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post Mar 2 2007, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Mar 2 2007, 01:21 AM)
ur right, but dont see any other full copper ones available locally...the good ones all hv to order frm overseas, and hv to go thru the waiting process again
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dont necessarily need copper to do it ler... i mean if the manufacturer is confident enough in their product to NOT include heatsinks on the chips then alu oso should be enough....

but for the sake of NTBD ive thought of 2 options...

1/ get one of these heatsinks from uglyvamp. id personally either use the TSOP or BGA. and they come with 3M Thermal tapes too thumbup.gif

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2/ find an old processor heatsink that is long enough to cover ALL the chips AND go over the holes... cut it to size...and drill holes aligned with the holes on the mobo. then use pushpins to secure it. this way u can use normal TIMs and remove it easily in case u need to. only negative i see by going this route other than the lotsa work, would be that the fins may be too tall to fit any aftermarket heatsinks like the thermalright XP/SI series. some tower heatsinks may be useable though.

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post Mar 2 2007, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Mar 2 2007, 01:54 AM)
1/ get one of these heatsinks from uglyvamp. id personally either use the TSOP or BGA. and they come with 3M Thermal tapes too thumbup.gif

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I'd choose the TSOP. smile.gif
The base thickness is good, the fins are high and thin too...

This will greatly help reducing the temps. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 2 2007, 07:33 PM

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thx for the explanation guys....wanna ask are those heatsinks applicable for cooling these as well...the mosfets

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post Mar 2 2007, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Mar 2 2007, 07:33 PM)
thx for the explanation guys....wanna ask are those heatsinks applicable for cooling these as well...the mosfets

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Refer here

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 2 2007, 02:56 AM)
I'd choose the TSOP. smile.gif
The base thickness is good, the fins are high and thin too...

This will greatly help reducing the temps. thumbup.gif
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agreed....but only because its tall.... i have both those heatsinks and the fins are thick. definitely thicker than any cpu/GC/ chipset heatsink ive seen.

the BGA has much thinner fins than the TSOP and theyre nicely spread out. only thing is that its considerably shorter.

QUOTE(cablesguy @ Mar 2 2007, 07:33 PM)
thx for the explanation guys....wanna ask are those heatsinks applicable for cooling these as well...the mosfets

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definitely. ANY of those heatsinks will help cool ur mosfets.
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post Mar 2 2007, 11:17 PM

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totally forgot abt that link, my bad, anyway daze is temporarily not bulking, so just hv to wait, the tsop does look like it can do the job...too bad its not in copper


got another question to the sifu's....what u all think abt this..... swiftech mc14

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Performance and specifications.
Forged C110 copper

14mm (L) x 14mm (W) x 14.5mm (H)
Weight: 0.3 oz (8.5 g)
C/W: 9.0 (including TIM joint)
Maximum recommended heat load: 5 Watts per heatsink


and what do they mean by "5 Watts per heatsink" ??

thx in advance

sorry for the numerous ??, just got this thng abt cooling and getting it right



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post Mar 6 2007, 09:13 PM

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Hi,

I am wondering, there are some mobos that only come with one chipset heatsink while there are some that comes with 2.What are the difference?Is that what we call northbridge and southbridge if there is 2 of those heatsink there?This is because i am using a gigabyte mobo now that only have one chipset heatsink but i have seen some pictures of DFI mobos that comes with 2.Is there any difference and should i be using 2 aftermarket chipset cooler or i can leave one of them using the stock one?Thanks...
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QUOTE(akachester @ Mar 6 2007, 09:13 PM)
Hi,

I am wondering, there are some mobos that only come with one chipset heatsink while there are some that comes with 2.What are the difference?Is that what we call northbridge and southbridge if there is 2 of those heatsink there?This is because i am using a gigabyte mobo now that only have one chipset heatsink but i have seen some pictures of DFI mobos that comes with 2.Is there any difference and should i be using 2 aftermarket chipset cooler or i can leave one of them using the stock one?Thanks...
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northbridge & southbridge, all mobo must have a northbirdge heatsink. the southbridge, depends la, some mobo got, some mobo don't...

what's the difference, nothing, just one got heatsink & another don't, that's all laugh.gif

u can leave the southbridge using the stock heatsink nod.gif
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Mar 7 2007, 08:33 AM)
northbridge & southbridge, all mobo must have a northbirdge heatsink. the southbridge, depends la, some mobo got, some mobo don't...

what's the difference, nothing, just one got heatsink & another don't, that's all laugh.gif

u can leave the southbridge using the stock heatsink nod.gif
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if im not wrong, the northbridge produces more heat. thus it needs a bigger hsf to facilitate the amount of heat released smile.gif
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Mar 7 2007, 04:13 PM)
if im not wrong, the northbridge produces more heat. thus it needs a bigger hsf to facilitate the amount of heat released smile.gif
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O..ok.Does this mean that it is not neccessary to change the stock HSF on the southbridge even though i am into OCing compared to the northbridge?I only have a NB cooler rite now and still considering whether it is necessary to get another for the SB.
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QUOTE(akachester @ Mar 7 2007, 06:49 PM)
O..ok.Does this mean that it is not neccessary to change the stock HSF on the southbridge even though i am into OCing compared to the northbridge?I only have a NB cooler rite now and still considering whether it is necessary to get another for the SB.
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i dont think u have to change it, but maybe u can put a fan over hit
many northbridge hsf's normally cant fit in due to the HSF being to tall and such smile.gif
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QUOTE(DaRkSyThE @ Mar 7 2007, 04:13 PM)
if im not wrong, the northbridge produces more heat. thus it needs a bigger hsf to facilitate the amount of heat released smile.gif
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yup, if u are into OCing, better change the stock heatsink, if not into OCing, can use the stock one as the manufacturer is confident enough in their product to use only the stock heatsink...

makes me wonder how giga silent pipe perform???

