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post Jan 3 2016, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Jan 3 2016, 10:20 AM)
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Sorry and thanks.

Need to see what's good about ester based oil. I'm non technical person looking around in you guys' technical discussion.

lol esters:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ester#List_of_ester_odorants
Can't really understand the fruit thingy.
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as your wiki showed, essentially you're using perfume tongue.gif
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post Jan 5 2016, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 2 2016, 01:04 AM)
still cheap btw
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What was the price that you bought?
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post Jan 5 2016, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jan 5 2016, 01:37 PM)
What was the price that you bought?
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About that price also.

You won't get that price again after gst, assuming there's still 0w20 stocks as they say Motul Malaysia (high-n lubricants company) no longer carry 0w20
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post Jan 6 2016, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 29 2015, 12:32 PM)
thats what people conventionally think.

i ran my 300v for 2 track days and around/over 10k km and it still have more than 3TBN (generally, additives, including detergents) remaining on all samples i sent.
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No offence mate - but comparing yourself vs those real racing cars is a completely different story! Unless you tell me you were cornering at ridiculous speeds heel-toeing all the way and constantly keeping the revs high for 15 minutes you're not on the same level man!

But still 10k km wtih 2 track days is pretty impressive to still have 3TBN. Is 300V considered Motuls racing range?
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post Jan 6 2016, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Jan 6 2016, 01:56 PM)
No offence mate - but comparing yourself vs those real racing cars is a completely different story! Unless you tell me you were cornering at ridiculous speeds heel-toeing all the way and constantly keeping the revs high for 15 minutes you're not on the same level man!

But still 10k km wtih 2 track days is pretty impressive to still have 3TBN. Is 300V considered Motuls racing range?
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no offense taken biggrin.gif
but you have to also realize i've been in 4 hours straight track days, with each run having an average of 8-10+ laps straight (some math, since my car slow ma, per lap more than 3 minutes... 10 laps = ~30 minutes right?), red lines are pretty constant since our gear ratio is a joke on the track when it involves second gear lol

but no la i dont red line all the time since my power band is between 4.5-5.5k and no reason to hold a red line/lower gear (again, our gear ratio lol) unless i am heel toe downshifting into a corner.
i generally use gear 3 and 4 only, never 5, and gear 2 for turn 1, 2, sometimes 4, 9, sometimes 14, 15.
gear 2 will spike my rpm between 6.5-7.5k
my rev is limited to 7k and it wont upset/bother the car so long it is just a blip aka rev matching and no further revving beyond 7k

if that is not convincing enough, my peak oil temp is 129 Celsius and oil pressure is between 100-130psi on the red lines.

and i thought my reports were all "OMG THERES WEAR YOUR ENGINE IS DYING" if you ever show them to BITOG forum fanatics lol.

yes, ~10k km, 2 track days, 3 TBN.
300v is motul's top of the line/best/highest end racing range, NOT API, JASO, or ACEA certified.

i would assume, maintaining engine cleanliness in racing engines/teams are also among motul's top priorities. (which is in their advertisement as well iinm)
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post Jan 6 2016, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 6 2016, 03:53 PM)
no offense taken biggrin.gif
but you have to also realize i've been in 4 hours straight track days, with each run having an average of 8-10+ laps straight (some math, since my car slow ma, per lap more than 3 minutes... 10 laps = ~30 minutes right?), red lines are pretty constant since our gear ratio is a joke on the track when it involves second gear lol

but no la i dont red line all the time since my power band is between 4.5-5.5k and no reason to hold a red line/lower gear (again, our gear ratio lol) unless i am heel toe downshifting into a corner.
i generally use gear 3 and 4 only, never 5, and gear 2 for turn 1, 2, sometimes 4, 9, sometimes 14, 15.
gear 2 will spike my rpm between 6.5-7.5k
my rev is limited to 7k and it wont upset/bother the car so long it is just a blip aka rev matching and no further revving beyond 7k

if that is not convincing enough, my peak oil temp is 129 Celsius and oil pressure is between 100-130psi on the red lines.

and i thought my reports were all "OMG THERES WEAR YOUR ENGINE IS DYING" if you ever show them to BITOG forum fanatics lol.

yes, ~10k km, 2 track days, 3 TBN.
300v is motul's top of the line/best/highest end racing range, NOT API, JASO, or ACEA certified.

i would assume, maintaining engine cleanliness in racing engines/teams are also among motul's top priorities. (which is in their advertisement as well iinm)
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Hi bro, 129 celcius considered high is it?
I assume u use oil cooler? since I read "track" biggrin.gif
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post Jan 6 2016, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Jan 6 2016, 05:22 PM)
Hi bro, 129 celcius considered high is it?
I assume u use oil cooler? since I read "track"  biggrin.gif
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i asked around, most comments i got was somewhere along the line of "you waiting to change engine is it?"

and no, i don't use an oil cooler even though i brought the car to Sepang track days.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 6 2016, 06:24 PM)
i asked around, most comments i got was somewhere along the line of "you waiting to change engine is it?"

