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post Aug 12 2014, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(melvinho @ Aug 12 2014, 11:18 AM)
is CVT.

Oil change cost around RM300
Keep goes into limp mode due to belt slip / hot.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Aug 12 2014, 01:53 PM)
I will not buy CVT cars either. It doesn't sound lively at all. And too much transmission loss.
I do agree CVT oil is more expensive.

City 01 4AT - Transmission oil required 2.5L of Honda ATF-Z1 . RM22 X 3 bottles = RM66 , + labour charge RM 20 = RM86 for 20,000km

City 03 CVT- RM128 for 4 litres Honda CVTF. +labour charge RM20 = RM148 for 30,000km.
And nowadays CVT can repair or not like those normal Torque Converter auto gearbox ??? I can see advertisement everywhere offering repair service for normal auto, but CVT I really never seen before .
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Buy manual, would never meet with such issue.
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:09 PM

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Now is getting more vehicles equip with CVT, whether you like it or not, this will be the future trend!
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Aug 12 2014, 09:42 PM)
People have to test drive a CVT car before purchasing and see if they prefer it to Auto. The feeling of driving a CVT is different compared to conventional 4-speed or 6-speed auto.
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and they will say that cars with cvt lack of power cuz they do not feel the rubber band effect doh.gif
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post Aug 13 2014, 10:05 AM

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CVT rubber band effect is more of the TCU issue than the hardware.


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post Aug 13 2014, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(melvinho @ Aug 12 2014, 11:18 AM)
is CVT.

Oil change cost around RM300
Keep goes into limp mode due to belt slip / hot.
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which car CVT are u referring to that cost RM300 for an oil change?
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post Aug 13 2014, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 13 2014, 10:05 AM)
CVT rubber band effect is more of the TCU issue than the hardware.
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correct

case in example is the Mitsu INVECS III CVT and Nissan's X-tronic CVT

both are manufacatured by the same company - JATCO

both both have different "software" - i.e. the TCU (transmission control unit)

the INVECS III have bad rubber band effect on low speed acceleration

the X-Tronic has an improved experience



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post Aug 13 2014, 10:26 AM

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So heavy footer not recommended using CVT, is it? Correct me if i'm wrong.
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post Aug 13 2014, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(cokelatpanda @ Aug 13 2014, 10:26 AM)
So heavy footer not recommended using CVT, is it? Correct me if i'm wrong.
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I think that the term should be "Anyone looking for high performance not recommended to use CVT. Look for DSG or manual."
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post Aug 13 2014, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Aug 12 2014, 02:40 PM)
For inspira is like this :
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first time i see overheated invecs III

i drive maintain at 5 - 6k rpm for very long time in manual mode oso so far no prob *touch wood*

but mine comes with a CVT cooler, which maybe explains some thing
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QUOTE(Demonic Wrath @ Aug 13 2014, 10:30 AM)
I think that the term should be "Anyone looking for high performance not recommended to use CVT. Look for DSG or manual."
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For me, i like to trash my kelisa by heavy footing for fun, not necessarily high performance car. tongue.gif

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post Aug 13 2014, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(cokelatpanda @ Aug 13 2014, 10:26 AM)
So heavy footer not recommended using CVT, is it? Correct me if i'm wrong.
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No. It is fine for CVT - as long as no shocks/impacts.



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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 13 2014, 10:32 AM)
first time i see overheated invecs III

i drive maintain at  5 - 6k rpm for very long time in manual mode oso so far no prob *touch wood*

but mine comes with a CVT cooler, which maybe explains some thing
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Mine 3 years +....never see that symbol even when driving long distance.
But I heard the old slyphys have cvt overheat issues.....Inspira has actually improved Cvt cooler comapred to Lancer...
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QUOTE(melvinho @ Aug 12 2014, 04:07 PM)
Now is alternator problem.

Part change so far.
1) Rear Spoiler
2) Flywheel
3) Starter Motor
4) ABS Motor
5) Brake Master Pump
6) Alternator
LEMON.. I DRIVE LEMON.

My CVT stuck @ 2.5k RPM. I step the padel until floor also stuck @ 2.5k and burning smell came out.LEL.
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I think yours is more like lemon car issue rather than CVT problem...
MR_alien....your Mirage has so many problems?

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post Aug 13 2014, 10:47 AM

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Even EPS motor can overheat and stated in the manual eg, If xxxx symbol appear, means EPS overheated; will harder to turn the steering, or stop one side and let it cool down; not for racing.

Most pple like drive 'auto' like put D forever even on stationary >30min.


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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 13 2014, 10:47 AM)
Even EPS motor can overheat and stated in the manual eg, If xxxx symbol appear, means EPS overheated; will harder to turn the steering, or stop one side and let it cool down; not for racing.

Most pple like drive 'auto' like put D forever even on stationary >30min.
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Stationary > 30 min in D? Leg not tired pressing brake pedal? I always switch to N when stationary, etc at traffic lights.
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post Aug 13 2014, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 13 2014, 10:32 AM)
first time i see overheated invecs III

i drive maintain at  5 - 6k rpm for very long time in manual mode oso so far no prob *touch wood*

but mine comes with a CVT cooler, which maybe explains some thing
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I don't think it is due to CVT cooler. All inspira CVT comes with CVT cooler installed at factory.
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 13 2014, 10:50 AM)
Stationary > 30 min in D? Leg not tired pressing brake pedal? I always switch to N when stationary, etc at traffic lights.
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Very common. Saw it everytime with the brake light so bright on my face. That's why we have so many gearbox failure eg, DSG, CVT, AT, MT (not gearbox but clutch wear fast), yes even MT some pple just engaged in 1 and on the pressed on the clutch that long.


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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 13 2014, 10:12 AM)
correct

case in example is the Mitsu INVECS III CVT and Nissan's X-tronic CVT

both are manufacatured by the same company - JATCO

both both have different "software" - i.e. the TCU (transmission control unit)

the INVECS III have bad rubber band effect on low speed acceleration

the X-Tronic has an improved experience
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Maybe its a combination of both...my new City EarthDream CVt is even more responsuve than most AT b segment car like VIOS.

And yeah, can feel rubber band effect at low speed acceleration on my Inspira ,.while the new City, not noticeable at all.
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post Aug 13 2014, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Aug 13 2014, 10:54 AM)
I don't think it is due to CVT cooler. All inspira CVT comes with CVT cooler installed at factory.
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never said i drove inspira oso laugh.gif
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post Aug 13 2014, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 13 2014, 10:59 AM)
never said i drove inspira oso  laugh.gif
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