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CRUSADER
Akarat grants you mercy, for i will not.

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Crusaders are unbending champions of faith and law. These living fortresses use impenetrable plate and towering shields to wade through scores of foes, leaving demonic bodies smoldering in their wake.

The thick of battle is unforgiving, but crusaders rush in without hesitation, relying on holy magic and heavy armor to guarantee victory. Well-trained crusaders are adept at deflecting attacks entirely, often shrugging off massive blows that would fell lesser combatants. If pressed, they can sacrifice speed and mobility for pure staying power.

Bone-crunching flails and wicked shields are perfect for melee, but crusaders are hardly limited to extinguishing evil at close range. When one of these divinely empowered warriors joins battle, blazing fire and blinding light follow, smiting entire packs of enemies who dare to resist judgment.


BACKGROUND
The crusade calls me...so I go.

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The leaders of the harmonious Zakarum religion once strove to imprison Mephisto, Lord of Hatred, beneath Travincal temple, preventing him from ever twisting the hearts of humanity again.

They failed.

It was not the first time Zakarum had lapsed; 200 years prior, the cleric Akkhan noticed corruption at the heart of his faith, and sent his acolytes on a far-ranging quest to cleanse it. Akkhan’s “crusaders” were young recruits, chosen for honor and goodness, trained in weaponry and flesh-scouring magics, though their most important quality was unwavering devotion to duty.

Today, the crusaders’ focused quest for purity has broadened. Flimsy “containment” gives evil many opportunities to thrive, and wandering crusaders – often master and apprentice pairs – regularly strike down Sanctuary’s demons. Some fight out of righteousness; others in the hopes that their victories may make corrupt Zakarum whole again. When a crusader's master dies, their student takes up their weapons and their identity…and the crusade continues, even beyond death.


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Official resources/guides from battle.net:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/crusader/

Crusader short story, additional Lore from battle.net:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/lore/short-story/crusader/

Crusader skill calculator:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/crusader

Mannercookies Crusader thread:
http://www.diablofans.com/forums/diablo-ii...ormation-guides



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PS: i link mannercookie, because he seems to be at the forefront for crusader theorycrafting and he regular posts guides on his youtube explaining the Crusader builds and their viability. Although i agree with most of what he says, always reserve your own judgement and take what he says with a grain of salt like i do  smile.gif For example, although i used his shotgun build as reference, i modified it to use Indestructible instead of wrathful, which works better for me - Moogle



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LYN Crusader Hall of fame

1. yuhhaur - Founder of LYN Crusader thread
2. Ricgatebecko - Top paragorn Crusader in Malaysia (NON-seasonal) - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Barbabr...9/hero/49441090

3. Top paragon Crusader in Malaysia (SEASONAL) - ??????


4. Seasonal solo crusader grifting rankings

Grift 39, rank 38 - MoogleStiltzkin - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Moogle-6806/hero/51719731 - screenshot
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5. NON SEASONAL solo crusader grifting rankings
Grift lv40, rank 12 (now 18)9 - Ricgatebecko - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Barbabr...9/hero/49441090 - -
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Grift lv38 , rank 69 - cyborgr - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KongEng...6/hero/52608736 - source



6. 4player grift rankings
Grift lv 43, rank - Ricgatebecko
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7. seasonal achievements
rank 14, 73%, 5730 points - MoogleStiltzkin - source


8. non-seasonal achievements
99% achievements, 7290 points- MoogleStiltzkin - http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Moogle-6806/hero/43541921


*notes: the grift rankings is based on what you got at the time. So although your rank may have dropped since then, it's probably okay to leave old rank as long as that was the highest you got first, as long as you got proof to show your rank at the time. we could alternatively update ranking as it changes, but i don't have the time to keep updating that sweat.gif

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Crusader gear sets as of 2.0.5

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If you want to view the other set photo montages e.g. cain's, aughild's or even for other classes, you can see them here
http://www.diablofans.com/forums/diablo-ii...es-photomontage

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Top T6 builds for Crusader
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A lot of these are outdated, considering there is the new legendary gems that now require socketing both rings and amulet. Also the new phalanks and condemn builds. So although certain advice from previous builds are useful, i didn't want to confuse the readers by making it official guides for now. But if you can take grain with salt, you can check the spoiler for the archived builds to help give you some hints to make a workable build in 2.1
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In summary, the top builds in patch 2.1 are

1. condemn
2. phalanks

Shotgun is still viable, but in terms of potential, the other 2 mention are much nicer imho.



I don't have time to post builds here, but i did make an initial condemn and phalanks build for 2.1 which you can view here


condemn 2.1
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=70230402


phalanks 2.1
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...3243602&st=300#


You can also refer to this site to see the popular build and skill trends used by Crusaders
http://diablo.somepage.com/popular/crusader

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Top 10 useful Crusader gear


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Amulet:
- all the elemental amys e.g. mara's kaleidescope etc.....
- uber amulet

Rings:
- Stone of Jordan (best dmg ring for the crusader)
- Royal Grandeur (good if your low on full set, or if you want to use 1 piece not from the akkhan set but still get the bonuses)
- Unity (good for solo farming with a mercenary)
- Bulkhathos wedding bang (for firestarter builds)
- justice lantern (the only block chance ring)

Belt:
- witching hour (good dmg belt, the only one with a combination of CHD with IAS)
- harrington (high dmg potential if you click stuff, including corpses)
- string of ears (nice defensive belt. Not as nice as a dmg dealer belt though)
- vigilante belt (CDR)

Boots:
- phase boots (very good utility for positioning. Is awesome for many situations, but in most cases you'll require a RORG ring if you intend to use this without losing set bonus)
- ice climbers (not as useful now because champ of akkhan makes if immune to everything ... the only thing IC has going for it i guess is the reduced ice dmg modifier )
- fire walkers
- akkhan set

Gloves:
- akkhan set
- magi fists
- shrine gloves

pants:
- akkhan set
- pox faulds
- depth diggers

chest:
-akkhan set
- cindercoat

shoulder:
- akkhan set
- zakara

helm:
- akkhan set
- andariels visage
- mempo of twilight
- helm of rule (the only block chance helm)
- king leoric's crown (can boost effect of gem. especially useful for CDR)

bracer:
- reaper wraps
- lacuni


1hd Weapon:
- gryfalcon
- darklight


2hd Weapon:
- fate of the fell
- maximus
- blade of prophecy
- furnace

shield:
- hellskull
- lidless wall
- jaekebong
- fryderh's wrath
- unrelenting phalanks


PS: this is not complete, so if you have a suggestion which ought to be a top Crus item, pm me to add it.




Refer to this site for popular gear used by Crusaders. But take this with a grain of salt, as that is not a clear indicator if the item is the best or not. It just indicates what most Crusaders use, that is all
http://diablo.somepage.com/popular/items/crusader

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FAQ - frequently asked questions

Q. If i want to suggest editing the Crusader thread notices on front page, how do i go about that ?
A. Just private message me, if you have a suggestion for what should be edited. I cannot be expected to notice your msg in the forum thread, as i don't read everything rolleyes.gif

Q. i'm interested in taking over this thread to maintain it
A. thats fine, but wait till this thread is a few months old before asking :} cauz is brand new still.

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Crusader patch changelogs





2.1.0 *LIVE - (*in summary read here )
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2.1.0 PTR Preview (*introducing new Crusader sets. So expect more viable builds possible for T6 There was mention of either shield bash or phalanx, so stock on physical element gear ...)
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Current patch: v2.0.6 (*no changes for Crus that i saw)
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v2.0.5 (*major changes for Crusader. More toughness and better dps. Notably shotgun and fire starter builds. Blessing shield and condemn build got nerfed though, especially the later)
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Beginner Crusader Gearing Guide - patch 2.0.5

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We've all been a bit consumed by the optimal end-game gear and builds, but there is always a good time for an alt, which might as well be a Crusader since it's the newest and least nerfed class so far.

Deadset Gaming's Beginner Crusader Gearing Guide is extremely helpful and shows not only the items you'll need to get your Crusader to Torment IV pretty quickly, but the build and detailed explanations about each skill as well.

The main components in the early gearing are the Aughild and Captain Crimson sets, since they are crafted, but make sure you watch the whole video for valuable advice and pleasant gameplay background.




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*This section will cover builds and other details meant for newbie or beginner Crusaders to get started and work their way up. So if your already well geared and doing T5-T6 content, then this is probably not relevant for you - Moogle


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Interesting videos from our local lowyat members

Moogle's twitch.tv diablo 3 live stream
http://www.twitch.tv/mooglestiltzkin

*notes: mostly Torment 6 speed rifting for gear, and looking for the cow king smile.gif


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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 1 2014, 04:53 PM)
v1 is not even full yet. doh.gif
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Go join V2 thread! I am handing over to Moogle Stiltzkin.


i was requested to take over rolleyes.gif relax, other will close soon...

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Dat ess (of johan) should be included as good amulet for crusaders.


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QUOTE(stevie @ Jun 1 2014, 06:37 PM)
Dat ess (of johan) should be included as good amulet for crusaders.
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QUOTE(stevie @ Jun 1 2014, 06:37 PM)
Dat ess (of johan) should be included as good amulet for crusaders.
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i salavegd mine sweat.gif , errmm how is it good for cruz?
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QUOTE(olman @ Jun 1 2014, 07:49 PM)
i salavegd mine  sweat.gif , errmm how is it good for cruz?
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What I've rolled so far comes with cc/cd/stat/cdr so saves a lot of trouble trying to get one of those enchantment especially cdr but its all down to luck with what you get on ammy's
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QUOTE(olman @ Jun 1 2014, 07:49 PM)
i salavegd mine  sweat.gif , errmm how is it good for cruz?
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hm... first thing that comes to mind is if you use heaven's fury - ascendency.

Those beams will pull creeps to them hmm.gif
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Hm...... some people were saying shield bash is t6 rdy ? But looking at this video i am not convinced .....




SOmeone even went as far as to say something like....
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too slow.. lmao I crit for 45-50mil, and keep upgrading

who cares if its slow



When i do 40-60m dmg per beam (remember i shoot 3 beams using fotf) at a rate of 0.5 seconds using the quick shotgun spam method. That totally leaves a shield bash build in the dust......

This is why although SB MAY be viable, it is by far too slow to compete with the other better builds out there for T6 content to even bother wasting time on building for....


You can sum up a T6 crusader as either a firestarter or a shotgun build. Until someone can post a convincing third alternative that can keep up with the dmg output and t6 clearance speed of these 2 builds mentioned doh.gif

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I killed Malthael for the first time on Torment 1, with my Lvl 60 Crusader.
Even my barb, DH and wizard couldn't do it.

Akarat's Champion, Phalanx (bow), Heaven's fury and Law of Valor.
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Play with 3 crusader with the same gears (Fotf & Eberli Charo)...
OMG...12 beams....nothing can stop us...
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Jun 1 2014, 11:39 PM)
I killed Malthael for the first time on Torment 1, with my Lvl 60 Crusader.
Even my barb, DH and wizard couldn't do it.

