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empire23
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 Aug 15 2007, 08:16 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Aug 14 2007, 03:37 PM) bro u were implying it ( damaged core) and im talking like this coz im getting sick of people not researching their claims first... this is what killing or forums... inconsistencies in facts leading to many newbies getting it wrong... im not saying all ur posts are not right.. its just this one post bout the x38 ihs... im notbeing harsh.. im being direct... what does teh rm 100 got to do with anything?? I'm being fair by saying he didn't imply it. He's right, vibration can kill contact which in turn results in higher temps, not by alot, but still, it exists, and it does disturb the channels and filling created by thermal paste. About the X38, he is also correct, as you get more surface area, force is distributed more evenly and thus there's less disturbance across a higher area. Newton's law at work (what i believe he's trying to imply). That's why even though newton's law dictates that for every force there is an equal and opposite force, a man can fire a .50 BMG without getting his arm ripped off, because the acting surfact area for recoil transfer is that much higher, although the kenetic force is still the same. Note that this applies to 2 solid bodies assuming linear oscillation. Point is that I win. Anyone who wants to lawan can take it up with Pak Cik Fourier  |
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empire23
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Aug 15 2007, 11:12 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Aug 15 2007, 10:45 PM) I do agree with what empire23 has said about the first few sentences, but hmm using newtons third law as a point of reference is probably not the right analogy to use.... because if you are working on newtonian dynamics to explain heat transfer then heat that hits on the copper sink should bounce back to the NB die, now thats third law of newtonian dynamics on heat transfer. You should use the principles of thermodynamics or the principles of heat transfer between metal composites.. i would suggest as reference, i might be wrong.. but newtons laws are quite clear cut. I think you misunderstood me, the newtonian law is there to explain the force of vibration upon a surface and the resulting resonance, not for temperature, a same amount of force on 2 surfaces, one bigger than the other is obviously going to result in the bigger surface experiencing less disturbance or a lower magnitude of resonance across it's surface. Mechanical resonance results in surface contact irregularity which thus affects thermal transfer. Think of a coin flat on a copper plate and another being subjected to vibration, which one has better thermal transfer due to constant contact. I think the laws of heat transfer via Fourier (that's why i mentioned him at the end) function are pretty much discreet and self explanatory, you don't need newtonian mechanics here for thermal energy alone, but you do need it to explain vibrations tho. |
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empire23
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Aug 16 2007, 05:34 PM
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Team Island Hopper
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QUOTE(lolhalol @ Aug 16 2007, 10:41 AM) bro im not lawan uncel newton and fourier , but waht shawty said bout the x38 wasnt all about the vibration,.. it was that he stated that it is the x38 is the nly chipset in the world to have ihs, and thats where the whole thing started... from what i can deduce or analyse, both of us have misunderstood each other... ... i think he was pretty clear on him saying that the X38 is the first with the IHS lah. Settle loh. Other chips have never had IHSes but ceramic packages, which is abit different lah, which is understandable.  Just a small misunderstanding. Cheers Anyways i just installed 2 HR-05s and 2 HR-09s on my P5N32-E SLI  , very nice improvement. Still trying to work out the voltage controller schematics for a Vmod and Stability mod. |
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