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post Apr 28 2019, 07:59 AM

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Bought this Nissan engine oil from a spare parts dealer recently. Quite cheap at RM125 for Fully Synthetic oil 5W30.

Saw from the bottle, it was manufactured by Shell Thailand.

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post Apr 28 2019, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Apr 28 2019, 08:24 AM)
Manufacture by Shell Thai? Shell also dun have refinery in Thai.i dun get it. Did they mean packing izzit?
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Sorry, I've thrown the bottle away after changing the oil. The back label did mentioned that the oil is blended by Shell and is imported by Tan Chong Motors Malaysia from Thailand.

I got the below info from Lazada.

Gasoline Oil - SN 5W30 Fully Synthetic x 4L
Imported by Shell Malaysia Trading Sdn Bhd
Manufactured by The Shell Company of Thailand Ltd
Distributed by Tan Chong & Sons Motor Company
Good Quality
100 % Genuine Product

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post Apr 28 2019, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Apr 28 2019, 08:27 AM)
Sorry, I've thrown the bottle away after changing the oil. The back label did mentioned that the oil is blended by Shell and is imported by Tan Chong Motors Malaysia from Thailand.

I got the below info from Lazada.

Gasoline Oil - SN 5W30 Fully Synthetic x 4L
Imported by Shell Malaysia Trading Sdn Bhd
Manufactured by The Shell Company of Thailand Ltd
Distributed by Tan Chong & Sons Motor Company
Good Quality
100 % Genuine Product
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Judging from the pricing, very likely this engine oil is using the highly refined Group III base oil instead Group IV (PAO) oil.
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post Apr 28 2019, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Apr 28 2019, 08:51 PM)
So meaning still not good enough because of Group 3 instead of Group 4?
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What I read is articles had been saying that highly refined Group III base oil are now comparable to Group IV oil.

That is why even Group III oil can be classified as fully synthetic. If you ask me, I will buy the rm125 fully oil as it is cheaper.
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post Apr 30 2019, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(bob @ Apr 30 2019, 12:17 PM)
last month i bought semi-syn 10w/40 nissan EO at Aeon..
its stated there ...manufactured by Total Oil asia
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Different viscosity already and most likely blended by another oil producer.

Like Honda, different viscosity are blended by another manufacturer. It is either Idemitsu or JX Nippon oil.
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post Aug 4 2019, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Aug 2 2019, 11:39 AM)
should i use 0w20 or 0w30 honda engine oil for 2013 honda city car with 130k ++ mileage .. it is a six year car now..

Anyone use before 0w20 for honda city and comment?
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The L15A7 engine was original designed to run on 5W30 engine oil. Subsequently, Honda said the engine is also compatible with 0W20.

I highly recommend you to use the 0W30 (red cap) Honda oil as it is a grade higher than the 0W20 (green cap) oil.

If I remember correctly, the 0W30 oil uses PAO based oil (Group IV) whereas the 0W20 are on highly refined group III oil. That is why the huge disparity in pricing between these 2 oils.
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post Aug 6 2019, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(edisoner90 @ Aug 6 2019, 09:39 AM)
how you know that honda 0W30 oil uses PAO based oil (Group IV) ?? any cross reference? and how to see if other brand engine oil use PAO?
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Previously, before Honda updated their oil to SN, their old fully synthetic oil is confirmed as PAO based as published on their website.

After the update, they've removed the information but I would assume Honda is still using PAO for their top grade engine oil.
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post Oct 20 2019, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(ghostcommand @ Oct 20 2019, 03:05 AM)
I have an old Honda Accord with 225000KM on it, my dad's old car la, he refuses to use any synthetic oil and only used mineral oil like Shell Helix HX5 15W-40 or Castrol GTX and so far the engine runs fine, nothing special. He even uses Castrol GTX 15W-40 in his Mercedes for 11000KM then only do oil change, he told me the mechanic said the engine still very clean even tho the car is 15 years old with 260000KM.

Do you think it's a good idea to change to semi-synthetic 10W-40 A3/B4 oil? Will it have better FC or pickup?

Or just stay with Shell Helix HX5? Sorry for all the questions I'm really noob and just started learning about all these things about car maintenance
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Since the engine is considered on the high mileage side, better to stick with mineral oil as what you father did all these while.

Using semi or fully synthetic oil which may have better cleaning properties might cause leakage later.
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post Nov 25 2019, 06:29 AM

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Actually I don't understand why some people says european engine oil doesn't suit Malaysia weather?

I think as long as they carry the API certification, these oil basically works the same.. Same viscosity and flash point.

If it states 5W30, these oil will have the same specification no matter if it is made anywhere (minus the oil additives and formulation as it varies from brand to brand).

So,as long as it has the API donut sign, it should be good to use anywhere.
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post Feb 29 2020, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(tonyckt @ Feb 28 2020, 06:07 PM)
Driving 7 years old myvi 1.5 now.
Previously using full synthetic 5W-30 engine oil.
Saw Tesco selling cheap shell helix ultra 5w-40.
Should I change to 40 or stick with 30 ?
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The MYVI do accept 40 weight oil but fuel consumption will suffer a little.