Akarat's Champion, Phalanx (bow), Heaven's fury and Law of Valor.
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i switch to my leapquake barb. doing t6 rift and can feel very slow to fin the rift...compared to my non-darklight fire sader, i can clear the rift quite quick.

pity my barb. hope blizz will give em some love. sad.gif
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For some reason crusader's insignia looks a lot like a girl with cutie double ponytail~
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Do include the blessed shield build.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 2 2014, 12:25 PM)
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Do include the blessed shield build.
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will do hmm.gif but i'm not sure that it's viable for t6. i may label it for t5 and below though hm...... what do the rest of you think on this ?

*update

Added blessed shield build but i'm not too convinced it's the best one, because they don't use horse which could be problematic for fast T5 and T6 runs in a group.

That ascendency without a FOTF looks to me to be useless. I reckon it would be better dumping that for horse instead.



I know there are distinctively slightly different builds around the main ones e.g..... shotgun, firestarter and blessed shield ..... so the ones i link some of you may disagree on some of the skills/enchants/gear recommendations for the build.

So if you feel a skill or gear recommendation can be changed to be even better, then post here and we will see whether we can update the front page if it gains enough approval nod.gif

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 2 2014, 12:35 PM)
will do  hmm.gif  but i'm not sure that it's viable for t6. i may label it for t5 and below though hm...... what do the rest of you think on this ?

*update

Added blessed shield build but i'm not too convinced it's the best one, because they don't use horse which could be problematic for fast T5 and T6 runs in a group.

That ascendency without a FOTF looks to me to be useless. I reckon it would be better dumping that for horse instead.
I know there are distinctively slightly different builds around the main ones e.g..... shotgun, firestarter and blessed shield ..... so the ones i link some of you may disagree on some of the skills/enchants/gear recommendations for the build.

So if you feel a skill or gear recommendation can be changed to be even better, then post here and we will see whether we can update the front page if it gains enough approval  nod.gif
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went through the captain 'Murica build guide, but this guy still stick to shatter throw, which was fixed after 2.0.5, I think Combust build (fire captain) is better, which I currently do tongue.gif (Can solo t4 in multiplayer with ease)
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 2 2014, 01:16 PM)
went through the captain 'Murica build guide, but this guy still stick to shatter throw, which was fixed after 2.0.5, I think Combust build (fire captain) is better, which I currently do tongue.gif (Can solo t4 in multiplayer with ease)
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yeah i think combust is probably better. Got any good youtube for this hmm.gif

it kinda seemed odd for me he recommend firestarter but he uses holy for the blessed shield. Well i guess it's because holy cause is dependent on holy skill for it to proc, that could be why doh.gif And seeing as this build doesn't expend wrath resource, you'll probably going to be heavily reliant on holy cause.

So on one hand combust has better dmg throughput, and on the other shattered shield has holy which makes the holy cause heal proc.

hm hmm.gif

*few hours later of contemplation rclxub.gif
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Relax, not everyone wants to play T6 tongue.gif

Sometimes I whip up my falcon and play a few rifts for the lulz

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Last night, rift gave me gauntlets...and today Kadala gave me the last piece of Akkhan Set - Breastplate rclxm9.gif

Since it is fire build, still prefer Magefist and Cindercoat... hmm.gif

Using only 4 pieces of it...

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Kinda sad that gry+jek is not T4-6 viable... Currently lvling another crus to make shotgun build... Current crus seems tough to get fotf and Akkhan pieces.. only have gauntlet n pants atm... Hopefully the new crus will raise the odds ...
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QUOTE(gh0sty @ Jun 3 2014, 06:26 PM)
Kinda sad that gry+jek is not T4-6 viable... Currently lvling another crus to make shotgun build... Current crus seems tough to get fotf and Akkhan pieces.. only have gauntlet n pants atm... Hopefully the new crus will raise the odds ...
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No need high Torment, get my Jekang and Gry at T3...

In about a week playing, Bliz already giving me 4 Gry...2 give away to party team... thumbup.gif

The only gear havent't get is Darklights...still searching..

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QUOTE(AdamNg @ Jun 3 2014, 07:17 PM)
No need high Torment, get my Jekang and Gry at T3...

In about a week playing, Bliz already giving me 4 Gry...2 give away to party team... thumbup.gif

The only gear havent't get is Darklights...still searching..
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wah 4 Gry.. in a week.. i play crus on ros started untill now no Gry drop..

i should partying with u later biggrin.gif mayb tonight?

add me faheem#1459
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QUOTE(faheem @ Jun 4 2014, 09:45 AM)
wah 4 Gry.. in a week.. i play crus on ros started untill now no Gry drop..

i should partying with u later biggrin.gif mayb tonight?

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QUOTE(gh0sty @ Jun 3 2014, 06:26 PM)
Kinda sad that gry+jek is not T4-6 viable... Currently lvling another crus to make shotgun build... Current crus seems tough to get fotf and Akkhan pieces.. only have gauntlet n pants atm... Hopefully the new crus will raise the odds ...
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not viable meh? i still using this build all the way to T5, samo my item zap pa lang mixture. not using any akkhan piece and no holy SOJ. paper dps 1.1mil
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viable- means kill at a reasonable speed. The problem with Blessed Shield build is..when 1v1 its really slow

T5 only BS is very slow. Unless you build hybrid..BS with Condem
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 5 2014, 04:47 PM)
viable- means kill at a reasonable speed. The problem with Blessed Shield build is..when 1v1 its really slow

T5 only BS is very slow. Unless you build hybrid..BS with Condem
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BS build so far is for mid torment level (of course it's I myself haven't found a way to do it in T5-T6)

But in the context of T4, my BS crusader (fire build) can solo can boss in the game, included malthael) easily.
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ya its true BS build can only go up T3, T4 is only efficient if u can increase your dmg.

and I use BS + Bowmen (Aughild + Blackset)

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I just started 2 days ago playing crusader and I got 5 pieces akkhan set in 2 days. All from kadala. Running cinder with 5 piece akkhan and RORG now. Planning to go fire since I found a fire soj and fire dmg bracer as well.

Anyone can suggest a good fire skill build for t6? Still damn new to crusader.

Will definitely be going Maximus for weapon but don't know what shield to use.
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Jun 6 2014, 04:23 PM)
I just started 2 days ago playing crusader and I got 5 pieces akkhan set in 2 days. All from kadala. Running cinder with 5 piece akkhan and RORG now. Planning to go fire since I found a fire soj and fire dmg bracer as well.

Anyone can suggest a good fire skill build for t6? Still damn new to crusader.

Will definitely be going Maximus for weapon but don't know what shield to use.
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took me at least 1-2 months rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Jun 6 2014, 04:23 PM)
I just started 2 days ago playing crusader and I got 5 pieces akkhan set in 2 days. All from kadala. Running cinder with 5 piece akkhan and RORG now. Planning to go fire since I found a fire soj and fire dmg bracer as well.

Anyone can suggest a good fire skill build for t6? Still damn new to crusader.

Will definitely be going Maximus for weapon but don't know what shield to use.
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Ive been playing my crusader for tu month but kadala only give me 2akhan set
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 6 2014, 05:59 PM)
2 pieces in 2 days ? jesus i'm impressed  rclxms.gif

took me at least 1-2 months  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jun 6 2014, 06:35 PM)
2 days and all sets from kadala?!?!
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Haha I don't know man, I don't know whether it's for a fact I obtained the blood shards from T6 or I'm plain lucky.

Gamble 5 times all 5 times also got. Helm, glove, shoulder, pants and boots.

I've already got a DH that can face roll T6 solo so what I did was just use my DH and farm blood shards in T6 (average 100 shards per rift run) then I just switch to crus and gamble. Not sure if shards coming from T6 impacts your gambling chances whatsoever.
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And today Kadala gave me FOTF. This is madness.
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Hmmm ... This thread has been changed to kadala now... She's an attention seeking whore I tell you... Lol

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hi guys, any guide to play Crusader w/o using full Akkhan set?.. looking to play T2-3 onli.. my idea to get full Akkhan from Kadala cant use already.. she is whore.. no single Akkhan after thousand of BS spent. So I think the only way to get gears for her is by farming with her.

I browsing crusader gearing guide all need 5-6 Akkahn pieces sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 9 2014, 11:19 AM)
hi guys, any guide to play Crusader w/o using full Akkhan set?.. looking to play T2-3 onli.. my idea to get full Akkhan from Kadala cant use already.. she is whore.. no single Akkhan after thousand of BS spent. So I think the only way to get gears for her is by farming with her.

I browsing crusader gearing guide all need 5-6 Akkahn pieces sweat.gif
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gyrfalcon foote + jekangboard. spam blessed shield  smile.gif
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I dont have those gears yet cry.gif  not drop on my WD tongue.gif  currently use Captain set for CDR bonus.. T2 damn slow to kill sweat.gif
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akkhan shoulder and chest; and a gryfalcon drop today same game o-o;

also found a fate of the fell too (not too gr8)


gave away shoulder, wasn't too bad )missing 500 vit but had 90+ all res instead doh.gif )

falc was 2.1k + with str and sock. so i can reroll vit to whatever i wanted :} 10%dmg , attack speed or 10 cdr .... still not sure so left untouched.

chest for bombardment set if it ever gets buffed ^-^;;
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jun 9 2014, 11:31 AM)
not drop on ur wd?  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Jun 6 2014, 08:07 PM)
Haha I don't know man, I don't know whether it's for a fact I obtained the blood shards from T6 or I'm plain lucky.

Gamble 5 times all 5 times also got. Helm, glove, shoulder, pants and boots.

I've already got a DH that can face roll T6 solo so what I did was just use my DH and farm blood shards in T6 (average 100 shards per rift run) then I just switch to crus and gamble. Not sure if shards coming from T6 impacts your gambling chances whatsoever.
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omg.. now only i know BS are account wide.. i tot the shards u farm are only for ur character that farmed it.
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ring of royal grandeur ..... spent roughly 100 million gold and 900+ topaz marquise gems .....

had to skip a perfect 50 chd roll (normally in situations like this, i'd have a dupe item to avoid this situation. But having a good rorg is kinda hard, and farming a dupe of that even harder and probly not worth the effort so cry.gif )..... 1 hour later finally got the perf 8 cool down reduction roll...


420 str
5 attack speed
5 chc
8 cdr (rerollable stat)
*secondary - 146 fire resist



now missing 3 cdr to max out on my build, from shield (1) and glove (2).


with my now current 46.39 CDR it's roughly 5-6 seconds wait time before i can recast akarat champion in between. This is definitely playable, but for comfort sake, if i can squeeze that 3 cdr from the 2 gear items mentioned, it would be even smoother with even less down time. my guess would be 3-4 seconds wait time for recasting.

I already covered this before but 0 wait time is not necessary for shotgun. this gives you room to pump in more dmg for a very near to non-existent inconvenience for a higher dmg gain.

