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 Team Vodafone McLaren Mercedes V2, Malaysia GP Qlfy: Heikki P3, Lewis P4

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post Sep 12 2006, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(verx @ Sep 12 2006, 01:37 AM)
talking is easy. letting ppl past is not. how many times have we seen the car behind being bottled by a slower car because he caught him at the wrong point. alonso did the right thing by staying out in front so that massa had no way to catch him. there is NO rule saying he must let the car behind pass because then the rule would be too vague. what would be considered acceptable distance? so should every car on the same lap let massa thru as well?? rolleyes.gif
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tell that to the LYN F1 Challenge 99-02 RH2004 League tongue.gif
few incidents so far, either bad timing or won't bother to use side mirror tongue.gif
but with me...no problems.
Iceman lah katakan laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Sep 12 2006, 01:50 AM

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sometimes a little common sense goes a long way.
i have watched f1 for quite a number of years now and i remember during the good old fights between schumi and mika where they tried to distract each other during qualy. it's gamesmanship and it's part of the sport.
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post Sep 12 2006, 01:56 AM

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Can't forget this move ever since it happen smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnxo89MTVo8...related&search=
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post Sep 12 2006, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Sep 12 2006, 01:56 AM)
Can't forget this move ever since it happen smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnxo89MTVo8...related&search=
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Belgium - Spa Francorchamps.

Yeah.
I guess that McLaren were faster than Ferrari in a straight line...misses that with
current McLaren cars shakehead.gif

See Mika's hand gestures to Michael tongue.gif
Also, Mika squeeze Michael and cover the inside line...Michael has no where to go tongue.gif
Smart move.

This one has heavy metal music on it...better feeling tongue.gif


I saw another one where Mika passes Villeneuve in Sepang.
He made Villeneuve look like a rookie tongue.gif

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post Sep 12 2006, 02:17 AM

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Hakkinen - Unforgettable moments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmcE5LPiFp4...related&search=

Notice the clip when it's 4:16 minute, i remember that start as well, brilliant stuff from McLaren thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Sep 12 2006, 01:56 AM)
Can't forget this move ever since it happen smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnxo89MTVo8...related&search=
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i remember watching that live and jumping up and down when he pulled it off.
Absolutely Awesome.
2000 was a great year for F1. smile.gif
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post Sep 12 2006, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Sep 12 2006, 02:17 AM)
Hakkinen - Unforgettable moments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmcE5LPiFp4...related&search=

Notice the clip when it's 4:16 minute, i remember that start as well, brilliant stuff from McLaren thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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actually 5.30

you're simply the best Mika.

Too bad we're not going to see a McLaren winning the world title.
Car not that good.
Unless morons of FIA change more rules.

Sadly Kimi won't continue the tradition as a Finn winning the world title with a
McLaren as Mika did.

Maybe Kimi's destiny is with Ferrari.




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post Sep 12 2006, 02:42 AM

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NO, what i mean is when the clips is 4:16, watch the start from McLaren.

IIRC Coulthard is on pole, Michael 2nd and Mika 3rd. Then Coulthard block Michael and Mika just go pass two of them. Wonderful stuff!

Perfectly done thumbup.gif

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post Sep 12 2006, 10:06 AM

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@bear bear.. wat are u talking about?? Coulthard, Mika, Micheal.. and Kimi??? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif Kimi driving a Sauber Petronas to pass?? sweat.gif
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I mean Mika, got confused myself tongue.gif
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post Sep 12 2006, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Sep 12 2006, 01:32 AM)
hmmm...I also think that the penalties given to Alonso was a controversial decision.

Watch this:

YouTube - Penalty Alonso Monza

1st of all, Alonso's on his hot lap...has 90 seconds to reach the Start/Finish line
before the chequered flag.

Massa's on his flying lap.
I don't see any blocking.

Maybe it's an act of courtesy...since the driver behind is on his flying lap,
the hot lap driver in front must yield.
Too bad it's not in the rules of F1.
Is it?
Since no courtesy given by Alonso/Renault, Ferrari starts to whine.

Ferrari's whining all the time.
Since they have a big mama (FIA) behind them...every whining will favor them.

Kimi, please don't whine when you're in a Ferrari.
Winning like that is so lame and cheap.
I don't care who the drivers are...if his attitude suxx...I'll hate him.

Be more like Mika...aggresive but smooth, smart.
Try to be better with more world titles.
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seriously every team whine.. what u call when Mclaren or Renault whine?