If me, I'll stick to the recommended 30 weight oil all the way.
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post Jun 25 2020, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Jun 24 2020, 12:31 AM)
Thanks for your feedback bro.
Btw may I ask if 0w20 is suitable for turbocharged cars such as Exora Turbo. The manual suggests (not recommends) 10w30 on its chart for optimum temperature .
The car is a weekend / off peak car also. My kind of driving style is a mixture of normal driving and sometimes short burst of turbo acceleration . no track racing.
Currently im using 5w40 full synt.
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In my opinion, it is always better to stick to the owner's manual recommended oil viscosity. If you want to try lighter oil, maximum you should go is 10W30 or probably 5W30.

Maybe you can try the Syntium 3000 SE Fully Synthetic 5W30 since this oil is sold by PROTON as its service centre.
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post Jul 26 2020, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(incredibless @ Jul 26 2020, 09:34 PM)
Hi all experts. I want to ask which engine oil is better? I went into two petrol station and check out their oil varities for my upcoming servicing. Thus was wondering which oil is better since the price is almost RM100 differences for both fully syn.

Thinking to try other oil from my current ride where my driving condition is jam and high speed.

1. Petronas Syntium 3000 5W-30 retails at RM180
2. Shell Helix Ultra 5w-30 : retails at RM277

Which is better in terms of 10k intervals? I am looking for oil that protects many year to come.
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I am currently using this.

https://shopee.com.my/product/19534140/2375644097?smtt=0.0.9
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post Jul 27 2020, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(incredibless @ Jul 27 2020, 10:37 AM)
you got it from shopee? How is the oil performing? Interested to know.....
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So far so good. Paulhew is selling genuine oil. They have a physical spare parts shop called EC Auto at Batu Caves area.

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post Jul 27 2020, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Jul 27 2020, 02:20 PM)
oh wow..didnt knew they have a physical shop. that's good to hear.
i was just searching back who is the bro that asked about paul hew and driving a city as well coz i have some update.

might be you  laugh.gif

so i have changed to liqui moly bought from paulhew @ shopee on early march. that was before i start to wfh then MCO kicks in.
since then, i'm working from home and does not drive as often.

but i can tell you. i feel this oil is quite good. can feel smooth as well. whether it is possible to be fake or not. no way to tell.  laugh.gif
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When you buy from Paulhew, they will give you the oil change reminder sticker which is under EC Auto. Buy with peace of mind. Confirm it's safe. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 12 2020, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(shen1716 @ Oct 8 2020, 07:44 AM)
Hi, are petronas syntium 7000 0w16 suitable for proton iriz?workshop say it is safe to use as this oil are resistance to heat even the viscosity is low.
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I think Iriz owner's manual did not recommend 0W16 oil to be use in the engine.

It is best you stick to the recommended oil viscosity. For Iriz it is:

fully synthetic Syntium 3000 SE 5W-30
semi synthetic Syntium 800 SE 10W-30

fully synthetic Syntium 3000 5W-40
semi synthetic Syntium 800 10W-40

fully synthetic Shell Ultra 5W-40
semi synthetic Shell Helix HX7 10W-40

Probably you can go with the syntium 3000 range @ 5W30.
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post Jun 1 2021, 05:11 AM

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QUOTE(mitkey06 @ May 31 2021, 10:23 PM)
is paulhew from Shopee selling Shell helix oil original ? is it recommended ?
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Bought Helix HX8 from paulhew.. confirm it is original.. The oil is so pure that I had difficulty identifying the oil level through the dipstick.

I also bought Nissan oil, Petronas Syntium many rounds from him and all no problem.

Actually Paulhew I think is EC Auto spare parts shop located in Batu Caves area.

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QUOTE(wlchong79 @ Jun 8 2021, 07:36 PM)
yr luck. got info he is mixing oil to sell. impossible a non dealer can sell PETRONAS MALAYSIA packing so cheap
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You heard only.. so far been using oil bought from Paulhew for years. Actually, his price isn't the cheapest but still a lot cheaper than retail.

All cars at my home, the engine are still running as smooth as silk.
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post Jun 9 2021, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(wlchong79 @ Jun 9 2021, 09:20 PM)
i deal directly with petronas marketing . they dont know who is paul hew la. ori price impossible at that low too,
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I think they won't know because Paulhew is just the shopee name.. The spare part shop is actually EC Auto.

Btw, when I bought from Paulhew.. i got this box. I suppose fake oils don't come in these sort of boxes.



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post Jun 10 2021, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(wlchong79 @ Jun 10 2021, 10:21 AM)
alamak. box cannot do fake ? umw coolant also hell lot of fake in on9 shop la.
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You say its fake then its fake lor.. biggrin.gif

To me, I don't think it's fake because I bought Helix HX8 and Syntium 3000 from him.

Both oil dye colour are totally different. Helix is like clear and pure... Syntium is gold colour.

If the oil is fake, both Shell and Syntium should be the same colour as they use the same recycled oil and fill into different bottles.

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QUOTE(wlchong79 @ Jun 10 2021, 04:59 PM)
1st i never say is 100% fake.
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