So the question remains, is it worth having 10% dmg in fotf, or is it better to use 10 cdr in there, then replace ring 8cdr for 50 chd (in the stone of jordan. It's possible to do this for rorg instead, but i don't recommend it smile.gif seing as you may want to share the ring with the barb alt at some point )

Anyone good with math who can figure which is the better option :/ ?

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 9 2014, 02:46 PM)
ring of royal grandeur ..... spent roughly 100 million gold and 900+ topaz marquise gems .....

had to skip a perfect 50 chd roll (normally in situations like this, i'd have a dupe item to avoid this situation. But having a good rorg is kinda hard, and farming a dupe of that even harder and probly not worth the effort so  cry.gif  )..... 1 hour later finally got the perf 8 cool down reduction roll...
420 str
5 attack speed
5 chc
8 cdr (rerollable stat)
*secondary - 146 fire resist
now missing 3 cdr to max out on my build, from shield (1) and glove (2).
with my now current 46.39 CDR it's roughly 5-6 seconds wait time before i can recast akarat champion in between. This is definitely playable, but for comfort sake, if i can squeeze that 3 cdr from the 2 gear items mentioned, it would be even smoother with even less down time. my guess would be 3-4 seconds wait time for recasting.

I already covered this before but 0 wait time is not necessary for shotgun. this gives you room to pump in more dmg for a very near to non-existent inconvenience for a higher dmg gain.

So the question remains, is it worth having 10% dmg in fotf, or is it better to use 10 cdr in there, then replace ring 8cdr for 50 chd (in the stone of jordan. It's possible to do this for rorg instead, but i don't recommend it  smile.gif seing as you may want to share the ring with the barb alt at some point )

Anyone good with math who can figure which is the better option :/ ?
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Hide behind a barb and spam your skill  tongue.gif
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i tried playing barb, he died so fast......

my barb acquintence was not joking when he said barbs need 500k hp so he said enchant wep with vit shocking.gif


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Had a really nice loot table yesterday.

- gryfalcon
- stone of jordan
- fell of the fate
- akkhan shoulders
- akkhan chest
- hellskull shield


but i was a bit lazy to hang onto that game doh.gif cause i also use my computer for other things. Not farming too seriously these days besides, but if i was, i'd camp that game nod.gif

I only managed to snag 2 akkhan shoulders, which i kept 1 and gave away another. And i kept a chest which i'll use for bombardment if it ever gets buffed.




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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 9 2014, 11:35 AM)
akkhan shoulder and chest; and a gryfalcon drop today same game o-o;

also found a fate of the fell too (not too gr8)
gave away shoulder, wasn't too bad )missing 500 vit but had 90+ all res instead doh.gif )

falc was 2.1k + with str and sock. so i can reroll vit to whatever i wanted :} 10%dmg , attack speed or 10 cdr .... still not sure so left untouched.

chest for bombardment set if it ever gets buffed ^-^;;
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I think you would get more dps for your falc if u enchant the min-max dmg since it already has a natural socket.. Unless your min-max dmg is in the high side.. Then don't bother... But if its attk speed tht u are looking for... Then it's definitely Vit for AttkSpeed.

Btw, nice drops... I've been farming for remaining Akkhan sets and FotF but they dont exist in my world lol...

Currently playing my alt fire crus and does okay dmg (8-11mil crits from FoH and 25-55mil crits from falling sword - both are after shield glare) but it is getting kinda dull with this setup... Lvling my barb now... Wanna do a leapquake barb which requires less set armor compared to shotgun crusader and I can hop around like a rabbit with Lut Socks hoppity hippity hop!

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Anyone running high a.speed with full sets Akkhan+FotF around 45%+ cdr (include paragon) ?

Y attack speed? Shotgun shoot too slow..
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Anyone running high a.speed with full sets Akkhan+FotF around 45%+ cdr (include paragon) ?

Y attack speed? Shotgun shoot too slow..
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theres a technique to make shotgun shoot fast...

left click hold force move..... and spam press HF key. mines #3....

you'll then notice shotgun spam is faster than doing normally...

this was the case for wizards till it got patched. but not yet patched for crus... smile.gif


there 2 other techniques that achieve this too, which i tried but i felt my way worked for me best laugh.gif


*i'm shotgun but i have almost 0 attack speed other than from my paragorn points, but i still shoot fast smile.gif

Not sure what diff it would be for those who stack ias for this, but i doubt it matters right now.

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/kelThuz...4/hero/45449979

any recommendation to improve my build/gear?
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/kelThuz...4/hero/45449979

any recommendation to improve my build/gear?
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may i know what difficulty u play, i see no CDR on your gears..

btw using first page crusader beginner guide, I feel a bit comfartable in T4 now... but still no crusader shield/ item drop from farming and Kadala... nice blizztard... buffed drop rate my a ssssss mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 12 2014, 08:17 AM)
may i know what difficulty u play, i see no CDR on your gears..

btw using first page crusader beginner guide, I feel a bit comfartable in T4 now... but still no crusader shield/ item drop from farming and Kadala... nice blizztard... buffed drop rate my a ssssss mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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now T1 only..T2 can..but not efficient..

CDR? Cooldown reduction?
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QUOTE(and85rew @ Jun 12 2014, 11:53 AM)
now T1 only..T2 can..but not efficient..

CDR? Cooldown reduction?
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yes, Cool down reduction..stack as much as u can.. we beginner Crusader play w/o full Akkhan bonus... So i suggest u to craft Crimson set.. roll CDR on shoulders etc..
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Non-akkhan build which can solo T5-6 (inefficiently) and do well in lower torment levels.

67% CDR with passive and paragon.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/fthis-6363/hero/43524809

Made it just for the lulz

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QUOTE(stevie @ Jun 12 2014, 12:46 PM)
Non-akkhan build which can solo T5-6 (inefficiently) and do well in lower torment levels.

67% CDR with passive and paragon.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/fthis-6363/hero/43524809

Made it just for the lulz
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Aiya. Only need 200 PL for 10% CDR.
If wanna follow the crated theme can use born shoulder/weapon and Aug helm/chest and reaper's wraps.

Should work as well also ma. Haha.
I ran out of arcane dust. Zz
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QUOTE(stevie @ Jun 12 2014, 02:00 PM)
Aiya. Only need 200 PL for 10% CDR.
If wanna follow the crated theme can use born shoulder/weapon and Aug helm/chest and reaper's wraps.

Should work as well also ma. Haha.
I ran out of arcane dust. Zz
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Force-6908/hero/48308754 my cru. still have Int gear. haha
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Bro, share your build with crafted gears.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dEFe8S2mNI

As you can see from this poorly made video (Free fraps is 30 secs blocks), It can actually do T6 but kills quite slow.
You can notice with the CDR, LoV - Unstoppable Force is up 100% of the time allowing FotH's spamming.

As you can see, I can't spam 100% but that's because its single target. In situations where there are more mobs, You can actually get it to work seamlessly.

Build you can see from the profile I shared above.
I believe this build and itemisation is good for people to get started into the crusader world.

To improve on this build, gloves, boot and helm can be akkhan and bracer can be reaper's wraps.
You can have zero fury issues with that setup.

T3-5 is comfortable depending on the rolls of the items.
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QUOTE(stevie @ Jun 12 2014, 03:41 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dEFe8S2mNI

As you can see from this poorly made video (Free fraps is 30 secs blocks), It can actually do T6 but kills quite slow.
You can notice with the CDR, LoV - Unstoppable Force is up 100% of the time allowing FotH's spamming.

As you can see, I can't spam 100% but that's because its single target. In situations where there are more mobs, You can actually get it to work seamlessly.

Build you can see from the profile I shared above.
I believe this build and itemisation is good for people to get started into the crusader world.

To improve on this build, gloves, boot and helm can be akkhan and bracer can be reaper's wraps.
You can have zero fury issues with that setup.

T3-5 is comfortable depending on the rolls of the items.
Cheers guys biggrin.gif
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I'll build a Cru soon. Your guide will come in handy.
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Can't view the video.

I'll build a Cru soon. Your guide will come in handy.
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It requires 49% CDR from gears?
What's the minimum CDR in total?

Any other requirement? Such as IAS etc?
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There isn't any other requirements besides CDR.

IMO, CDR is the single most important stat for a Crusader.
Even in my main, Everything that can be CDR is CDRed except my weapon as I have not been able to find a FotF which gives me that option.
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You can actually get CDR from a crusader shield as well. But the odds are really low as there are a million stats to roll from. That's why I didn't bother rolling my Final Witness.
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Just wanted to inform you fellow crusaders .... expect great things patch v2.1 .... of particular interest to our class.

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Invoker Set was originally intended to be a Crusader set as Thorns was a larger theme for Crusaders

The devs are working on a new Crusader set that will buff Phalanx or Shield Bash



general interest
Old Legendaries are going to get revamped in 2.1, but not retroactively, so hoarding them now is pointless

Details about Legendary Gems are coming 'very soon' in a blog post

The aforementioned Legendary gems will most probably fit into Rings and Amulets

The so-called "Hellfire Amulet" will come with 2.1

Hellfire Amulet will unlock a randomly rolled Passive for your class


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I'm hoping the new set buffs would...

1. make phalanx more like immortal king (that isn't reliant on CDR or recasts for phalanx....). Because the current akkhan set is CDR based, so that pretty much sums up that CDR is 99.99% in all Crusader builds...

2. hoping shield bash becomes more viable so as not to be trumped by a heavens fury shotgun build. But at the same time i hope they don't try to nerf HF shotgun to make it as weak as the current shield bash builds.

i envision a shield bash via set would have to have a much wider area of damage that would be competitive against the current shotgun and firestarter builds.... somewhere in between the 2.....

it would also make better use of justice lantern, helm of command and shield of westfall aka wolf shield.



what this all means is..... not much point farming now because some legends will be changing and it won't be retroactive..... so if you've got decent gear like me, not much point other than...

1. working on achievements
2. getting more paragorn (though kinda pointless once you've hit 600+ )



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Or level other characters to 70 in order to store unwanted legs...

Me still struggling to level up my DH, how do we find kind-hearted players for power-leveling?

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 13 2014, 11:13 AM)
Or level other characters to 70 in order to store unwanted legs...

Me still struggling to level up my DH, how do we find kind-hearted players for power-leveling?
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lol bro...tonite i can help if u want... if ur level <50, doing Act1 cursed cellar bounty, >50 doing hellrift..u will 70 very fast smile.gif
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 13 2014, 11:13 AM)
Or level other characters to 70 in order to store unwanted legs...

Me still struggling to level up my DH, how do we find kind-hearted players for power-leveling?
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No need power-levelling. It's old school method.

Go do multi-player rift.
Swap char to get xp points after each rift run.
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 13 2014, 11:19 AM)
lol bro...tonite i can help if u want... if ur level <50, doing Act1 cursed cellar bounty, >50 doing hellrift..u will 70 very fast smile.gif
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wah nice !!! Thanks ya in advance!

yeah my DH is 50.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 13 2014, 11:23 AM)
No need power-levelling. It's old school method.

Go do multi-player rift.
Swap char to get xp points after each rift run.
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Ya I did that as well, but that's only possible if all clan members are in.