and no, i don't use an oil cooler even though i brought the car to Sepang track days.
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Wow, straight answer for that..
wah, without oil cooler and nothing happens to your engine? thumbup.gif

if I have the budget, will try that oil, the price tag is.. I cannot reach.. tongue.gif
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post Jan 6 2016, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(g9000z @ Jan 6 2016, 06:15 PM)
Wow, straight answer for that..
wah, without oil cooler and nothing happens to your engine?  thumbup.gif

if I have the budget, will try that oil, the price tag is.. I cannot reach..  tongue.gif
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got, my engine registered higher wear than normal from used oil analysis, however not at alarming/levels that would require extra attention, considering the application/usage of said engine.

while it's not "right" to say "oh you whack your engine so you get more wear is normal", it generally is the case and it also coincides with the feedback i get from the blackstone lab folks since like most people, i was worried on my wear levels too and kept showering them with "is it ok" questions.

they do however recommend me to run my oil on shorter intervals, which i did not since i was following proton service center intervals.
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post Jan 7 2016, 06:30 PM

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Personally, I think oil coolers are unnecessary unless you track your car often. Having the cooler means the engine oil takes longer to reach optimum temp, cold wear and tear man. Bad shit.

129 deg C for track day is kinda high. I wouldn't push it past 140 deg C.
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post Jan 7 2016, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Jan 7 2016, 06:30 PM)
Personally, I think oil coolers are unnecessary unless you track your car often. Having the cooler means the engine oil takes longer to reach optimum temp, cold wear and tear man. Bad shit.

129 deg C for track day is kinda high. I wouldn't push it past 140 deg C.
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thats why i didnt install one biggrin.gif
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Hey guys currently my myvi i using idemitsu Extreme Eco 5w30 FS, but feel like trying other oil tongue.gif I have on my mind now Liqui Moly Mos2 10w30 it is consider a downgrade? laugh.gif The Mos2 addictive like very ons. budget around 200-210 +- laugh.gif

Spec for idemitsu Extreme Eco FS Sm/CF

Idemitsu spec sheet

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post Jan 9 2016, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(chew3344 @ Jan 9 2016, 06:40 PM)
Hey guys currently my myvi i using idemitsu Extreme Eco 5w30 FS, but feel like trying other oil  tongue.gif  I have on my mind now Liqui Moly Mos2 10w30 it is consider a downgrade?  laugh.gif The Mos2 addictive like very ons.  budget around 200-210 +-  laugh.gif

Spec for idemitsu Extreme Eco FS Sm/CF

Idemitsu spec sheet
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personally i think its a downgrade
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post Jan 10 2016, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 6 2016, 05:24 PM)
i asked around, most comments i got was somewhere along the line of "you waiting to change engine is it?"

and no, i don't use an oil cooler even though i brought the car to Sepang track days.
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engine oil 129'c already consider high?
used to seen the meter pointing at 130'c when dragging on 3rd gear, which is only mid-point, max is 170'c. so i guess 130's is still normal. that time i still remember using some mineral 20w50 oil.

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 9 2016, 07:14 PM)
personally i think its a downgrade
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Me too.
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post Jan 10 2016, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 10 2016, 09:49 PM)
engine oil 129'c already consider high?
used to seen the meter pointing at 130'c when dragging on 3rd gear, which is only mid-point, max is 170'c. so i guess 130's is still normal. that time i still remember using some mineral 20w50 oil.
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thats what others tell me la... if thats not high, all the better! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 11 2016, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(chew3344 @ Jan 9 2016, 07:40 PM)
Hey guys currently my myvi i using idemitsu Extreme Eco 5w30 FS, but feel like trying other oil  tongue.gif  I have on my mind now Liqui Moly Mos2 10w30 it is consider a downgrade?  laugh.gif The Mos2 addictive like very ons.  budget around 200-210 +-  laugh.gif

Spec for idemitsu Extreme Eco FS Sm/CF

Idemitsu spec sheet
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u can get prenty of premium lube with around rm210 of budget, such as Royal purple HPS 5W30, Mobil1 5W30 Extended performance, Castrol Edge Extended performance 5W30, Redline 5W30, ect ect.
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Quazacolt, want to try this :

https://www.motul.com/sg/en/products/oils-l...v-sprint-0w15?f[range]=25&f[viscosity]=622

Singapore ada jual biggrin.gif
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post Jan 11 2016, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jan 11 2016, 01:19 PM)
Quazacolt, want to try this :

https://www.motul.com/sg/en/products/oils-l...v-sprint-0w15?f[range]=25&f[viscosity]=622

Singapore ada jual biggrin.gif
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i think i've posted before, and last i emailed them, they dont bring it in, have to custom order at really stupid pricing, then theres *3 for SGD.
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post Jan 12 2016, 10:21 AM

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has been using LM MoS2 10-40 Semi for 2 bottles already, proton persona...planning to change to better EO on next service, normally use for daily commute and sometimes weekend on highways, which is more suitable? please recommend me all sifuss notworthy.gif

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