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 Team Vodafone McLaren Mercedes V2, Malaysia GP Qlfy: Heikki P3, Lewis P4

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post Sep 11 2006, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(weiheng @ Sep 11 2006, 02:03 PM)
if i'm not mistaken there is a case involve JV n Fisi right?
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That was a no brainer. the car was not even 1 metre apart. Alonso and Massa was at least 6 cars apart
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post Sep 11 2006, 04:25 PM

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we flame alonso becos of the eyebrow haha ......

well i have to agree alonso is a more consistant driver and kimi do get too fire up at times and ruin his race. also kimi can't speak properly even after so many times at press conference smile.gif. but i would really like to see him win the wdc next yr

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post Sep 11 2006, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Sep 11 2006, 03:58 PM)
That was a no brainer. the car was not even 1 metre apart. Alonso and Massa was at least 6 cars apart
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is it? lol I'm not too sure of that. but nevertheless he has to let Massa pass by.
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QUOTE(weiheng @ Sep 11 2006, 04:29 PM)
is it? lol I'm not too sure of that. but nevertheless he has to let Massa pass by.
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no he doesn't have to. and why should he? to catch massa on massa's slowing down lap and compromise his own lap time? no driver in their right mind would have done that. schumi included. and for that matter...schumi wouldn't have been so distracted by the car in front of him. massa is a mediocre driver. alonso being penalised for massa's mistake is ridiculous

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post Sep 11 2006, 05:13 PM

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True. and for the downforce to be affected, the cars have to be line astern for it to be noticeable. Massa has himself to blame for going to slow.
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post Sep 11 2006, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(verx @ Sep 11 2006, 05:08 PM)
no he doesn't have to. and why should he? to catch massa on massa's slowing down lap and compromise his own lap time? no driver in their right mind would have done that. schumi included. and for that matter...schumi wouldn't have been so distracted by the car in front of him. massa is a mediocre driver. alonso being penalised for massa's mistake is ridiculous
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what slowing down lap? it's Massa flying lap la..
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post Sep 11 2006, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(verx @ Sep 11 2006, 05:08 PM)
no he doesn't have to. and why should he? to catch massa on massa's slowing down lap and compromise his own lap time? no driver in their right mind would have done that. schumi included. and for that matter...schumi wouldn't have been so distracted by the car in front of him. massa is a mediocre driver. alonso being penalised for massa's mistake is ridiculous
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it is just one of those technicality stuff that just happens

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I, personally dont think Kimi Raikkonen will look good in red... Silver and black is his colour... Dissapointed that he is leaving McLaren... Yea, we got Alonso, but its not going to be the same...
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Wonder what will happen to Alonso after he take over Mclaren for the next season whistling.gif
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post Sep 11 2006, 07:06 PM

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These kind of things always happened one, just a matter of when n where. Ferrari trying to pay Alonso back for what he did to MSC a few GP back when he deliberately slowdown to let MSC overtake under red flag. Its MONZA u know, so its worth a try. Hahaha. Somemore this kind of thing damn complicated. Like MSC in Monaco this year, simply parked his car there. Its up to you how to exploit the situation. Somemore if you are doing the best times in earlier sector to back up your claim, its even easier for the stewards to side by you.

Sometimes drama are fun u know. Just like football. Sometimes offside also count the goal, sometimes not offside also cancel goals. It adds excitement and anger to the game n makes ppl wanna see how to avenge it.

