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SUSmelvinho
post Aug 12 2014, 11:11 AM, updated 12y ago

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Will you buy car equip with CVT?

For me BIG NO NO!!

Problematic Gearbox.
Expensive Maintenance

MR_alien
post Aug 12 2014, 11:14 AM

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problematic?...high maintenance
u sure?
u sure u didn't did a typo which u should typed DCT?
SUSmelvinho
post Aug 12 2014, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 12 2014, 11:14 AM)
problematic?...high maintenance
u sure?
u sure u didn't did a typo which u should typed DCT?
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is CVT.

Oil change cost around RM300
Keep goes into limp mode due to belt slip / hot.

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post Aug 12 2014, 11:21 AM

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hmmm Honda CVTF oni around rm150... i rmb buying it for rm128 if not mistaken for a 4 litre Honda Original CVTF.. jz chg da CVTF once every 30k km and right now i still have no issue with my CVT GB...

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post Aug 12 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(melvinho @ Aug 12 2014, 11:18 AM)
is CVT.

Oil change cost around RM300
Keep goes into limp mode due to belt slip / hot.
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its 2X more expensive
but service interval is also 2X of those auto box
so it all equals to zero

what is your car anyway?
the car i'm using does not have problem
seldom hear CVT have problem
DCT have way more problem
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:23 AM

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I got a CVT car, the new 1.8 altis. Its abit laggy but ultimately if u dont track ur car, its responsive enough. Maybe its the new gen ones that is good
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:50 AM

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Old gen cvt unreliable especially on the first Muranos. New ones no prob lar.
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post Aug 12 2014, 11:59 AM

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I notice on slight hills CVT is better because normal auto will take some time to downshift, before downshift rpm is low so it feels no power...
edison1437
post Aug 12 2014, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 12 2014, 11:22 AM)
its 2X more expensive
but service interval is also 2X of those auto box
so it all equals to zero

what is your car anyway?
the car i'm using does not have problem
seldom hear CVT have problem
DCT have way more problem
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lol TS's car same as yours laugh.gif
amdxp
post Aug 12 2014, 12:14 PM

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Anyone has any experience on Audi's multitronics CVT as well as Mercedes Autotronic ? Are they durable ?

So far we have (some naming not sure, please correct if deem fit) :

Nissan Xtronics
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Honda CVT
Toyota CVT
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Audi Multitronics
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Mercedes Autotronic
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Subaru Lineartronic
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Don't know what else, but most of these are to be fitted on lower power output car, meaning it has lower torque tolerance limit. Though there is improvement to it, i.e. landmark case being Audi A4 1.8T being able to withstand a high torque of 300NM ?

This post has been edited by amdxp: Aug 12 2014, 01:46 PM
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post Aug 12 2014, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Aug 12 2014, 12:13 PM)
lol TS's car same as yours  laugh.gif
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same as mine?
i've never heard mitsu CVT have problems yet
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post Aug 12 2014, 01:17 PM

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Honda Multimatic S (Also a CVT)
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post Aug 12 2014, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(amdxp @ Aug 12 2014, 12:14 PM)
Anyone has any experience on Audi's multitronics CVT as well as Mercedes Autotronic  ?  Are they durable ?

So far we have (some naming not sure, please correct if deem fit) :

Nissan Xtronics
Honda CVT
Toyota CVT
Audi Multitronics
Mercedes Autotronic
Subaru CVT

Don't know what else, but most of these are to be fitted on lower power output car, meaning it has lower torque tolerance limit.  Though there is improvement to it, i.e. landmark case being Audi A4 1.8T being able to withstand a high torque of 300NM ?
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Subaru CVT on my Forester is good for 350Nm on paper. So far no problem with the gear box. In fact very fun.


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post Aug 12 2014, 01:36 PM

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cvt is still less problematic than semi-automatic and dual clutch
SUSMatrix
post Aug 12 2014, 01:45 PM

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Bro, your Mirage has lots of problems. ..doesnt mean other CVts also got problem...my Inspira 3 years plus, no problem...new Honda City also Cvt. ..

CVT is a hell lot more reliable compared to dual clutch/DSG etc. Like it or not, CVT is here to stay..Personally, I like CVT...hate the sudden shift shock of old TC box.

melvinho I thought your flywheel problem fixed? Now what GB problem??

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post Aug 12 2014, 01:49 PM

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I guess you are referring to 2nd gen Honda City CVT gearbox.
This problem only happen in Msia although the same gearbox is also used in India, Thailand & Indonesia. Honda found out the driving pattern of Msian is different than others. Some SC oso failed to advice their customer on correct maintenance for CVT.
The new Honda City CVT gearbox with torque converter should be more reliable. Only time will tell
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post Aug 12 2014, 01:50 PM

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From the few pics I posted above, looks like Subaru and Audi has more robust CVT belt.

Toyota, Nissan and Merc belt looks a bit soft.

And yup, CVT is here to stay. Looks like with 9 spd auto, DCT, CVT etc being introduced, manual is set to be less popular. But all are here to stay wink.gif
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post Aug 12 2014, 01:53 PM

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I will not buy CVT cars either. It doesn't sound lively at all. And too much transmission loss.
I do agree CVT oil is more expensive.

City 01 4AT - Transmission oil required 2.5L of Honda ATF-Z1 . RM22 X 3 bottles = RM66 , + labour charge RM 20 = RM86 for 20,000km

City 03 CVT- RM128 for 4 litres Honda CVTF. +labour charge RM20 = RM148 for 30,000km.


And nowadays CVT can repair or not like those normal Torque Converter auto gearbox ??? I can see advertisement everywhere offering repair service for normal auto, but CVT I really never seen before .
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post Aug 12 2014, 02:03 PM

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CVT transmission loss?
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post Aug 12 2014, 02:18 PM

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Saga CVT...

Problem:-
1. So called rubber band effect.
2. Cold start & u will get the Jump effect. (sudden acceleration and follow by rubber band effect )
3. overheat when driving aggressively.
4. downhill cvt will maintain constant speed. overtake while downhill = MAX engine REV.
5. Reverse noise very loud... ppl tot my engine rosak or what.
6. CVT oil not cheap
7. not really fuel safe

The gooding:-
1. smooth acceleration.
2. S mode quite nice to play with.
3. cheap car, no complaint .. actually not so cheap only.

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