first time i see overheated invecs III

i drive maintain at  5 - 6k rpm for very long time in manual mode oso so far no prob *touch wood*

but mine comes with a CVT cooler, which maybe explains some thing

Now is alternator problem.

Part change so far.
1) Rear Spoiler
2) Flywheel
3) Starter Motor
4) ABS Motor
5) Brake Master Pump
6) Alternator
LEMON.. I DRIVE LEMON.

My CVT stuck @ 2.5k RPM. I step the padel until floor also stuck @ 2.5k and burning smell came out.LEL.

Even EPS motor can overheat and stated in the manual eg, If xxxx symbol appear, means EPS overheated; will harder to turn the steering, or stop one side and let it cool down; not for racing.

Most pple like drive 'auto' like put D forever even on stationary >30min.

correct

case in example is the Mitsu INVECS III CVT and Nissan's X-tronic CVT

both are manufacatured by the same company - JATCO

both both have different "software" - i.e. the TCU (transmission control unit)

the INVECS III have bad rubber band effect on low speed acceleration

the X-Tronic has an improved experience

Very common. Saw it everytime with the brake light so bright on my face. That's why we have so many gearbox failure eg, DSG, CVT, AT, MT (not gearbox but clutch wear fast), yes even MT some pple just engaged in 1 and on the pressed on the clutch that long.

some benefits of CVT, very smooth driving. You cannot get this with MT or old AT boxes, totally no jerking at all. Very nice to ferry loved ones. Another benefit of CVT is, can easily overtake cars on the highway at highspeeds, really effortless as the torque is accesible so easily.

Yes, most younger people do not appreciate this factor. For those who ferry parents, grandparents, or babies, will really love this smoothness. They will praise your driving very good because no jerking. actually just thanks to CVT haha! babies drink milk also wont spill.

Here is my review for cvt transmission, i have been using it for 2.5 years. Car model saga flx 1.3.

- smoot ride, reads no 'push back' feeling when accelerate. When trying to overtake, you press down the gas pedal, rpm shoot up, maintain at 4k rpm but car speed climb too slowly. Power delivery was delayed for at least 2-3 seconds. Solution , switch to sat mode when driving in highway. Town drving in d mode.

- good for hill climb. Can maintain speed when climbing up hill but engine sound will be rough and harsh due to high rpm while climbing hill. Solution. Insullate the car with sound deadening material , but it is a saga so meh....

- jerky in the morning, traffic jam. Solution , let go brake, let the gearbox do the work, once u feel the car is rolling only you can start giving some gas. Or else it will jerk. Rubber band effect is  strong there.

- fuel saving ? Not really. 11-12l per km for a small car.
You can argue that is driver issue or traffic condition but for me this fuel consumption figure is alright but can be better.

I test drove the old sylphy n inspira. The rubber band effect is there. Maybe cvt is not for me but i just going to make use of what i have for now. I have yet to test drive the new city.

TS started with his saga's cvt

and now it turned into a general CVT discussion

why so ekspensip?

i use petronas lubricants or whaterver they pump in that comes free with my car servicing

so cost is zero.

nah. my triton ATF change is more or less the same price. not surprised at all

what i am surprised is the labor charge - it is just a matter of opening the drain plug and filling in the correct amount of oil, and a new washer for the drain plug. they charge by the hour and usually an ATF change is a 30 min job (hence RM30)

maybe they use diaqueen. maybe they don't. never notice also. cvt koyak, then go buy new car. no car is meant to last forever.

mitsu sc.

*touch wood*
even honda SC cocked up with their city's cvt last time.

if you change the CVTF frequently need no flush la waste of money only

i also changed mine at 40k but roughly 1 and half year of ownership

i change earlier coz they reuse the cvtf while replacement of flywheels and starter motor

If not, how to take out the flywheel if you don't take out the gearbox ?

Crankshaft -> flywheel -> clutch / torque converter -> gearbox

bro, thanks for the reply.

from the way i see it, inspira use engine and gearbox that was tune from mitsu. and the mitsu engineers get it right.

fuel consumption of my 1.3 campro really can fight with a 2.0 hahaha....thinking of it right now, make me think why i didn;t get the myvi or any older 1.8 or 2.0 used before i buy the saga. *regret*

I owned 2008 Honda City VTEC (ex-car from 2008 - 2010)

I don't face any problem though (service at recommended milage), But I dare not say the durability cuz I wasn't using that long. Bought 2 years and sold because need to move to other countries.

The CVT experience

It is awesome for a 1.5 liter car, FC is nothing to complain.
I can manage to tail CAMRY 2.4 at high who is driving high speed (with CVT set to manual and driving at high rpm)

Overall, I said CVT is a good technology. That is why you can see that many cars are switching OLD GB to CVT GB

*CVT jz need to maintain it at recommended millage and remember to change to Neutral when you are at traffic light (I believe all cars are the same actually)

I own a Honda City 2006 VTEC. No problem with my gearbox if you consistently change the CVT oil. CVT gearbox is much more durable, combined with lightweight and simple design. -> How I know? Coz I've opened up another City's gearbox. Don't expect everything to be forever new. Simple stuff like transmission oil and the O-rings should be replaced once in awhile. The shift solenoids in the CVT gearbox doesn't really go kaput. Just don't forget to change the oil. Nuff said.

My City is last batch still VTEC with CVT 7 Speed (facelift from 2006 Model) and is a Thailand Spec

I believe the one you are saying is the later model which using I-VTEC and Traditional AT GB