by ktek: Sep 17 2014, 09:09 PM

You all know that Edifier R2800 V going to launch soon?

Those Altecs are 2.1 systems where the amplifier heatsink is usually tucked inside the subwoofer box most of the time. Typically active 2.0 stereo speakers such as Edifier Studio series can differentiate their internal amplifier system just by looking at the back. Those that have heatsinks (aluminium fins) at the back are typically Class A/B type.

Those XLR socket is for balanced I/O, but its really differential audio signalling actually (with non-inverting and inverting signals). Can easily be converted to use single ended audio interface by pulling the inverting input to GND. Nothing to do with flat tuning of studio monitors (this one is up to the speaker design and amplifier system). That HiVi Swan X3 due to its size and shape is highly lacking in bass (example review reference here). Anyway, the Edifier Studio speakers have removeable front covers.

Stuffing the bass port only dampens some of the bass (reduces some boominess). To really tune the bass, then have to change the internal length of that port hole. Edifier Studio 7 and 8 does have an internal DAC (through the SPDIF connection) but does not really convert to any analogue signals as it goes directly to the Class D power amplifiers instead (fully digital all the way)...

You meant Edifier R2800 version "V"?

class DD

Those home theater soundbars with HDMI inputs only have the same configuration, where it is fully all the way to the digital power amplifiers (does not have any digital to analogue conversion inside). The main difference is that the driver on the soundbars are of poor quality (hardly any trebles and half-hearted midranges)...

You meant Edifier R2800 version "V"?

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Sorry wrong info, should be R2900TV, link can refer here http://www.edifier.com/sce2009/news/viewthread.php?ID=2200