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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V60, From A to E mount!

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post Jul 26 2014, 09:44 AM

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oooo. so both A mount & E mount now combined thumbup.gif
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post Jul 26 2014, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 26 2014, 07:47 AM)
Dof and fov does not correlate that way. Though by general rule, any lens will have a shallower dof if subject is moved closer to camera.
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sry, i not so good in describe this. maybe u can help me tell our friend the difference in between 35mm and 50mm? tongue.gif
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post Jul 26 2014, 10:33 AM

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There's what I think:
Field of View is how wide you'll able to see, in relation to angle.
Depth of Field is the focus pane/thickness, relates to distance of subject.

Or you can just look through the lens of these 2.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 26 2014, 09:44 AM)
oooo. so both A mount & E mount now combined thumbup.gif
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OH, for those who doesnt know, the Nex thread and Alpha Thread has merged into one big family now. (i know most of us open 2 tab of the seperate threads, now we can view them as one.) and since the NEX name as been removed from the Sony Alpha naming scheme and put the mirrorless under Alpha, one big family. so let make this thread more active~ smile.gif

QUOTE(bdrc @ Jul 26 2014, 10:33 AM)
There's what I think:
Field of View is how wide you'll able to see, in relation to angle.
Depth of Field is the focus pane/thickness, relates to distance of subject.

Or you can just look through the lens of these 2.
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generally thats correct~

there is one more called angle of view.

i know how to works but i dont know how to explain it, but i try

35mm on APSC and 35mm on FF has the SAME angle of view but a diff Field of view
35mm on APSC and 52.5mm on FF has the SAME Field of View, but a diff angle of view.


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post Jul 27 2014, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(haki @ Jul 25 2014, 10:51 AM)
just order one biggrin.gif
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get ur lenses ady? the promo only last until end of this month
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post Jul 27 2014, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(haki @ Jul 25 2014, 09:16 PM)
need suggestion about uv filter for sel 50mm..
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Hoya HMC, Zeiss, B+W?
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post Jul 27 2014, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jul 27 2014, 12:10 AM)
get ur lenses ady? the promo only last until end of this month
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not yet bro...mybe next week..still pending for postage..
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QUOTE(edpaul @ Jul 26 2014, 10:19 PM)

35mm on APSC and 35mm on FF has the SAME angle of view but a diff Field of view
35mm on APSC and 52.5mm on FF has the SAME Field of View, but a diff angle of view.
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Hmm... I think article here got show how the field of view and angle differs in aps-c and FF, note the 15mm on FF and 12mm on aps-c: (you can ignore the rest of the review on lens)
http://www.lenstip.com/311.1-Lens_review-C...isheye_USM.html

and extra for those who might interested to read:
http://photographylife.com/equivalent-foca...d-field-of-view
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLet...les-of-View.jsp


Anyway, today is my 1 year anniversary with my NEX-6 and started shooting photos ever since.

Put up my latest photo here and celebrate,
shot with NEX-6 & Vivitar 135mm f/2.8

user posted imageDSC00422 by bdrc, on Flickr

user posted imageDSC00452 by bdrc, on Flickr


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QUOTE(bdrc @ Jul 27 2014, 10:00 AM)
Hmm... I think article here got show how the field of view and angle differs in aps-c and FF, note the 15mm on FF and 12mm on aps-c: (you can ignore the rest of the review on lens)
http://www.lenstip.com/311.1-Lens_review-C...isheye_USM.html

and extra for those who might interested to read:
http://photographylife.com/equivalent-foca...d-field-of-view
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLet...les-of-View.jsp
Anyway, today is my 1 year anniversary with my NEX-6 and started shooting photos ever since.

Put up my latest photo here and celebrate,
shot with NEX-6 & Vivitar 135mm f/2.8 

user posted imageDSC00422 by bdrc, on Flickr

user posted imageDSC00452 by bdrc, on Flickr
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wahhh the bokeh rclxub.gif time to get 135mm Zeiss icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 27 2014, 06:38 PM

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this time sony fair at low yat plaza not as hot as last year. last year a lot of special promo, like A77 FOC VG, NEX-5R FOC EVF...
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QUOTE(bdrc @ Jul 27 2014, 10:00 AM)
Hmm... I think article here got show how the field of view and angle differs in aps-c and FF, note the 15mm on FF and 12mm on aps-c: (you can ignore the rest of the review on lens)
http://www.lenstip.com/311.1-Lens_review-C...isheye_USM.html

and extra for those who might interested to read:
http://photographylife.com/equivalent-foca...d-field-of-view
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLet...les-of-View.jsp
Anyway, today is my 1 year anniversary with my NEX-6 and started shooting photos ever since.