If other players join in you probably got some d|ck head who always close the rift the moment rift boss killed, ignoring other players might want to continue farming.
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Go do multi-player rift.
Swap char to get xp points after each rift run.
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doing this from lvl 1 will very slow biggrin.gif onli good for lvl60+
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 13 2014, 11:29 AM)
doing this from lvl 1 will very slow biggrin.gif onli good for lvl60+
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post Jun 13 2014, 12:28 PM

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Hi guys,

What do u guys think about ice crusader..

Currently I have 3 extra arkhan eq (pant, armor, shoulder) so I think why not I play another unconventional crusader build

So im thinking to do ice bless hammer build.
The equip will be

6 set bonus arkhan (5 eq + rorg)
Frostburn (cold dmg have chance to freeze mob)
Cold soj
Azurewrath (chance to freeze mob)

Other skill to buff the dmg
Firestarter champ
LoV : critical
Provoke : charge up
Concecration : ice field thingy to add more freeze effect
Phalanx or anything

Passive :
Holy cause
Finery
Fervor
Blunt

What u guys think? I think this is very fun build to see mob freeze and slow.
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post Jun 13 2014, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(KruteX @ Jun 13 2014, 12:28 PM)
Hi guys,

What do u guys think about ice crusader..

Currently I have 3 extra arkhan eq (pant, armor, shoulder) so I think why not I play another unconventional crusader build

So im thinking to do ice bless hammer build.
The equip will be

6 set bonus arkhan (5 eq + rorg)
Frostburn (cold dmg have chance to freeze mob)
Cold soj
Azurewrath (chance to freeze mob)

Other skill to buff the dmg
Firestarter champ
LoV : critical
Provoke : charge up
Concecration : ice field thingy to add more freeze effect
Phalanx or anything

Passive :
Holy cause
Finery
Fervor
Blunt

What u guys think? I think this is very fun build to see mob freeze and slow.
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kinda weird i think, it's like wizard trying to do holy dmg~

However, who knows!? may be it's the most IMBA one? Give it a try and share with us! icon_idea.gif

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post Jun 13 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 13 2014, 12:54 PM)
kinda weird i think, it's like wizard trying to do holy dmg~

However, who knows!? may be it's the most IMBA one? Give it a try and share with us!  icon_idea.gif
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Any idea what amulet or bracer that could compliment ice?
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post Jun 13 2014, 08:58 PM

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Tested ice bless hammer.

Below my stat.
Sheet dmg 1m
Cold dmg 80 %
Crit dmg 430++
BS bonus dmg 12%

Dmg per hammer to normal mob 9-11m
Dmg to elite around 12-15m

Eventhough benefit from frostburn + azurewrath still unable to perma frost..


Conclusion : experiment fail
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post Jun 14 2014, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(KruteX @ Jun 13 2014, 08:58 PM)
Tested ice bless hammer.

Below my stat.
Sheet dmg 1m
Cold dmg 80 %
Crit dmg 430++
BS bonus dmg 12%

Dmg per hammer to normal mob 9-11m
Dmg to elite around 12-15m

Eventhough benefit from frostburn + azurewrath still unable to perma frost..
Conclusion : experiment fail
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not much point anyway perma frost if can't clear fast. better just focus on max dps output with wide aoe and sustainable and fast spam rate, it's possible now for crusader, and the 2.0.5 patch toughness update for crusaders has also helped us stay alive better as well.

hm... on side note, i think it was rime 1hand weapon that could kill creatures that are frozen if not mistaken. Wonder how effective that would be.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/rimeheart


So the theory would be, in a 2man group or more, your role would be to freeze mobs, and hope that rime would kill them, assuming that they get frozen and the proc on rime both are consistent, which would outperform or match the current firestarter and shotgun clearance speed.



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post Jun 14 2014, 04:47 AM

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The rimeheart only shatter white mob I believe. It wont insta kill elite or rg.

By the way. In 2.1 patch.. there will be hellfire amulet (craftable) where the legendary affix will be free passive skill which enable us to have 5 passive at 1 time.

This will be very interesting ..
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QUOTE(KruteX @ Jun 14 2014, 04:47 AM)
The rimeheart only shatter white mob I believe. It wont insta kill elite or rg.


yeah thats why i said 2 or more. because the idea is, clearing the trash would be your role, while the elite packs and rg will be up to others.


QUOTE(KruteX @ Jun 14 2014, 04:47 AM)
By the way. In 2.1 patch.. there will be hellfire amulet (craftable) where the legendary affix will be free passive skill which enable us to have 5 passive at 1 time.

This will be very interesting ..
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yeah that would be very interesting smile.gif

But from what i heard it would be a RANDOM passive..... wonder what they mean exactly by that.

Would it be like the legendary potions, where there will be passive effects not already in the skill table ? Or does it mean random passive from the existing skill table ? hmm.gif

Right now i use

- finery
-indestructible
- heavenly strength
- holy cause


So for a fifth based on the existing skill table, i'd probably want to fit in any of these options
- long arm of the law (extend my law active to 10 instead of 5. Useful for group play buff. I'm using the increase CHD by 100%)
- vigilant (increases life regen, and reduces non physical damage by 20% Seeing as my all resistance is low, i would benefit from this.)

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post Jun 14 2014, 01:30 PM

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post Jun 14 2014, 06:47 PM

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Hello all, new crusader reporting in and I need some guidance from all the senior here smile.gif

Ok like this, I just completed my Akkhan set 6 pcs and manage to make it into perma AC and my question will be:-

Darklight Build (as per video provided at first page by abang moogle) i saw the FotH damage are around 10M - 12M (without Harrington proc) and that is a agreed by many is a T6 viable build.

Hence my question is comparing dps wise, the build I'm currently running Blessed Shield my dps per hit were around 10M and I can hit way much faster and it's a range build and it hits up to 6 mobs too (with Jekangboard shield of course)

And seeing the FotH user need to stick close to the mobs to benefit from the FREE FotH proc by Darklight, in return we are taking alot more dmg hence higher risk in dying too.

So I wonder how come as abang moogle said Blessed Shield build is only recommended on T5 and below, is there anything I'm doing wrong as I dont see a higher dps in using Foth, or anyone can share some info in how much are you doing per hit in using your FotH build

Don't get me wrong and I'm not questioning Moogle here, just wanna clarify my doubt and would like to know in what way Darklight build shine as a T6 viable build.

TLDR: DarkLight (full akkhan set) VS Blessed Shield (Mix n match legendary gear)

All comments are welcome and truly appreciated....Cheers thumbup.gif
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post Jun 15 2014, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Goofie @ Jun 14 2014, 06:47 PM)
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wow perma AC, can link your profile for gear reference?
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The difference is you can stack the AoE DoT fire damage 5 times on top of the cast dmg
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post Jun 17 2014, 12:47 PM

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I've only played my Crusader for about 1 month and I have far exceeded my Monk who was my main during D3 Vanilla.

Never knew that I have to pump CDR to make my crud imba. All this time I only pump the usual trinity stats and currently playing Lightning Crusader, which I can farm comfortably in T2, single or multi.

Just crafted Born's Shoulder and Chest to get the CDR bonus last night since I still don't have full Akkhan yet. So far only had Shoulder and Leg. Helm was a trade from a friend, for a Darklight dropped on me. Kadala is pissing me off, still can't get chest and boots even after thousands of shards spent vmad.gif

Anyway, my profile is http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Illidan...4/hero/45464904.

Damage increased to 1.9kk with Laws of Valor - Critical and AC.
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so jelly watching 1 streamer got 2 FoTf in 1 single rift.. he just salvage it shocking.gif bcos he is using better one... still waiting one to drop for me..

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QUOTE(Goofie @ Jun 14 2014, 06:47 PM)
Hello all, new crusader reporting in and I need some guidance from all the senior here  smile.gif

Ok like this, I just completed my Akkhan set 6 pcs and manage to make it into perma AC and my question will be:-

Darklight Build (as per video provided at first page by abang moogle) i saw the FotH damage are around 10M - 12M (without Harrington proc) and that is a agreed by many is a T6 viable build.

Hence my question is comparing dps wise, the build I'm currently running Blessed Shield my dps per hit were around 10M and I can hit way much faster and it's a range build and it hits up to 6 mobs too (with Jekangboard shield of course)

And seeing the FotH user need to stick close to the mobs to benefit from the FREE FotH proc by Darklight, in return we are taking alot more dmg hence higher risk in dying too.

So I wonder how come as abang moogle said Blessed Shield build is only recommended on T5 and below, is there anything I'm doing wrong as I dont see a higher dps in using Foth, or anyone can share some info in how much are you doing per hit in using your FotH build

Don't get me wrong and I'm not questioning Moogle here, just wanna clarify my doubt and would like to know in what way Darklight build shine as a T6 viable build.

TLDR: DarkLight (full akkhan set) VS Blessed Shield (Mix n match legendary gear)

All comments are welcome and truly appreciated....Cheers  thumbup.gif
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Moogle is right, my experience with crusaders is limited, I've only played my crusader for about a week, but from my experience, I started with blessed shield setup, and at t4, my damage and kill speed felt somewhat slow. Once I got my 6 Akkhan pieces and a Darklight, I could go straight into t6 and steam roll it.

QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Jun 17 2014, 12:47 PM)
I've only played my Crusader for about 1 month and I have far exceeded my Monk who was my main during D3 Vanilla.
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I've only played my Crusader for about a week and it has already exceeded my Barb who was my main from vanilla d3 till about a week ago lol.



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post Jun 17 2014, 02:15 PM

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i started my CRU 1 week ago, i have full set Akkhan & FOFT was drop 2 days back... stats are GG. rclxms.gif My Profile

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post Jun 17 2014, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Eywh77 @ Jun 17 2014, 02:15 PM)
i started my CRU 1 week ago, i have full set Akkhan & FOFT was drop 2 days back... stats are GG.  rclxms.gif My Profile
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wow that stat! mine to share what's your top DPS (without akarat champion) and how long do you need to wait between AC activation?

p/s: OMH, Lydia...

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post Jun 17 2014, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 17 2014, 03:21 PM)
wow that stat! mine to share what's your top DPS (without akarat champion) and how long do you need to wait between AC activation?

p/s: OMH, Lydia...
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Hmm...if not mistaken around 9++K, AC cool down can't recall (but is fast)....lol!
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dang u guys are so lucky :S
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I started play crus from started ROS out.. but now still dont have looted GF..

anyway any comment for My Nub Cruz
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QUOTE(faheem @ Jun 17 2014, 05:04 PM)
I started play crus from started ROS out.. but now still dont have looted GF..

anyway any comment for  My Nub Cruz
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only 1 comment from me... CARRY ME PLS! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dreaming @ Jun 17 2014, 05:38 PM)
only 1 comment from me...  CARRY ME PLS!  biggrin.gif
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Haha..today 2 darklight dropped for me..

Salvaged 1..

