hope tat next season, he can shut alonso up....

Yeah especially during suzuka ...i think he is on the last grid right?? and he manage to win the gp, overtaking fisi at the 1st corner on final lap...that's so so cool

sorry if i prejudge u.. what i can say is FIA is just being consistent with their penalties. I checked back the video involved GF n JV. GF start to wave his hand when it's like more than 100metres behind. And he continues to wave his hand even it's 100metres away. Only until the last part of the video where they go through a very slow corner then their distance close to within 2 metres. I see a same distance or maybe closer in Massa's case. of course Massa didnt wave his hand la..

FIA did that just for 1 reason - business. Seriously they'll do that to who ever 2 teams that is on top, to artificially create a close fight. They did that to Ferrari n Schumi. They did that to Mclaren n Renault. When it involve Ferrari ppl just think it must be a FIA - Ferrari cospiracy theory. Why nobody think it's FIA - Renault cospiracy theory then FIA change rules to end Ferrari's dominance. It just so happened that Ferrari is consistently 1 of the competitive top team.

For Alonso's engine, Kubica, Massa n Alonso basically maintain a similar speed from starting until 2nd pit. If other cars engine no prob but only his got prob then it's Renault engine prob. I point out this because somebody saying if not because of that penalty Alonso can win la bla bla bla.. even if he get the pole in qualifying he still have to rev hard to hold Mclaren n Ferrari behind that is obviously faster. His engine gonna blow also.. at the end he deserve 0 point. cheers

Fisi suxx

Smart when Kimi took the outside line and attack the corner in a differ way than
Fisi.
Kimi quickly learns Fisi driving styles.

Such a manouver by Kimi.
Bold and perfect.
Just like Mika.
On the throttle and the brakes...passed Fisi.
So kewl

Fisi surely crying on the radio




McLaren has a better car in 2005.
It's the god d*mn reliability

This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Sep 12 2006, 07:01 PM

no mika didn't lose his cool.
the only time is during monza when he went behind the bushes and cried for crashing out.
he's cool even at barcelona when he blew his engine in the last lap while leading.

hail to the real flying finn mika

Well, Mika was one of the best and he will be remembered as the driver who beat Michael. He is also the original Flying Finn. This nick was not used before his time. He certainly deserves that nick. Hopefully, Kimi will be able to follow his footsteps. Just a sad thing that Kimi does not become a champ with McLaren.

Yeah.
Once joined Ferrari, no way he's gonna change team.
Ferrari's so good, even Michael never change teams.
Kimi's gonna be the next Michael Schumacher as in winning a lot of world titles.

Alonso 'kasi busuk' nama McLaren lah.
Haishh...

it was Michael along with Todt and Brawn that made Ferrari good. they were nowhere before Michael joined them. he never changed teams because he had a passion for the team. Michael is a special driver. to claim Kimi will be the next Michael is premature. Kimi hasn't convinced me that he will be able to repeat what Michael has done with Ferrari or even Benetton.

Alonso's attitude is abit of a problem but he has proven that he has the talent to be among the best. I'm sure Ron will be able to give him a few lessons on PR

yeah, his lack of PR skill....he'll talk his heart out without filtering it thru his brain 1st..

but v cannot doubt tat kimi is great....coz he's 2nd to WDC during 2004 n 2005

2003 you mean.
But from what I see, there are one driver that I rate higher than Alonso and Kimi right now, and he's not even in F1 yet. He's the Ron Dennis protogee Lewis Hamilton. He just blew the competitors in F3 and GP2. I just hope that he can do the same in F1, as from what I can see, only Fernando and Kimi is worth mentioning next season. No disrespect to other drivers, but they are not usually that consistent as these 2 are.

On fernando, I don't think he has any problem with his attitude. I mean he's usually calm and not prone to any outburst, bar the monza's debacle. This was the first time I see him genuinely mad, and I don't really blame him.

Weiheng, the JV and Fisi incident, it was less than 100m. use the braking markers to check.

This post has been edited by linkinstreet: Sep 13 2006, 11:08 AM

we'll see what Lewis Hamilton can do.

Well, it is very hard to predict Lewis Hamilton's performance. There a lot of racers who didn't do well in F1. I hope he can race well and give McLaren something to cheer about.

exactly my point.
See Rosberg..so good in GP but bad in F1.
Or maybe it's the Williams car that suxx

A lot of differ between GP and F1.
Anyways, we'll see.

Either it's true his good or just talk only.
Once hired, given a crappy car...after few years then move to Ferrari again
Same old story
Remind me of a 'particular' McLaren driver
Guess who

no that just proves he lacks something. champions are champions. schumi won 2 world titles with benetton when williams were the faster car. and alonso proved he can win under pressure last season despite having the 2nd best car.

now don't get me wrong, i like kimi as a driver and i do see him winning a WDC, but i am one bit not impressed that he went and signed a pre-contract with ferrari so early in the year before mclaren could counter offer. they say actions speak louder than words and so it seems.

u must compare rosberg's performance in comparison to his teammate and i think he has done well.
many ppl have said hamilton is really talented, so we'll have to wait and see.

and u talk as if ferrari are the only team that drivers want to drive for.
in fact with schumi retiring and todt and brawn likely to follow, they might just go back where they were before. the fact is u never know who will have the best car the next season or in the long term.

This post has been edited by verx: Sep 13 2006, 02:40 PM

true. true.

Williams were the faster car when Michael was in Benetton but the problem is
Williams has no drivers as good as Senna.
Williams started to get the game back up in San Marino but tragically the car
has a lot of problems and Senna died because of it.
Some say the car's too low on the ground in order to get more speed.
Also, Hill with Williams nearly won the title of not because of Michaels controversial
manouver on Hill in Austrllia 1994.
It was a close fight.

Rosberg performance compare to whom?
Mark Webber?
IMHO, Webber performed better.
More points than Rosberg.

Bold text.
actually, most drivers would love to drive for Ferrari.
Fast cars...high budget..who wouldn't?

all the cars were very low back then...it was only after senna's death that safety measures were given more importance. and controversial or not, michael was considered still a rookie then. i personally don't know how ppl can claim he's been a great sportsman but that's just me

u have a point. but i still think he's done quite well with a very poor williams car.

currently, yes of course they have the fastest car and biggest budget, but who's to say they will have the fastest car for the next 5 years? all i'm saying is if McLaren has the fastest car next season, won't it make Kimi look stupid?
it's not like McLaren doesn't have a big budget

but d pre-contract is juz a rumours, rite?? todt said there's no such thing..

wow.. sound so pro.. how u know McLaren never ask him for futhur contract before Ferarri Sign him?

come on.. talk fact.. where is the pre-contract? Todt clearly said that is no pre-contract.. and when he sign.. that is a contract..

I dont think Kimi made the wrong move. I dont doubt McLaren is capable of making a fast car but Ferrari record for the past 5 years speaks for themselves. Simply said, they are pretty consistent except for year 2005 where there were no tyre changes. But now tyre change is back and they are back as well. Im pretty confident that Kimi or Massa will win WDC. As for Apelonso, I really like to see what he can do with a silver car. I hope he didnt come out n report launch control not as good as renault or i cant stomp the brakes late (like barrichello).