Put up my latest photo here and celebrate,
shot with NEX-6 & Vivitar 135mm f/2.8 

user posted imageDSC00422 by bdrc, on Flickr

user posted imageDSC00452 by bdrc, on Flickr
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Nice photos but the bokeh kinda distracting icon_rolleyes.gif
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I just bought my A6000 from the sony fair at lowyat. Bought it at one shop at the ground floor, I think it's fotokem.

Got myself the A6000 with kit lens + sony 16GB class 10 memory card. Free items from fotokem include the small blue camera pouch, a camera cleaner kit, and lcd screen protector for a total cost of RM 2400.

From the fair, Sony malaysia gave me one extra battery, another pouch, but it's actually meant for handycam, so not suitable for A6000 (where i think the pouch is useless), and a body case for A6000 which I have yet to collect as they have run out of stock today. Also, sony malaysia upgraded the warranty for my camera with kit lens to 3 years warranty. That is the fair promotion.

Also, I bought a prime lens SEL35F18 for RM 1k. But this has the normal Sony 1 year 3 months warranty.

I think I got a pretty good deal for this. However, the sales person sweet talk me into buying lens filter. I bought two lens filter, one for the kit lens SELP1650 and one for the SEL35F18. Each lens filter cost RM100. So total RM200 for the lens filter from this brand Steinzeiser (DMC UV 40.5mm and DMC UV 49mm). Have I overpaid for the lens filter?

Once back home, now I am charging up the battery. 2 complaints:

1. Why do I charge battery by connecting the cables to the camera? Panasonic has an external battery charger where I just stick my battery to the module.

2. How do I know when the battery is fully charged? I see a yellow light at the side of the camera body. It's been 4 hours since I charged and it's still yellow. Does it take so long to charge or only the first time?
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 27 2014, 10:31 PM)
I just bought my A6000 from the sony fair at lowyat.  Bought it at one shop at the ground floor, I think it's fotokem. 

Got myself the A6000 with kit lens + sony 16GB class 10 memory card.  Free items from fotokem include the small blue camera pouch, a camera cleaner kit, and lcd screen protector for a total cost of RM 2400.

From the fair, Sony malaysia gave me one extra battery, another pouch, but it's actually meant for handycam, so not suitable for A6000 (where i think the pouch is useless), and a body case for A6000 which I have yet to collect as they have run out of stock today.  Also, sony malaysia upgraded the warranty for my camera with kit lens to 3 years warranty.  That is the fair promotion.

Also, I bought a prime lens SEL35F18 for RM 1k.  But this has the normal Sony 1 year 3 months warranty.

I think I got a pretty good deal for this.  However, the sales person sweet talk me into buying lens filter.  I bought two lens filter, one for the kit lens SELP1650 and one for the SEL35F18.  Each lens filter cost RM100.  So total RM200 for the lens filter from this brand Steinzeiser (DMC UV 40.5mm and DMC UV 49mm).  Have I overpaid for the lens filter?

Once back home, now I am charging up the battery.  2 complaints:

1.  Why do I charge battery by connecting the cables to the camera?  Panasonic has an external battery charger where I just stick my battery to the module.

2.  How do I know when the battery is fully charged?  I see a yellow light at the side of the camera body.  It's been 4 hours since I charged and it's still yellow.  Does it take so long to charge or only the first time?
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Firstly there is no more first charge logic. Salesman who still asks you to do so needs to be educated more. Yellow light will go off once fully charged.
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post Jul 28 2014, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 27 2014, 10:31 PM)
I just bought my A6000 from the sony fair at lowyat.  Bought it at one shop at the ground floor, I think it's fotokem. 

Got myself the A6000 with kit lens + sony 16GB class 10 memory card.  Free items from fotokem include the small blue camera pouch, a camera cleaner kit, and lcd screen protector for a total cost of RM 2400.