Still hoping for Akkhan chest/shoulders and gloves so I can full akkans
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QUOTE(faheem @ Jun 17 2014, 05:04 PM)
I started play crus from started ROS out.. but now still dont have looted GF..

anyway any comment for  My Nub Cruz
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my comment is: pls gimme your full akkhan to me biggrin.gif
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haha.. i think we should form a cruz party and shared loot.. T4 i think best farming rift.
but the problem is low on rift key@@.
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faheem later farm with me i have alot of key due to no int ROG for my wiz.... it's all Fedoe fault... he curse my Wizard...
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QUOTE(zonan4 @ Jun 17 2014, 08:51 PM)
faheem later farm with me i have alot of key due to no int ROG for my wiz.... it's all Fedoe fault... he curse my Wizard...
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go farm..its up
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post Jun 18 2014, 10:50 AM

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hoo hoo yesterday akkhan's helm dropped to me, so now I had 5 pieces already, just need to find the gloves or ROGR to complete it.

Anyway, forgot to mention that the helm dropped to me while I'm playing Wizard... sweat.gif

Also, the game dropped me Furnace... INT version without socket... what should I do with it now doh.gif

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I completed my Akkhan set in T4, FOTF from T5
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Please add me (Aiken#1503) too for T4 rift!!

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 18 2014, 10:50 AM)
hoo hoo yesterday akkhan's helm dropped to me, so now I had 5 pieces already, just need to find the gloves or ROGR to complete it.

Anyway, forgot to mention that the helm dropped to me while I'm playing Wizard... sweat.gif

Also, the game dropped me Furnace... INT version without socket... what should I do with it now  doh.gif
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buat lubang..then put diamond in the lubang.

Why diamond? Because the bonus on furnace is base damage (white damage) hence no need crit, bonus on E buffs any damage.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 18 2014, 11:48 AM)
buat lubang..then put diamond in the lubang.

Why diamond? Because the bonus on furnace is base damage (white damage) hence no need crit, bonus on E buffs any damage.
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I need it for my crusader but I got it while playing wizard... INT = no good for crusader sad.gif
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 18 2014, 11:57 AM)
I need it for my crusader but I got it while playing wizard... INT = no good for crusader  sad.gif
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doesn't matter bro..it could be dex for all its worth.

The only valuable part on the Furnace is ...6-8% damage to current health of monster.

I explained above liao. A 0 str furnace will lower a t6 RG life to 50% faster than a maxed rolled FotF. It's ridiculous OP currently and bound to be nerfed soon.

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 18 2014, 12:01 PM)
doesn't matter bro..it could be dex for all its worth.

The only valuable part on the Furnace is ...6-8% damage to current health of monster.

I explained above liao.  A 0 str furnace will lower a t6 RG life to 50% faster than a maxed rolled FotF. It's ridiculous OP currently and bound to be nerfed soon.
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oooooh!

SO means doesn't matter how much dmg my character can do, just need that special effect ar? mine is 8% one.

So... am I finally worthy to join Moogle's team tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 18 2014, 12:05 PM)
oooooh!

SO means doesn't matter how much dmg my character can do, just need that special effect ar? mine is 8% one.

So... am I finally worthy to join Moogle's team tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Yes.....you can be a zero dps toon and whack the RG like toufu. Gratz on the 8% seldom see those around.

But do note that the bonus scales with the monster current health..hence DIMINISHING RETURNS. Usually I will swap back to my usual weapon when RG is around 50% life left.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 18 2014, 12:12 PM)
Yes.....you can be a zero dps toon and whack the RG like toufu. Gratz on the 8% seldom see those around.

But do note that the bonus scales with the monster current health..hence DIMINISHING RETURNS. Usually I will swap back to my usual weapon when RG is around 50% life left.
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Can't I whack around with this weapon only? I guess it works fine with other mob too. (Unless it's not that effective)

Ok in this case I'll roll away the INT with a socket.

Eh may I ask, how does increase DMG against elite help while the damage only base on their current health? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 18 2014, 12:25 PM)
Can't I whack around with this weapon only? I guess it works fine with other mob too. (Unless it's not that effective)

Ok in this case I'll roll away the INT with a socket.

Eh may I ask, how does increase DMG against elite help while the damage only base on their current health? rclxub.gif
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U can use it but..there is no synergy with cru..like Fotf or BoP or GF weapons. U get more DPS with you wield those fails as a cru.

The damage by Furnace is % of current health. Hence if monster health is 400M, when the bonus proc, you do 8% x 400M = 32M alone. Here is the kicker..the 32M is white damage , i.e base damage which can never crit. However, bonus to E works on white damage, hence you will want to stack that. Assuming you have a 30% E bonus soj + 20% diamond in weapon = 50% E bonus. You net damage will be 32M + 16M =48M lo

Now lets assume its T6 RG ..Ghom, who has 4B life. Your first hit on Ghom will hit him for 480M lo...power or not?
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 18 2014, 12:59 PM)
U can use it but..there is no synergy with cru..like Fotf or BoP or GF weapons. U get more DPS with you wield those fails as a cru.

The damage by Furnace is % of current health. Hence if monster health is 400M, when the bonus proc, you do 8% x 400M = 32M alone. Here is the kicker..the 32M is white damage , i.e base damage which can never crit. However, bonus to E works on white damage, hence you will want to stack that. Assuming you have a 30% E bonus soj + 20% diamond in weapon = 50% E bonus. You net damage will be 32M + 16M =48M lo

Now lets assume its T6 RG ..Ghom, who has 4B life. Your first hit on Ghom will hit him for 480M lo...power or not?
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ultra... ... flex.gif

Oh ya sinc eit's white DMG, will Hellskull help?
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 18 2014, 02:12 PM)
ultra... ... flex.gif

Oh ya sinc eit's white DMG, will Hellskull help?
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Of course...


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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 18 2014, 02:16 PM)
Of course...
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No time to play. Can start playing next month only. Heard about new patch. Anything for Cru?
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No time to play. Can start playing next month only. Heard about new patch. Anything for Cru?
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i updated front page you can check from the links. and google if you still need more info smile.gif
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jun 18 2014, 06:50 PM)
No time to play. Can start playing next month only. Heard about new patch. Anything for Cru?
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no wonder i cant see u online n chat chat recently, i thought u rest a while ...
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i updated front page you can check from the links. and google if you still need more info  smile.gif
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Thanks. Going to give it a read. Seems like a small change for cru.

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no wonder i cant see u online n chat chat recently, i thought u rest a while ...

Yalor, too busy with work really no time to play. Next month will be back. Switching back to monk ah? A lot of changes coming
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jun 18 2014, 10:28 PM)
Yalor, too busy with work really no time to play. Next month will be back. Switching back to monk ah? A lot of changes coming
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This morning looted Str Furnace, will testing it out tonight. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Eywh77 @ Jun 19 2014, 01:41 PM)
This morning looted Str Furnace, will testing it out tonight. rclxms.gif
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Thanks for smart loot Blizztard... Vit=Str now?
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 21 2014, 11:30 AM)
Thanks for smart loot Blizztard... Vit=Str now?
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Moogle don't play shotgun build anymore?

Anyways... Finally got my shotgun build gears and find it kinda frustrating... Always starving for wrath... Gonna try Laws of Valor - Unstoppable force and see how it goes... Also using provoke for that 30 wrath gain but not much help...

Currently sitting at 51% CDR... And still trying to get a gg hellskull shield for more CDR...

Please comment my crus and see what I'm doing wrong...

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/CrankyM...2/hero/46878184

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QUOTE(gh0sty @ Jun 23 2014, 08:07 AM)
Moogle don't play shotgun build anymore?

Anyways... Finally got my shotgun build gears and find it kinda frustrating... Always starving for wrath... Gonna try Laws of Valor - Unstoppable force and see how it goes... Also using provoke for that 30 wrath gain but not much help...

Currently sitting at 51% CDR... And still trying to get a gg hellskull shield for more CDR...

Please comment my crus and see what I'm doing wrong...

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wow total CRD of 51% + full set bonus from Akkhan, your Akarat champion downtime is 0?
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QUOTE(gh0sty @ Jun 23 2014, 08:07 AM)
Moogle don't play shotgun build anymore?

Anyways... Finally got my shotgun build gears and find it kinda frustrating... Always starving for wrath... Gonna try Laws of Valor - Unstoppable force and see how it goes... Also using provoke for that 30 wrath gain but not much help...

Currently sitting at 51% CDR... And still trying to get a gg hellskull shield for more CDR...

Please comment my crus and see what I'm doing wrong...

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/CrankyM...2/hero/46878184
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I so excited after got my 5th Akkhan (6 set bonus with RoRG).. after tried it....take ages to kill T4 elites (compare to my previous build) maybe my gears too bad cant utilise full akkhan bonus yet..
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 23 2014, 10:29 AM)
wow total CRD of 51% + full set bonus from Akkhan, your Akarat champion downtime is 0?
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afaik need 56% CDR to get perma AC with full akkhan..
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 23 2014, 10:41 AM)
afaik need 56% CDR to get perma AC with full akkhan..
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erm... mind to explain? Coz CDR does stack and full akkhan itself provides 50% already. (But I only have 5 pieces Akkhan and without FOTF, so never try out shotgun build)
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 23 2014, 10:58 AM)
erm... mind to explain? Coz CDR does stack and full akkhan itself provides 50% already. (But I only have 5 pieces Akkhan and without FOTF, so never try out shotgun build)
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I think there are penalty too in CDR calculation.. for example before I reroll 8% CDR on my glove, I have 48.x% CDR..when I equipped my glove, my total CDR 52.x% onli..

from my reading, 50%-ish CDR is good enough...

btw I just found this: http://bannedofgamers.com/index.php?cdr/ maybe already highlighted here before

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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 23 2014, 11:07 AM)
I think there are penalty too in CDR calculation.. for example before I reroll 8% CDR on my glove, I have 48.x% CDR..when I equipped my glove, my total CDR 52.x% onli..

from my reading, 50%-ish CDR is good enough...

btw I just found this: http://bannedofgamers.com/index.php?cdr/ maybe already highlighted here before
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this is so weird...

Anyway nice tool you share there, looks like we wont get perma Akkhan now... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 23 2014, 11:23 AM)
this is so weird...

Anyway nice tool you share there, looks like we wont get perma Akkhan now...  sad.gif
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 23 2014, 10:29 AM)
wow total CRD of 51% + full set bonus from Akkhan, your Akarat champion downtime is 0?
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Downtime is about 2secs... The website sabenarian linked is very accurate...

QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 23 2014, 11:07 AM)
I think there are penalty too in CDR calculation.. for example before I reroll 8% CDR on my glove, I have 48.x% CDR..when I equipped my glove, my total CDR 52.x% onli..

from my reading, 50%-ish CDR is good enough...

btw I just found this: http://bannedofgamers.com/index.php?cdr/ maybe already highlighted here before
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Nice share... Very exact calculations... All I need now is a hellskull with 8% CDR to achieve 55% (perma AC)

Btw, do you shotgun crusaders face problem with managing wrath??