QUOTE(verx @ Sep 12 2006, 01:37 AM)
talking is easy. letting ppl past is not. how many times have we seen the car behind being bottled by a slower car because he caught him at the wrong point. alonso did the right thing by staying out in front so that massa had no way to catch him. there is NO rule saying he must let the car behind pass because then the rule would be too vague. what would be considered acceptable distance? so should every car on the same lap let massa thru as well?? rolleyes.gif
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i dun know let ppl pass is a must or a courtesy.. when u hv no prob when other team doing it or being penalised but u start to whine when Ferrari is involved..

fair or not fair.. he deserved 0 point in this race. He cut the chicane and do u think he deserve being penalised? what if Schumi cut the chicane?

and at last he also DNF. u said he rev his engine too hard? he was up to 6th place after first corner.. up to 5th place after Heifield's speeding in pitlane. Did u see him attacking? Rev engine too hard? bullshit..


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The next race in Shanghai will suit Mclaren more as they have better straight speeds as shown in the last race in Monza. Mclaren will be a much more competitive team compared to Renault with Ferrari this time around.
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QUOTE(weiheng @ Sep 12 2006, 12:40 PM)
i dun know let ppl pass is a must or a courtesy.. when u hv no prob when other team  doing it or being penalised but u start to whine when Ferrari is involved..

fair or not fair.. he deserved 0 point in this race. He cut the chicane and do u think he deserve being penalised? what if Schumi cut the chicane?

and at last he also DNF. u said he rev his engine too hard? he was up to 6th place after first corner.. up to 5th place after Heifield's speeding in pitlane. Did u see him attacking? Rev engine too hard? bullshit..
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it's not whether ferrari was involved or not. i'm not a renault fan and i don't really like alonso although i respect him but i'm trying to be objective by stating that the stewards were wrong to penalise him and why i think so.

u however prejudge me unfairly by saying i whine only when ferrari is involved which isn't the case, have tried to justify the steward's cock up in an attempt to "protect" your dear ferrari because they are undoubtedly the beneficiaries of the stewards' cock-up but the fact is i'm not blaming ferrari; i'm blaming the FIA. and then u go on to call alonso's claim bullshit as if u had renault's telemetry to show that alonso wasn't pushing as hard as he could. rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 12 2006, 01:25 PM

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i rly miss mika...
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post Sep 12 2006, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Sep 12 2006, 02:42 AM)
NO, what i mean is when the clips is 4:16, watch the start from McLaren.

IIRC Coulthard is on pole, Michael 2nd and Mika 3rd. Then Coulthard block Michael and Mika just go pass two of them. Wonderful stuff!

Perfectly done thumbup.gif
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I wonder, back then launch control still being used...correct?
Surely when I saw Mika's rear tyres smoking...he must be very good with the
clutch and 1st gear.

I think it happened once in LYN F1C.
I was 3rd on the grid...then the pole sitter busy squeezing and blocking the 2nd driver on the grid.
I passed both of them from the left and went 1st.
Only to be knocked by the pole sitter at turn 1 shakehead.gif

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at least I never see Kimi said he rav the engine too hard from the last post or drop 10 place for engine change..

wat I can see is blaming the the luck..

look @ last year.. yeah.. he blow his engine so many times.. but he do can get into podium from very back of the starting grid...


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post Sep 12 2006, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 12 2006, 02:23 PM)
at least I never see Kimi said he rav the engine too hard from the last post or drop 10 place for engine change.. 

wat I can see is blaming the the luck..

look @ last year..  yeah.. he blow his engine so many times.. but he do can get into podium from very back of the starting grid...
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maybe it's all about personal attitude.
Alonso with his.
Michael with his.
Kimi with his.
Mika with his.
Kimi's more like Mika.
I haven't had much time to see Mika in action.
Maybe you guys can tell me.
I know he's cool but does he ever done things like threwing the steering wheel
like Kimi did.
or push the stewards like Kimi did?



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I like Kimi/Mika.. cool.. dont talk non sense..

Frust also cool only..

Kimi engine blow.. walk to grandstand.. take out the clothe.. have drink wt his friend.. watch GP!! laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 12 2006, 02:32 PM)
I like Kimi/Mika..  cool..  dont talk non sense.. 

Frust also cool only.. 

Kimi engine blow.. walk to grandstand.. take out the clothe..  have drink wt his friend..  watch GP!!  laugh.gif laugh.gif
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oh yeah...it seems like 'juz a job'
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post Sep 12 2006, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 12 2006, 02:32 PM)
I like Kimi/Mika.. cool.. dont talk non sense..

Frust also cool only..

Kimi engine blow.. walk to grandstand.. take out the clothe.. have drink wt his friend.. watch GP!! laugh.gif laugh.gif
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that's Kimi.
forgot to mention...he drank till drunk...then 'gedebush' into the water tongue.gif
Unlike Alonso...too obsessed now...then makes a lot of silly mistakes.

He's more cooler this season.
He knows his world title chase this year is over.

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