Yep...that is why everyone keeping high alert when it comes to CVT fluid replacement!!!!

I check the bottles at my Proton SC when they change my CVT oil...just to make sure no screw up. Later they put Saga CVT oil...Kanasai....you know lar...in bolehland SC, apa pun boleh.

i did my CVTF change earlier 12k KM due to the sc change my flywheels and starter motor. They drain off my existing CVTF and reuse back.
After that only i feel the car jerk and RPM stuck @ 2.5k

A reuse?! That is not CVTF change at all.

if you change the CVTF frequently need no flush la waste of money only

I didnt flush wor...I change at 40k km...but 3rd year......
SC didnt mentioned any flushing...

This post has been edited by Matrix: Aug 13 2014, 03:20 PM

i also changed mine at 40k but roughly 1 and half year of ownership

My mileage very low...supposely want to change at year 2...somehow forgot...

mitsubishi recommended every 40K (2years) to replace cvtf and flushing

i change earlier coz they reuse the cvtf while replacement of flywheels and starter motor

Change flywheel and starter motor affects gearbox??? ...

If not, how to take out the flywheel if you don't take out the gearbox ?

Ooh...i see, not really sure how the flywheel links to the GB!

I tend to have a different approach to this. I leave it at D. CO in my mind, if you shift it from D to N to D so often (esp when u in a slow moving jam) you tend to put more stress on the auto gearbox. owever if it is a major NON-MOVING-FOR-LONG-TIME jam or a traffic light that takes ages to turn green, I would shift to N and wait. So for me, it really depends how long my car stops, and not on a crawling stop-and-go traffic. In fact, to do that there may be more dangerous.

Just sharing. Of course I could be wrong
Myth No. 5: It's best to shift an automatic transmission into Neutral at red lights. This myth stems from the idea that keeping the transmission in Drive while stepping on the brake wastes fuel and causes unnecessary wear on the driveline. In fact, actual engine wear and fuel loss are minimal.

Regularly shifting from Neutral and back into Drive when the light turns green, then immediately stepping on the gas, can wear — albeit slightly — on the transmission, driveline and engine mounts. Ultimately, these stoplight antics probably won't amount to any measurable harm or good; they're likely just a habit by folks who need to keep their hand busy with the gear selector. Our advice? Get a stick shift.

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>> In fact, actual engine wear and fuel loss are minimal.
Who cares about engine wear and fuel loss. Those are very insignificant. Concerned is on transmission wear.

>>Regularly shifting from Neutral and back into Drive when the light turns green, then immediately stepping on the gas, can wear
This will wear. There's some slack time for those hydraulic ancillary to complete their job (i.e. to engage a gear) before an auto engages. If one shift to D and immediate step on the gas, the engine will just free rev (like in N) for short time, and then suddenly engage ('duk' sound from the gear) and the car sudden surge forward.

Just shift to D (while on a brake), wait for some split second, or 1 sec, then pedal your way out.

fr traffic lights that turns fairly fast I leave it at D. Let's agree to disagree Perhaps new CVT don't need that and has a diff appoach, as they now have that thing call i-STOP. Which i think is an extra bit of disaster waiting to happen. I would disable it immediately. Am a bit too old-skool like that.

Crankshaft -> flywheel -> clutch / torque converter -> gearbox

Tq, sifu!

Saga CVT count ?
So far 3 times CVT light up with different situation
1st, was testing brake do a couple times of hard braking from around 80 to 100 to a complete stop, CVT light up engine cant move.
2nd, Slight downhill, see bump speed around 50 or 60kmh brake( not hard braking ) CVT light up.
This both after restart engine problem solve.
3rd, speeding around 120-130kmh and out of a sudden without braking CVT light up but after 5seconds light off

To be honest bro, i think it is really the saga's cvt only, not all the cvt are behaving like that. So far, i have driven only 2 types of cvt before, the Prius E-CVT and Altis's 7 speed CVT, so i can only tell the characteristics of these 2 cvts. For Prius's CVT, you can't feel the gear switching and changing like you normally will feel from normal AT or DCT/DSG. This, you got no feeling at all. At first, i though it was slow but when i tested it with OBD and apps, it shows from 0-100km/h, within 10 second. Well, it is not sports car fast but i can say it is relatively fast, with 1425kg in weight. If you floor the accelerator pedal, no tyre spinning will happen caz of traction control and VSC, you don't get to spin the tyre. Then if you look at dashboard, the speed shown will jump quite fast and suddenly, you reached 150km/h. The CVT for Prius is using timing chain so no replacement nor rubber effect will be detected; transmission fluid is WS grade so no need to change within the lifespan of the car, but if you want to get it replace every 100k km, be my guess. It is exceptionally quiet, smooth, powerful and not so fun to drive like manual or DSG/DCT but if you opt for something comfortable for you and ur passenger, or piece of mind during busy traffic period, CVT is a very good choice.
Altis's CVT is 7 speed but Toyota has made a kinda funny "features" and for some reasonss, UMW added a simulated gear changing sound whenever you press the gas pedal to imitate the gear changing incident like normal AT has, but you dun get the feel of gear changing but only the gear changing sound. For CVT, gear ration basically is quite wide, though Altis's cvt is 7 speed but still, because of the unique characteristics of cvt, gear changing can't really be felt. This 7 speed cvt is relatively smooth, no jerky nor lag in power, easy control and transmission of power is almost instant, whenever you press the gas pedal, the engine and transmission will feed the car up to the speed that you want, say overtaking other vehicle is easy, no delay and fast.
Between car with AT, DSG/DCT and cvt, i will go for cvt over the other 2 options. Only if the reliability and durability of DSG/DCT has significant improved, no way i will go for it though they are the most fun to drive. No offense to P1, but my dad's saga also have the same behavior like you have described. Once compare with the CVT in Prius and Altis, i am curious as well why so much different between Toyota and P1.

CVT is the future...

so far no issue for me...