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QUOTE(gh0sty @ Jun 23 2014, 12:02 PM)
Downtime is about 2secs... The website sabenarian linked is very accurate...
Nice share... Very exact calculations... All I need now is a hellskull with 8% CDR to achieve 55% (perma AC)

Btw, do you shotgun crusaders face problem with managing wrath??
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wow 2 secs... that's as good as perma AC...

May be is time for me to put some effort/ resource on full Akkhan set, since it's valid for both shotgun and darklight build. (Unfortunately I have neither darklight nor FOTF rclxub.gif )
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jun 23 2014, 01:03 PM)
wow 2 secs... that's as good as perma AC...

May be is time for me to put some effort/ resource on full Akkhan set, since it's valid for both shotgun and darklight build. (Unfortunately I have neither darklight nor FOTF  rclxub.gif  )
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For 1H with Fevor, I can get like 58% with is more than perma AC.
For 2H, You need at least 7 slots (out of 8 slots) with perfect CDR%. Or with Captain crimson set.

I currently running 2H (FotF) with EBERLI CHARO Shield, 48+% CDR. I found it much better than 1H Darklight. 3 beam Blessed ground trigger the AC proc nicely.

My build currently: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/mikeste...7/hero/43591679

Solo on T5 is most efficient for me.

Later I might try swap out Crimson set to Harrington + Hexing pant. Saw a cruz doing crazy dps. But I do need to find a Foth with CDR and a Hellskull first. sad.gif
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Jun 23 2014, 01:55 PM)
For 1H with Fevor, I can get like 58% with is more than perma AC.
For 2H, You need at least 7 slots (out of 8 slots) with perfect CDR%. Or with Captain crimson set.

I currently running 2H (FotF) with EBERLI CHARO Shield, 48+% CDR. I found it much better than 1H Darklight. 3 beam Blessed ground trigger the AC proc nicely.

My build currently: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/mikeste...7/hero/43591679

Solo on T5 is most efficient for me.

Later I might try swap out Crimson set to Harrington + Hexing pant. Saw a cruz doing crazy dps. But I do need to find a Foth with CDR and a Hellskull first. sad.gif
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QUOTE(gh0sty @ Jun 23 2014, 12:02 PM)
Downtime is about 2secs... The website sabenarian linked is very accurate...
Nice share... Very exact calculations... All I need now is a hellskull with 8% CDR to achieve 55% (perma AC)

Btw, do you shotgun crusaders face problem with managing wrath??
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For wrath, you can craft Reaper Wrap. Now is very easy to craft since no more need Leg Mat from Malthael. Mob drop a ton of globe.

****Scrap that****Also use AC with Embodiment of Power Rune. Wrath regen to 10. ****Scrap that****
Didn't notice you are playing Hardcore. Prophet a must for Hardcore character.

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Last weekend is a good weekend for me, upgraded my glove rclxms.gif

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How rare is FOTF ? Started playing crusader and got the firestarter darklight up and running, but i would like to move on from it because the cam shake is a bit unsettling and not to mention i play with a wiz and another shield sader and the combined spell effects is melting my pc!
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jun 24 2014, 01:55 PM)
How rare is FOTF ? Started playing crusader and got the firestarter darklight up and running, but i would like to move on from it because the cam shake is a bit unsettling and not to mention i play with a wiz and another shield sader and the combined spell effects is melting my pc!
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I get nausea playing with darklight crusaders.... How rare is fotf?? Some ppl might tell they get it very often and some ppl like me... Got it after 15k elite kills on my captain America...
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I get nausea playing with darklight crusaders.... How rare is fotf?? Some ppl might tell they get it very often and some ppl like me... Got it after 15k elite kills on my captain America...
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Waah sounds like a rare weapon. Sigh. Looks like i gotta eat some asam while playing the sader biggrin.gif
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For first time since ROS, Bliz gave me Darklight last night at T6...

Not much like it....still prefer FOTF..
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I really wonder how come so many of you got FOTF!? It's like never drop for me...

Anyway last time I complained the same to Gryfalcon, ended up got 3 tongue.gif

Anyway currently taking a break from this game... everyday farm until 2am is rclxub.gif
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Found another FOFT few days back, dmg range around 26++ without socket.
Still looking for 1 with socket so can roll 10% CDR. rclxub.gif
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Found another FOFT few days back, dmg range around 26++ without socket.
Still looking for 1 with socket so can roll 10% CDR. rclxub.gif
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Found 1 with a socket but brankrupted myself rerolling for that CDR... Highest is 9%
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jun 25 2014, 01:20 PM)
tried reroll my shield to CDR today..damn wasted my FS and gold onli... vmad.gif now 3s AC downtime..need at least 14% CDR from gears to get perma AC..
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Wonder what happened to Moogle... He hasn't been posting lately...
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sorta on break now from D3. Nothing much happening anyway >->; For a time i even started playing Barbarian to farm Immortal King's for my barb pet build. Then i ended up farming paragorn just for the lulz with dragon clan, which they by the way ended up making me play Crus again seeing as we could farm malt faster that way. Then got bored of that then went into semi retirement.

Played a bit of final fantasy 3 but on break on that as well. Then i was downloading anime/manga and catching up laugh.gif fixing my collection on my QNAP smbs (crc checks, dupes wut not >_>: )

Probably will be playing more once my new AH-IPS U2413 monitor arrives. want to test if the overshooting will be an issue for Diablo 3 or not xd.

Even my buddy Egg he was a bit meh of wanting to play Diablo 3, cause he too ran out of things to do. I don't see why those dragon clanners are trying to farm beyond 800 paragorn doh.gif even with the nice xp, you still have to put in the time, but i didn't see much gain in it. It's like 5 main stat for each level once you had maxed out everything else with a fixed max value. I think gabi mentioned it took him something like 70 billion exp or so just to level up now ..... crazy rclxub.gif

Anyhow last i checked the main updates to crus would be in the major patch which probably isn't due until 1-2 months time according to a bluepost. My Crusader is more or less maxed. I did try to get a better glove with max cdr, as well as that witching hour, but eluded me sad.gif

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 27 2014, 09:10 AM)
sorta on break now from D3. Nothing much happening anyway >->; For a time i even started playing Barbarian to farm Immortal King's for my barb pet build. Then i ended up farming paragorn just for the lulz with dragon clan, which they by the way ended up making me play Crus again seeing as we could farm malt faster that way. Then got bored of that then went into semi retirement.

Played a bit of final fantasy 3 but on break on that as well. Then i was downloading anime/manga and catching up  laugh.gif  fixing my collection on my QNAP smbs (crc checks, dupes wut not >_>: )

Probably will be playing more once my new AH-IPS U2413 monitor arrives. want to test if the overshooting will be an issue for Diablo 3 or not xd.

Even my buddy Egg he was a bit meh of wanting to play Diablo 3, cause he too ran out of things to do. I don't see why those dragon clanners are trying to farm beyond 800 paragorn doh.gif even with the nice xp, you still have to put in the time, but i didn't see much gain in it. It's like 5 main stat for each level once you had maxed out everything else with a fixed max value. I think gabi mentioned it took him something like 70 billion exp or so just to level up now ..... crazy  rclxub.gif

Anyhow last i checked the main updates to crus would be in the major patch which probably isn't due until 1-2 months time according to a bluepost. My Crusader is more or less maxed. I did try to get a better glove with max cdr, as well as that witching hour, but eluded me  sad.gif
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Hi guys, just got myself ROS yesterday and tested out the Crusader. Love it. Anyway if I am aiming for solo play what kind of build should I aim for?

Also been away from the game for quite some time but for the paragon point, how do I priotize which is essential?

Thank you for any advice
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QUOTE(soul_fly9900 @ Jun 27 2014, 03:15 PM)
Hi guys, just got myself ROS yesterday and tested out the Crusader. Love it. Anyway if I am aiming for solo play what kind of build should I aim for?

Also been away from the game for quite some time but for the paragon point, how do I priotize which is essential?

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Ah sorry, totally forgot to check the 1st page. That shows how much time I'd been away from forum lol. Anyway my crusader is just starting, now at level 31. Ign Shadowlord #1421. Have not really focused on what skill is good yet but I pick now on what looks cool lol, falling sword - part the sky is what I like the most now, like thor tongue.gif

Edit : Darn it, every single information is on the 1st page (arranged nicely in fact) and I totally missed to read them yesterday doh.gif .

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PTR 2.1 is up. Time to wake up and keep grinding. biggrin.gif
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I updated changelog front page. I didn't add everything (there are many changes not necessarily just for Crusaders, but impacts them greatly, e.g. legendary gems, new socketable potion for weapon etc which i didn't include).

Wow.... i'm very excited by these changes..... from what i understand....

1. phalanx is going to get a set ..... there is no doubt, seeing as they added a bunch of complimentary legs for phalanx build. it feels though that this phalanx may still be based on CDR for recasting, so it won't be like immortal king set I SUSPECT !! but still, there are items that extend it, so maybe it could be possible for 100% upkeep if using CDR, very likely.

2. condemn is back baby ! this time though it's going to need the new condemn shield (not that useless akarat's awakening), in order to have 0 cooldown for using condemn. That is just insanely GOOD !!!! This to me seems that a T6 viable build will only be possible with a combination of blade of awakening + this new shield with 0 cooldown. Tbh i'm more of a condemn fan than i was of heavens fire build, so i'm rooting for this new update.



QUOTE(soul_fly9900 @ Jun 27 2014, 04:19 PM)
Ah sorry, totally forgot to check the 1st page. That shows how much time I'd been away from forum lol. Anyway my crusader is just starting, now at level 31. Ign Shadowlord #1421. Have not really focused on what skill is good yet but I pick now on what looks cool lol, falling sword - part the sky is what I like the most now, like thor  tongue.gif

Edit : Darn it, every single information is on the 1st page (arranged nicely in fact) and I totally missed to read them yesterday  doh.gif .
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I try my best to keep it updated, but i don't always provide the full changelog details. Instead i would normally link to an external site where you can read the changelog there seeing as it's already nicely formated. Doesn't make sense to do double work for what is already provided :}

When 2.1 comes out, i may need to update t6 viable builds to include phalanx and condemn, which seem to get a boost in this patch. But we will need to wait for this to be confirmed smile.gif


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The 0 CDR on Condemn shield are seasonal reward. Need to farm/grind from lvl1. PITA.
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Jun 29 2014, 11:50 PM)
The 0 CDR on Condemn shield are seasonal reward. Need to farm/grind from lvl1. PITA.
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The 0 CDR on Condemn shield are seasonal reward. Need to farm/grind from lvl1. PITA.
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okay this.... i did not know.... but DAYUM!!! drool.gif i want one !

How exactly does seasonal award work i don't understand. Is it you have to find this shield during the season ? Or do you get it only after season ends ? hmm.gif

i can predict opness for this. even before the condemn wasn't truly zero seconds, because you were using the akarat champion to try and shave off some seconds each time your attack hit. Whereas this new seasonal shield is a GUARANTEED 0 seconds !!! that is insane ....

limiting factor is the high cost to cast though doh.gif Your going to need to leverage on

- cost reduction
- possibly even health orb drop chance
- reaper wraps as usual (for the quick refills you are definitely going to need)
- maybe still cdr gear so you can recast akarat champion (because the skill you can increase your wrath regen for good condemn spam. Ironic because although you have a 0 cdr shield, you'd still need cdr for other core skills. Unless they intend to make a condemn set or other items that would not make it necessary)

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My crusader is level 70 finally. Now time to get some new shinies for my crusader biggrin.gif .

