Hmm proper mounting and minor vibration, still the thermal paste is not a significant contributor... the only significant contributor here is the contact...between the core and the cooler:) And if there is any form of vibration, it would not affect normal comp users, but in high performance or overclocking. Vibration by fans can be annoying. My verdict, passive cooling with a copper core and aluminium fins.

like i say just now..help abit,not significant

This is wat happens when senior members are taking too seriously in facts worrying that newbies might misunderstood...well, to a large forum with so many forumers like lyn, i'm sure someone will point out the mistake and all it takes is to edit the wrong fact... lolhalol might be just trying to point out the wrong fact...its just that he sounded in the wrong way which led to all the misunderstanding
yea... maybe thats the culprit behind the whole misunderstanding

So chill and continue to serve this forum to make it a better place for the newbies... we appreciate both of your efforts very much

I'm being fair by saying he didn't imply it.

He's right, vibration can kill contact which in turn results in higher temps, not by alot, but still, it exists, and it does disturb the channels and filling created by thermal paste. About the X38, he is also correct, as you get more surface area, force is distributed more evenly and thus there's less disturbance across a higher area. Newton's law at work (what i believe he's trying to imply). That's why even though newton's law dictates that for every force there is an equal and opposite force, a man can fire a .50 BMG without getting his arm ripped off, because the acting surfact area for recoil transfer is that much higher, although the kenetic force is still the same. Note that this applies to 2 solid bodies assuming linear oscillation.

Point is that I win.

Anyone who wants to lawan can take it up with Pak Cik Fourier

I do agree with what empire23 has said about the first few sentences, but hmm using newtons third law as a point of reference is probably not the right analogy to use.... because if you are working on newtonian dynamics to explain heat transfer then heat that hits on the copper sink should bounce back to the NB die, now thats third law of newtonian dynamics on heat transfer. You should use the principles of thermodynamics or the principles of heat transfer between metal composites.. i would suggest as reference, i might be wrong.. but newtons laws are quite clear cut.

This post has been edited by a1098113: Aug 15 2007, 10:47 PM

I think you misunderstood me, the newtonian law is there to explain the force of vibration upon a surface and the resulting resonance, not for temperature, a same amount of force on 2 surfaces, one bigger than the other is obviously going to result in the bigger surface experiencing less disturbance or a lower magnitude of resonance across it's surface. Mechanical resonance results in surface contact irregularity which thus affects thermal transfer. Think of a coin flat on a copper plate and another being subjected to vibration, which one has better thermal transfer due to constant contact.

I think the laws of heat transfer via Fourier (that's why i mentioned him at the end) function are pretty much discreet and self explanatory, you don't need newtonian mechanics here for thermal energy alone, but you do need it to explain vibrations tho.

bro im not lawan uncel newton and fourier , but waht shawty said bout the x38 wasnt all about the vibration,.. it was that he stated that it is the x38 is the nly chipset in the world to have ihs, and thats where the whole thing started... from what i can deduce or analyse, both of us have misunderstood each other... ...


btw i like the way u use laws of physics to show ur points...as im also use to study physics... especial thermphysics.. and fluids...

Again with the X38 chipset.

No matter how many times i repeat the same thing again and again you won't understand it do ya?

Go here & read it:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=12866714

That's my last explanation to you about the whole thing i'm talking about.
If you can't understand simple english, then i don't know what to say to you anymore.

I grow tired of explaining the same thing over and over again to you.

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Aug 16 2007, 11:12 AM

bro i wasnt repeating to u... u dun no how to read kah? im telling empire23 , with nothing to do with u... if i was talkng to u , y would i quote his post and not urz.?

Okay then, now mind accepting your mistake about the vibrations?

And mind pulling back your words that i'm implying the vibrations will kill the nb chipset when i did not say that?
Find anyone here that agrees with you about me implying that vibrations will kill the nb chipset, no one said that i did imply that vibrations will kill nb hsf except you.

See either you're willing to accept your mistake or not.

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Aug 16 2007, 12:02 PM

yes im willing to accept my mistake of misunderstanding ur posts.......... but will stand by the point ( not saying u said this now ..... happy????) that vibration if it happens CAN kill chipsets... and this is settle.... so we can now all move on and go back to discussion on chipsets....

lol both of this guy don wan to loose lioa i have nothing to say...
nvm lar since it was men ego lar

Thank You.
Appreciate That.

yeah.... happy family is back finally.... hahahaha... ok guys, let's keep on going on the chipset cooling...

will it be easier to install hsf or nb block on x38 since it has an ihs (bigger contact area)... i mean i'm those that not very patient guy that wish everything just 1 shot done n not redo... so i just slap it on n wish it's almost perfect... lol...

when i install my nb block on my 975, i found it that i have to tighten them down to the chipset slowly so that i won't cause uneven contact or tilted the base of the block...

i think he was pretty clear on him saying that the X38 is the first with the IHS lah. Settle loh.

Other chips have never had IHSes but ceramic packages, which is abit different lah, which is understandable.

Just a small misunderstanding. Cheers

Anyways i just installed 2 HR-05s and 2 HR-09s on my P5N32-E SLI , very nice improvement. Still trying to work out the voltage controller schematics for a Vmod and Stability mod.

yeah understood...

nice man.... im still a big fan of the hr- series ... i mu minf ill still buy hr-05 over the u6... irangan dun kill me ya...

any forumer here using Noctua NC-U6 on the same chipset used by Big Bruin (nForce 4 SLI)

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Aug 22 2007, 08:08 PM

ok, now that u guys have stopped arguing
i want to ask, what is a good p35 NB cooler without it being excessively large and ridiculously expensive

How about this?
Evercool Serpent...but it has poor reviews.

That's because that chipset heatsink is a poorly designed chipset cooler.
The heatpipes aren't connected well with the heatsink base.