QUOTE(akachester @ Mar 7 2007, 06:49 PM)
O..ok.Does this mean that it is not neccessary to change the stock HSF on the southbridge even though i am into OCing compared to the northbridge?I only have a NB cooler rite now and still considering whether it is necessary to get another for the SB.
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if i'm not mistaken, even u're into OCing, not need to change the southbridge laugh.gif it ain't gonna get hot like northbridge, hell, all heatsink outhere are made for northbridge, if u rajin, find a southbridge cooler, all of them like the stock heatsink, no one makes heatpipe tech for southbridge like northbirdge nod.gif
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QUOTE(akachester @ Mar 7 2007, 06:49 PM)
O..ok.Does this mean that it is not neccessary to change the stock HSF on the southbridge even though i am into OCing compared to the northbridge?I only have a NB cooler rite now and still considering whether it is necessary to get another for the SB.
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the other thing you need to consider is whether there is any hole for push pin or any mounting method before you purchase any SB cooler...if not, end up the cooler is wasted... doh.gif
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Ok.Thanks for the information.I guess there aint any need for SB cooler after all.I will try to search for a better NB cooler than my current Zalman flower.Would an ATI Xfire 3200 chipset be producing the same amount of heat as the NF4 SLI chipset under the same condition?

And i would like to know is it possible to get the TR HR05/05SLI at LYP and what price it will be?The HR05SLI should be able to fit most mobos rite(i mean particularly DFI mobos)?

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post Mar 7 2007, 11:28 PM

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Testing platform
Onboard VIA C3 Samual 2 processor. [LINK]
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My Heatsink Family tongue.gif
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Essential tool/accessories
all chipset cooler mounted by jingting mounting tool
2 fans which is evercool and pccooler
2 thermal probe with lcd
edited:forgot to add AS5.. laugh.gif

lets start
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Added on March 7, 2007, 11:35 pmhttp://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8360/untitleden0.jpg
Table of idle,load and ambient temperature

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edited:all load temp is after stress after 5 mins by sp2004 wink.gif

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QUOTE(coolice @ Mar 7 2007, 11:28 PM)

Essential tool/accessories
all chipset cooler mounted by jingting mounting tool
2 fans which is evercool and pccooler
2 thermal probe with lcd

lets start

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So the PCCooler is the winner eyh? wub.gif
I know it's the best just by looking at the design.

If not because of the heatpipe touching the chipset die directly, it won't perform this good.

Seriously, the PCCooler is the best.

Wanna know why?
Ok, i'll explain.
You see that the noctua NC-U6 is "naib johan" laugh.gif

But think again about the design of the NC-U6 and the PCCooler HS777 chipset heatsink.

The NC-U6 uses two heatpipes while the PCCooler Chipset heatsink uses only one heatpipe.

You see there eventhough PCCooler Chipset heatsink is using only one heatpipe, it works better than the NC-U6 that utilize two heatpipes. thumbup.gif

Only one thing about the PCCooler chipset heatsink though.

The price. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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nope..noctua is the winner.. wink.gif
as for the price of pccooler hb-771s,RM80 ait high,i felt the material kinda cheapskate,the fin abit soft,bent easily but it did a really good job on the heatpipe at the base,when comes to using evercool fan,its beat hr-05

and one thing i realised after this comparison is,heatpipe does work very well when full load,it dissipate the heat faster than non-heatpipe cooler wink.gif
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QUOTE(coolice @ Mar 7 2007, 11:46 PM)
nope..noctua is the winner.. wink.gif
as for the price of pccooler hb-771s,RM80 ait high,i felt the material kinda cheapskate,the fin abit soft,bent easily but it did a really good job on the heatpipe at the base,when comes to using evercool fan,its beat hr-05

and one thing i realised after this comparison is,heatpipe does work very well when full load,it dissipate the heat faster than non-heatpipe cooler wink.gif
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RM80? sweat.gif
Uglyvamp told me the price for the PCCooler chipset heatsink is RM105 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Mar 2 2007, 11:17 PM)
totally forgot abt that link, my bad, anyway daze is temporarily not bulking, so just hv to wait, the tsop does look like it can do the job...too bad its not in copper
got another question to the sifu's....what u all think abt this..... swiftech mc14

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Performance and specifications.
Forged C110 copper

14mm (L) x 14mm (W) x 14.5mm (H)
Weight: 0.3 oz (8.5 g)
C/W: 9.0 (including TIM joint)
Maximum recommended heat load: 5 Watts per heatsink
and what do they mean by "5 Watts per heatsink" ??

thx in advance

sorry for the numerous ??, just got this thng abt cooling and getting it right
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I guess 5w should be
it able to dissipate heat at 5 joule/second.
The higher the value, the better the heatsink is.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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post Mar 8 2007, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(coolice @ Mar 7 2007, 11:46 PM)
nope..noctua is the winner.. wink.gif
as for the price of pccooler hb-771s,RM80 ait high,i felt the material kinda cheapskate,the fin abit soft,bent easily but it did a really good job on the heatpipe at the base,when comes to using evercool fan,its beat hr-05

and one thing i realised after this comparison is,heatpipe does work very well when full load,it dissipate the heat faster than non-heatpipe cooler wink.gif
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haha..may be he quota me special price gua hmm.gif

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