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My crusader is level 70 finally. Now time to get some new shinies for my crusader  biggrin.gif .

My profile : http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ShadowL...1/hero/49897781, a work in progress
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My crusader is level 70 finally. Now time to get some new shinies for my crusader  biggrin.gif .

My profile : http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ShadowL...1/hero/49897781, a work in progress
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bro go for the bounties cache farming in normal mode just ignore the mass spawns as your priority is to complete the bounties quest and farm 1 act at a time stash around 15 ~ 20 cache then go open em in the act 1 inn
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bro go for the bounties cache farming in normal mode just ignore the mass spawns as your priority is to complete the bounties quest and farm 1 act at a time stash around 15 ~ 20 cache then go open em in the act 1 inn
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Oh didnt know of this, but why the inn? Easier to pickup loots?
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where all the saders? tongue.gif all afk till 2.1?
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where all the saders?  tongue.gif  all afk till 2.1?
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The screen shakes with Darklight.

Very high class.
Walking in the park at T5.
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:49 AM

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Shotgun all day can die of boredom.... now roll Dh for a fresh change.
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You'll LOVE this change, thank you blizzard. You've done it again. Datamined from DiabloFans :



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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jul 18 2014, 05:11 AM)
You'll LOVE this change, thank you blizzard. You've done it again. Datamined from DiabloFans :
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blizzard full support crusader however any change,also imba .....everyone was played this class sure realize...
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- editted - (sorry haven't see the new 2H buff post)

Why not just make it more crazy: while using heavenly strength, can either 2H in 1 hand or dual wield 1H weapon.

(just imagine a crusader swinging 2 flails at once and keep hitting himself)

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jul 18 2014, 05:11 AM)
You'll LOVE this change, thank you blizzard. You've done it again. Datamined from DiabloFans :
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"The base damage range of all two-handed melee weapons has been increased by approximately 23-26% depending on the speed of the weapon, with slower weapons receiving a slightly higher increase
This change will retroactively apply to existing items
This change will apply to all item rarities
As a direct result of this change, the Crusader Passive Skill, Heavenly Strength has also been adjusted"
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QUOTE(PirateKing @ Jul 20 2014, 04:54 PM)
"The base damage range of all two-handed melee weapons has been increased by approximately 23-26% depending on the speed of the weapon, with slower weapons receiving a slightly higher increase
This change will retroactively apply to existing items
This change will apply to all item rarities
As a direct result of this change, the Crusader Passive Skill, Heavenly Strength has also been adjusted"
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It could be a bad news for existing 2H flail users.
They might need to farm the weapon again in Patch 2.1.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 21 2014, 09:57 AM)
It could be a bad news for existing 2H flail users.
They might need to farm the weapon again in Patch 2.1.
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Dont think so, it read somewhere at forum..it retroactive mean that your current existing 2h weapon even in storage will benefit this buff ( once new patch hits the server your current 2h weapon also will be affected.)
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It is retroactive I kept my spare 2647 dps fotf just for 2.1. With ramalandhis, I get to roll dmg % and add a socket. So I the -20% won't make much of a difference.
In calculation it's actually a slight buff.

No AC: 1.6% damage increase
With AC: 6.62% increase

This is just to balance out crusader with all other classes using 2handers. Still, we get to equip a shield.
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jul 21 2014, 08:55 PM)
It is retroactive I kept my spare 2647 dps fotf just for 2.1. With ramalandhis, I get to roll dmg % and add a socket. So I the -20% won't make much of a difference.
In calculation it's actually a slight buff.

No AC: 1.6% damage increase
With AC: 6.62% increase

This is just to balance out crusader with all other classes using 2handers. Still, we get to equip a shield.
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jul 21 2014, 11:07 PM)
is dis ramadalanis is season item only?
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Either rift or GR but definitely not seasonal only. This is how it works :

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Presently Ramalandi's Gift has an incorrect tooltip and patch note, which makes it very confusing to decipher how it's supposed to work. Also, the item is not yet fully implemented, which means it can't be looted right now (even though it's dropping on the PTR). We're aware of that issue, but we don't have an ETA to share at the moment on when we expect it to be 100% functional.

That said, here's how Ramalandi's Gift is currently intended to work. This is all with the caveat that it's still under development, and potentially subject to change:

It will add a socket to an unsocketed weapon
It only works on weapons
It will work on enchanted weapons, so long as they don't have a socket
It effectively adds an item affix in the form of a socket

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FoTF vs Darklight.

I don't see a debate on this.
What's your thought? Which is better?

I personally found Darklight can kill way faster than FoTF in T5/T6 solo.
Of course, perma Akarat and additional 15% CDR play their part in Darklight. The only con is the techno-shaky screen.

Your thought?

P/S
I tried both FoTF and Darklight.
Both builds stack the same amount of holy/fire damage.
Same gears used generally. The difference is the CDR which affects the up time of Akarat's champion.
I tested both weapons in Akarat's champion mode (to ensure CDR is not the bottleneck in testing the weapons).
How I tested?
I go to Warrior's Rest @ T5.
Activate Akarat's champion.
Activate 7-sec ironskin and start killing.
With darklight, I killed all the mobs + elites below 7-sec.
With FoTF, I needed more than 7-sec to kill all mobs + elites (ironkin expired).

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 22 2014, 12:30 PM)
FoTF vs Darklight.

I don't see a debate on this.
What's your thought? Which is better?

I personally found Darklight can kill way faster than FoTF in T5/T6 solo.
Of course, perma Akarat and additional 15% CDR play their part in Darklight. The only con is the techno-shaky screen.

Your thought?

P/S
I tried both FoTF and Darklight.
Both builds stack the same amount of holy/fire damage.
Same gears used generally. The difference is the CDR which affects the up time of Akarat's champion.
I tested both weapons in Akarat's champion mode (to ensure CDR is not the bottleneck in testing the weapons).
How I tested?
I go to Warrior's Rest @ T5.
Activate Akarat's champion.
Activate 7-sec ironskin and start killing.
With darklight, I killed all the mobs + elites below 7-sec.
With FoTF, I needed more than 7-sec to kill all mobs + elites (ironkin expired).
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if shotgun build try (laws of valor rune critical )hav much different.

imo im prefer shotgun build better then FOTH build ..lol

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 22 2014, 11:30 AM)
FoTF vs Darklight.

I don't see a debate on this.
What's your thought? Which is better?

I personally found Darklight can kill way faster than FoTF in T5/T6 solo.
Of course, perma Akarat and additional 15% CDR play their part in Darklight. The only con is the techno-shaky screen.

Your thought?

P/S
I tried both FoTF and Darklight.
Both builds stack the same amount of holy/fire damage.
Same gears used generally. The difference is the CDR which affects the up time of Akarat's champion.
I tested both weapons in Akarat's champion mode (to ensure CDR is not the bottleneck in testing the weapons).
How I tested?
I go to Warrior's Rest @ T5.
Activate Akarat's champion.
Activate 7-sec ironskin and start killing.
With darklight, I killed all the mobs + elites below 7-sec.
With FoTF, I needed more than 7-sec to kill all mobs + elites (ironkin expired).
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darklight build can benefit from 1H passive fevor~~

Anyway mind to share your skillset on this build? I wanna try this but not sure should focus on fire dmg or holy.
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jul 22 2014, 02:25 PM)
darklight build can benefit from 1H passive fevor~~

Anyway mind to share your skillset on this build? I wanna try this but not sure should focus on fire dmg or holy.
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For Darklight, I use fire build.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/crus...ZWbS!ZbYZYa

For FotF, I use holy build.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/crus...aWgS!cbYZYY

If you use Darklight, fire build is better.
It's easy to stack 56% CDR with passive Fevor.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 22 2014, 03:33 PM)
For Darklight, I use fire build.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/crus...ZWbS!ZbYZYa

For FotF, I use holy build.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/crus...aWgS!cbYZYY

If you use Darklight, fire build is better.
It's easy to stack 56% CDR with passive Fevor.
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thanks man, yeah seems heaven's tempest is the way to go (consider I'm a fire cap 'murica at the moment)

Need to farm darklight and do lots of testing, I still wonder how u all go without wrath generator... unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jul 22 2014, 03:45 PM)
thanks man, yeah seems heaven's tempest is the way to go (consider I'm a fire cap 'murica at the moment)

Need to farm darklight and do lots of testing, I still wonder how u all go without wrath generator...  unsure.gif
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Without wrath generator, you'll need following gears and skill.
Full Akkhan set + in Akarat's champion mode + Reaper's Wraps bracer + Skill/Laws of Valor - Unstoppable Force
(Without fervor or use of 2H wep, you'll need provoke/charged up to get wrath)

I never looted FotF. I got mine from presentme. He gave it to me.
However, I have got 4-5 Darklights so far.

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I need another darklight. My 1 and only so rubbish I dont bother using it. Better farm wif me aleune. I got spare fotf keeping for 2.1 reroll
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jul 23 2014, 12:06 AM)
I need another darklight. My 1 and only so rubbish I dont bother using it. Better farm wif me aleune. I got spare fotf keeping for 2.1 reroll
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jul 23 2014, 12:06 AM)
I need another darklight. My 1 and only so rubbish I dont bother using it. Better farm wif me aleune. I got spare fotf keeping for 2.1 reroll
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 23 2014, 02:10 AM)
Sure thing. We can go walk-walk.  laugh.gif
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Anyone make good use of Law of Valor / Answered Prayer?

It gives you virtually a PERMA-FREE attack speed.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2014, 12:25 PM)
Anyone make good use of Law of Valor / Answered Prayer?

It gives you virtually a PERMA-FREE attack speed.
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no... always use the crit dmg rune.
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jul 25 2014, 02:32 PM)
no... always use the crit dmg rune.
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Try it.
Use Answered prayer rune to kill @ festering woods.
Until you stack up 3 minutes cool down.

Then switch back to other rune you like.

The attack speed bonus will stay as long as 3 mins. And it refreshes every time you hit the law of valor.
(Note: If you use Critical rune, the additional CD will last only last 5-10 sec (with passive). But the attack speed bonus stay as long as 3 min. It's like snapshot).

Not sure whether it's a bug or what. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2014, 02:36 PM)
Try it.
Use Answered prayer rune to kill @ festering woods.
Until you stack up 3 minutes cool down.

Then switch back to other rune you like.

The attack speed bonus will stay as long as 3 mins. And it refreshes every time you hit the law of valor.
(Note: If you use Critical rune, the additional CD will last only last 5-10 sec (with passive). But the attack speed bonus stay as long as 3 min. It's like snapshot).