From the fair, Sony malaysia gave me one extra battery, another pouch, but it's actually meant for handycam, so not suitable for A6000 (where i think the pouch is useless), and a body case for A6000 which I have yet to collect as they have run out of stock today.  Also, sony malaysia upgraded the warranty for my camera with kit lens to 3 years warranty.  That is the fair promotion.

Also, I bought a prime lens SEL50F18 for RM 1k.  But this has the normal Sony 1 year 3 months warranty.

I think I got a pretty good deal for this.  However, the sales person sweet talk me into buying lens filter.  I bought two lens filter, one for the kit lens SELP1650 and one for the SEL35F18.  Each lens filter cost RM100.  So total RM200 for the lens filter from this brand Steinzeiser (DMC UV 40.5mm and DMC UV 49mm).  Have I overpaid for the lens filter?

Once back home, now I am charging up the battery.  2 complaints:

1.  Why do I charge battery by connecting the cables to the camera?  Panasonic has an external battery charger where I just stick my battery to the module.

2.  How do I know when the battery is fully charged?  I see a yellow light at the side of the camera body.  It's been 4 hours since I charged and it's still yellow.  Does it take so long to charge or only the first time?
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about filter, u need to know which level/grade u purchase. for what i know, steinzeiser is common brand, and got few types of UV filter, e.g. UV, MC UV, PRO1 MC, XS-PRO1 (correct me if i were wrong...). entry level UV filter around 50-80. but if even u know they sell it overprice, who knows? company want earn money

since 2012, sony camera never bundled with external charger. i'm always advice ppl go for external charger (original sony charger pricing about RM189). about USB charging, depends how u going to charge ur camera. if attach to the plug, usually 3 hours will full. if u charge with pc, will take longer time for full charge
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Sony SLT-A99V
17-35mm F2.8-4
ƒ/2.8 17.0 mm 1/5000 100

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Sony SLT-A99V
17-35mm F2.8-4
ƒ/8.0 17.0 mm 1/250 100

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user posted image
21Jul2014_0356 copy by william leong, on Flickr

Sony SLT-A99V
17-35mm F2.8-4
ƒ/8.0  17.0 mm 1/250  100
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 25 2014, 12:30 PM)
Guys, I am a total noob on photography.  Know nothing bout it, and my recent trip to bali, i took a point and shoot lumix along FT-4 along and found most pictures taken are bad, even my framing is bad.  Was at uluwatu taking pics, then a couple from swiss asked my helped to take pics for them using their dslr (not sure what it is), and they told me to just click as everything is auto.  Wow, the shot viewed from lcd was so good compared to mine.  So I am convinced i need to buy a better cam and more importantly learn how to shoot.

Walked into sony store as it has promotion now, and was attracted to the a6000.  Price with kit lens now is 2699.  Was thinking if i should buy the package with SEL50F18 where it's RM 3200.  I understand that is a prime lens right, without zoom.  Should be easier for a novice like me, one less function bout camera for me to worry about.   This camera will likely be use for travelling, taking pictures of ppl + scenery in it.  Do let me know what lens combo will suit me most.

Also is sony centre running the best promo or outside standalone camera shop has better offer?
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 27 2014, 10:31 PM)
I just bought my A6000 from the sony fair at lowyat.  Bought it at one shop at the ground floor, I think it's fotokem. 

Got myself the A6000 with kit lens + sony 16GB class 10 memory card.  Free items from fotokem include the small blue camera pouch, a camera cleaner kit, and lcd screen protector for a total cost of RM 2400.

From the fair, Sony malaysia gave me one extra battery, another pouch, but it's actually meant for handycam, so not suitable for A6000 (where i think the pouch is useless), and a body case for A6000 which I have yet to collect as they have run out of stock today.  Also, sony malaysia upgraded the warranty for my camera with kit lens to 3 years warranty.  That is the fair promotion.

Also, I bought a prime lens SEL35F18 for RM 1k.  But this has the normal Sony 1 year 3 months warranty.