If compare Alonso to MS and Raikonen, I think I still prefer MS first and Raikonen 2nd. Raikonen too quiet and hard to understand what he;s trying to say. If not sure bcome his fan. Alonso meanwhile is like a baby. I think he will b like Barrichello in Honda this year.
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QUOTE(almattitude_v1 @ Sep 11 2006, 06:45 PM)
I, personally dont think Kimi Raikkonen will look good in red... Silver and black is his colour... Dissapointed that he is leaving McLaren... Yea, we got Alonso, but its not going to be the same...
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Yea.. I gotta say I will need some time to get used to the red outfit that Kimi wear next year.. It will never be the same again at McLaren. I really hope Kimi will make a U-turn on his decision.
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post Sep 11 2006, 09:53 PM

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kimi in red...
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kinda bad job tho.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(shauno @ Sep 11 2006, 09:53 PM)
kimi in red...
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kinda bad job tho.. tongue.gif
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hey is kinda weird and funny... laugh.gif
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post Sep 11 2006, 10:30 PM

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yea....look like oversized head kimi.lol
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QUOTE(weiheng @ Sep 11 2006, 05:22 PM)
what slowing down lap? it's Massa flying lap la..
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read my post carefully. what do u do after a flying lap? u slow down...if alonso let massa past him he would have caught massa on his slowing down lap....sheesh rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kitman @ Sep 11 2006, 04:25 PM)
we flame alonso becos of the eyebrow haha ......

well i have to agree alonso is a more consistant driver and kimi do get too fire up at times and ruin his race. also kimi can't speak properly even after so many times at press conference smile.gif. but i would really like to see him win the wdc next yr
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I think we're gonna have to accept that Kimi talks like that because Finland
language is quite soft.
Listen to him talking in his native tongue...so soft.
Not like us tongue.gif in native or in bahasa, always loud one tongue.gif

QUOTE(almattitude_v1 @ Sep 11 2006, 06:45 PM)
I, personally dont think Kimi Raikkonen will look good in red... Silver and black is his colour... Dissapointed that he is leaving McLaren... Yea, we got Alonso, but its not going to be the same...
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We're gonna get use to it.

QUOTE(kapitan @ Sep 11 2006, 07:06 PM)
These kind of things always happened one, just a matter of when n where. Ferrari trying to pay Alonso back for what he did to MSC a few GP back when he deliberately slowdown to let MSC overtake under red flag.
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Interesting theory smile.gif

QUOTE(shauno @ Sep 11 2006, 10:30 PM)
yea....look like oversized head kimi.lol
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post Sep 12 2006, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(verx @ Sep 12 2006, 12:45 AM)
read my post carefully. what do u do after a flying lap? u slow down...if alonso let massa past him he would have caught massa on his slowing down lap....sheesh  rolleyes.gif
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when ppl doing his flying lap and u r not u should let ppl pass. the same apply to massa. if massa didnt let alonso pass then he should be penaltised as well..
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hmmm...I also think that the penalties given to Alonso was a controversial decision.

Watch this:

Penalty Alonso Monza



1st of all, Alonso's on his hot lap...has 90 seconds to reach the Start/Finish line
before the chequered flag.

Massa's on his flying lap.
I don't see any blocking.

Maybe it's an act of courtesy...since the driver behind is on his flying lap,
the hot lap driver in front must yield.
Too bad it's not in the rules of F1.
Is it?
Since no courtesy given by Alonso/Renault, Ferrari starts to whine.

Ferrari's whining all the time.
Since they have a big mama (FIA) behind them...every whining will favor them.

Kimi, please don't whine when you're in a Ferrari.
Winning like that is so lame and cheap.
I don't care who the drivers are...if his attitude suxx...I'll hate him.

Be more like Mika...aggresive but smooth, smart.
Try to be better with more world titles.

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I think the nicest battles were with Mika (Hakkinen) in the end. They were very high level without any animosities and hard racing.
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QUOTE(weiheng @ Sep 12 2006, 01:10 AM)
when ppl doing his flying lap and u r not u should let ppl pass. the same apply to massa. if massa didnt let alonso pass then he should be penaltised as well..
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talking is easy. letting ppl past is not. how many times have we seen the car behind being bottled by a slower car because he caught him at the wrong point. alonso did the right thing by staying out in front so that massa had no way to catch him. there is NO rule saying he must let the car behind pass because then the rule would be too vague. what would be considered acceptable distance? so should every car on the same lap let massa thru as well?? rolleyes.gif

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