I think I got a pretty good deal for this.  However, the sales person sweet talk me into buying lens filter.  I bought two lens filter, one for the kit lens SELP1650 and one for the SEL35F18.  Each lens filter cost RM100.  So total RM200 for the lens filter from this brand Steinzeiser (DMC UV 40.5mm and DMC UV 49mm).  Have I overpaid for the lens filter?

Once back home, now I am charging up the battery.  2 complaints:

1.  Why do I charge battery by connecting the cables to the camera?  Panasonic has an external battery charger where I just stick my battery to the module.

2.  How do I know when the battery is fully charged?  I see a yellow light at the side of the camera body.  It's been 4 hours since I charged and it's still yellow.  Does it take so long to charge or only the first time?
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just my opinion. if u prefer zoom lenses, A6000 + SEL18105G very suitable for ur style. furthermore, during fair, even my friend had bought these combo, included class10 16GB, screen protector, body case, extra battery, external charger, and Hoya Pro1D UV filter, total price around RM3800. as fair promises, the camera body entitled 3 years warranty by Sony Malaysia, meanwhile the lens entitled 12+3 months warranty. the FOC pouch looks just like a token, haha

anyway, if u happy with kit lens and the prime lens, don't need to care too much

This post has been edited by Leekarsing: Jul 28 2014, 04:08 AM
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QUOTE(lchee @ Jul 27 2014, 10:31 PM)
I just bought my A6000 from the sony fair at lowyat.  Bought it at one shop at the ground floor, I think it's fotokem. 

Got myself the A6000 with kit lens + sony 16GB class 10 memory card.  Free items from fotokem include the small blue camera pouch, a camera cleaner kit, and lcd screen protector for a total cost of RM 2400.

From the fair, Sony malaysia gave me one extra battery, another pouch, but it's actually meant for handycam, so not suitable for A6000 (where i think the pouch is useless), and a body case for A6000 which I have yet to collect as they have run out of stock today.  Also, sony malaysia upgraded the warranty for my camera with kit lens to 3 years warranty.  That is the fair promotion.

Also, I bought a prime lens SEL35F18 for RM 1k.  But this has the normal Sony 1 year 3 months warranty.

I think I got a pretty good deal for this.  However, the sales person sweet talk me into buying lens filter.  I bought two lens filter, one for the kit lens SELP1650 and one for the SEL35F18.  Each lens filter cost RM100.  So total RM200 for the lens filter from this brand Steinzeiser (DMC UV 40.5mm and DMC UV 49mm).  Have I overpaid for the lens filter?

Once back home, now I am charging up the battery.  2 complaints:

1.  Why do I charge battery by connecting the cables to the camera?  Panasonic has an external battery charger where I just stick my battery to the module.

2.  How do I know when the battery is fully charged?  I see a yellow light at the side of the camera body.  It's been 4 hours since I charged and it's still yellow.  Does it take so long to charge or only the first time?
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1. Sony is aiming to go really low for their camera price. hence they remove the unnecessary component like a external charger. (less thing to bring on traveling) a simple USB outlet and cable will do. it also will charge when you doing file transfer. the plus size, instead of spending 299rrp for a exra battery that's only 900mAh, you can easily buy a Mi 10k powerbank for less then 50myr and u still can charge it anytime anywhere.

2. on the camera it will write 100% then u know is fully charged.
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QUOTE(Leekarsing @ Jul 28 2014, 03:43 AM)
just my opinion. if u prefer zoom lenses, A6000 + SEL18105G very suitable for ur style. furthermore, during fair, even my friend had bought these combo, included class10 16GB, screen protector, body case, extra battery, external charger, and Hoya Pro1D UV filter, total price around RM3800. as fair promises, the camera body entitled 3 years warranty by Sony Malaysia, meanwhile the lens entitled 12+3 months warranty. the FOC pouch looks just like a token, haha

anyway, if u happy with kit lens and the prime lens, don't need to care too much
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The fair doesn't give 3 years warranty for both body and lens? I was told by the fair person it gives 3 years warranty for both, but I wasn't sure to believe her or not. When I heard free warranty 1+2 years, I almost felt like buying A6000 + SEL1670Z but decided i should not spend that much. The idea of additional warranty for the expensive lens seems worth it.

I agree, the FOC pouch seems like a token, totally no use at all. The fair value is in the extra battery, the body case and the extra 2 years warranty.

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