Not sure whether it's a bug or what.  laugh.gif
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wow really, according to the tooltip it can only increase maximum 10 seconds?
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jul 25 2014, 02:47 PM)
wow really, according to the tooltip it can only increase maximum 10 seconds?
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Yeah, I got it stack like 4-5 mins.
The more you kill the longer duration you get.

I think it's a bug. laugh.gif

Correction: Typo. Damn phone!!!

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 25 2014, 02:50 PM)
Yeah, I got it stack like 4-5 mins.
The more you kill the longer duration you get.

I think it's a bug.  laugh.gif

Correction: Typo. Damn phone!!!
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jul 25 2014, 03:49 PM)
thanks for sharing, must do it tonight!
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You can see the picture.
The attack speed of law of valor can last 3 mins.


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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2014, 01:29 AM)
You can see the picture.
The attack speed of law of valor can last 3 mins.
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-- edited --

Finally got it, and I found the key point: CDR.

The thing is, you need to make sure you got enough CDR to make sure your Law cooled down before the effect expire (by keep killing mobs!)

Then immediately activate the Law again, then by this the time will stack and carry on.

The reason I can't do it is because my CDR only 26%, and killing enemy wont add more time after certain extend. (I noticed one)

I got this done when I'm under empower shrine effect, which boost my CDR to 60%, then I got to enjoy this permanent increase attack speed while using other law nod.gif

Anyway hope noone big mouth brag about it on blizz forum and then got nerfed.

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jul 26 2014, 10:40 AM)
-- edited --

Finally got it, and I found the key point: CDR.

The thing is, you need to make sure you got enough CDR to make sure your Law cooled down before the effect expire (by keep killing mobs!)

Then immediately activate the Law again, then by this the time will stack and carry on.

The reason I can't do it is because my CDR only 26%, and killing enemy wont add more time after certain extend. (I noticed one)

I got this done when I'm under empower shrine effect, which boost my CDR to 60%, then I got to enjoy this permanent increase attack speed while using other law  nod.gif

Anyway hope noone big mouth brag about it on blizz forum and then got nerfed.
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Thanks for going into detail and sharing info. thumbup.gif
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hi guy

Holy shot gun build or fire starter build which build can easy solo T6 ..


@#@!$ this FOTF never drop !! darklight i have 3 already ..
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Aug 4 2014, 11:14 AM)
hi guy

Holy shot gun build or fire starter build which build can easy solo T6 ..
@#@!$ this FOTF never drop !! darklight i have 3 already ..
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Starting my new cru...

Got fotf and grfy/jengka... Not sure which to use... Only 1 akkhan piece... Play fotf no wrath!!
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Aug 4 2014, 07:03 PM)
Starting my new cru...

Got fotf and grfy/jengka... Not sure which to use... Only 1 akkhan piece... Play fotf no wrath!!
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new crusader already got FOTF. so lucky . u need full set of akkhan . and make sure u got atleast 55% CDR + reaper's warps + skill provoke to supply u wraths .
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jekang build/ Capt 'Murica build is the easiest among them laugh.gif Just mindlessly piang piang piang ~~~
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Aug 4 2014, 11:41 AM)
gimme your darklight !!! cry.gif
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if not BOA / i give u 2 darklight tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Aug 5 2014, 02:13 PM)
if not BOA / i  give u 2 darklight  tongue.gif
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looks like darklight is seeded to your character's loot table, carry me on rift master! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Aug 5 2014, 02:04 PM)
new crusader already got FOTF. so lucky . u need full set of akkhan . and make sure u got atleast 55% CDR + reaper's warps + skill provoke to supply u wraths .
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Is ppl give my dh last time when running rift biggrin.gif
55% cdr??? That's crazy considering diminishing returns on stacking.

QUOTE(Vorador @ Aug 5 2014, 02:08 PM)
jekang build/ Capt 'Murica build is the easiest among them laugh.gif Just mindlessly piang piang piang ~~~
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I tried and seems not very strong.. Also seem to make ppl laggy? Lol
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Aug 5 2014, 03:40 PM)
Is ppl give my dh last time when running rift biggrin.gif
55% cdr??? That's crazy considering diminishing returns on stacking.
I tried and seems not very strong.. Also seem to make ppl laggy? Lol
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nope, darklight is the one lag the whole screen, but it's much stronger build than Capt 'Murica build.

Capt 'Murica is quite ok, atleast mine is able to solo on T5. (fire build)
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Aug 5 2014, 03:40 PM)
Is ppl give my dh last time when running rift biggrin.gif
55% cdr??? That's crazy considering diminishing returns on stacking.
I tried and seems not very strong.. Also seem to make ppl laggy? Lol
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this guide got Crusader's beginer built and end games T6 built .

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13139344113

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Aug 5 2014, 02:21 PM)
looks like darklight is seeded to your character's loot table, carry me on rift master!  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Aug 5 2014, 05:04 PM)
this guide got Crusader's beginer built and end games T6 built .

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13139344113
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i think cdr 55% not too hard to get, need to sacrifice some paper dps

fervor 15%, captain set 10%, helm 12.5%, from shoulder/ gloves / rings

nice link sharing from nagflar,
would want to try out: Consecration - Shattered Ground instead of provoke, after provoke, they all gang up on me nia

somemore my cru so tofu, so i use laws of hope (more health globe)

waiting for a better shield.. when is luck coming? and dont go starting on fotf drop...

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u may lose some dps on sheet in order to get 55% cdR . but when u get perma AC. u get 35%damage boost if not mistake . + 5 wrath regeneration per second . that is huge .


Consecration - Shattered Ground this skill is awesome do ton of damage . max i saw is 50M.
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QUOTE

New Crusader Set
DiabloFans Quote:
Set Name - Roland's Legacy
2 Piece Bonus - +500 Strength.
4 Piece Bonus - Increases Shield Bash Damage by 100%. Increases Sweep Attack Damage by 100%.
6 Piece Bonus - Every use of Shield Bash or Sweep Attack that hits an enemy grants 20% increased Attack Speed for 3 seconds. This effect stacks up to 5 times.
Unique_Helm_Set_01_p1 - Roland's Visage
Unique_Shoulder_Set_01_p1 - Roland's Mantle
Unique_Chest_Set_01_p1 - Roland's Bearing
Unique_Pants_Set_01_p1 - Roland's Determination
Unique_Boots_Set_01_p1 - Roland's Stride
Unique_Gloves_Set_01_p1 - Roland's Grasp
new set , new build !! thumbup.gif
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Just had a good read up on ptr changes. Looks like maximus is going to be super OP. Ppl are getting 17m to 25m hits per tick from fire chains

Bug Fixes
Legendary items that directly deal damage should now all properly benefit from the appropriate +% Elemental Damage item affix, including:
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Maximus - +%Fire Damage

Going to try it out on ptr.
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Holy shotgun build, what kind of crits are you guys seeing? I can only manage 20-30 mill crits.
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Aug 7 2014, 10:37 AM)
Holy shotgun build, what kind of crits are you guys seeing? I can only manage 20-30 mill crits.
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Yes, that's the range of damage.
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Just had a good read up on ptr changes. Looks like maximus is going to be super OP. Ppl are getting 17m to 25m hits per tick from fire chains

Bug Fixes
Legendary items that directly deal damage should now all properly benefit from the appropriate +% Elemental Damage item affix, including:
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Maximus - +%Fire Damage

Going to try it out on ptr.
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Even the fire chain of current Maximus is OP.
You need to position in order to use the fire chain to hit the mobs.
It's not quite practical because the mobs are in motion. And there is a downtime of fire chain.
By the time you have the right position, those with FoTF and Darklight have already killed all the mobs and they are like 30-40 yards away from where you stand. tongue.gif

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Fist of Heavens and Heaven's Fury combo, with Darklight & Eberli Charo, is very powerful.

100% up time, perma Akarat's Champion & perma Heaven's Fury.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 7 2014, 11:52 AM)
Even the fire chain of current Maximus is OP.
You need to position in order to use the fire chain to hit the mobs.
It's not quite practical because the mobs are in motion. 
By the time you have the right position, those with FoTF and Darklight have already killed all the mobs and they are like 30-40 yards away from where you stand.  tongue.gif
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Really depends. I ran with some maximus users and I've seen them kill faster then my holy shotgun with firestarter and yes positioning skill will make gameplay much more fun rather then stand there and pshh pshh pshh.. I almost felll asleep a few times.
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by the way guys/girls .... please private message me once v2.1 goes live (not ptr). Then i will resume diablo 3 ....XD

Till then i'm gonna go catch up on my anime and manga till then laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 9 2014, 09:56 PM)
by the way guys/girls .... please private message me once v2.1 goes live (not ptr). Then i will resume diablo 3 ....XD

Till then i'm gonna go catch up on my anime and manga till then  laugh.gif
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hmm.gif Anybody knows when v2.1 will go live ???
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QUOTE(fungling2002 @ Aug 12 2014, 10:05 AM)
hmm.gif Anybody knows when v2.1 will go live ???
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Rumor was late OCT/ NOV (rumour only lar, who knows many be blizz decided to release next week tongue.gif )

But if this rumor is true the I'll be in trouble, as this will be big gaming season...

- Assassins Creed Unity
- GTA 5 (base on the 'accident' sales date on Amazon)
- Call of Duty Advance Warefare
- dan lain-lain.
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seems a lot ppl waiting for 2.1, including my colleagues too.. farming with my crusader alone is doh.gif ..and the rate seems reduced ...wayyy tooo much?

also, no more lowyat clan? I'm late .. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 7 2014, 12:03 PM)
Fist of Heavens and Heaven's Fury combo, with Darklight & Eberli Charo, is very powerful.

100% up time, perma Akarat's Champion & perma Heaven's Fury.
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Just started playing crusader. I'm looking forward to this build. How's it working out for you sir?

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Just started playing crusader. I'm looking forward to this build. How's it working out for you sir?
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It works well @ T6.
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Well, just watch Cap America Winter Soldier.

The way he toss the shield and bounces, my mind thinking " damn cap america need jekangbord lol"
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QUOTE(PirateKing @ Aug 15 2014, 08:12 PM)
Well, just watch Cap America Winter Soldier.

The way he toss the shield and bounces, my mind thinking " damn cap america need jekangbord lol"
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and he transmorg his Gryfalcon Foote into fist weapon which hardly see on screen whistling.gif
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spent 120m+ enchanting on ammy & shield for CDR so that i can perma AC with 2H weapon:

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previously was used 1h darklight with passive fervor. doh.gif


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QUOTE(dreaming @ Aug 21 2014, 01:47 PM)
spent 120m+ enchanting on ammy & shield for CDR so that i can perma AC with 2H weapon:

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deep hurt! i think i'm out of mind  rclxub.gif

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previously was used 1h darklight with passive fervor.  doh.gif
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2H weapon full 56% CDR. ? wow i impress . with captain set?
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2H weapon full 56% CDR. ? wow i impress . with captain set?
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yes, with captain set bonus 10%, and my 2H doesn't have cdr.
total cdr is 55.61%, couldn't reach 56% but then luckily still able to perma AC.

according to cdr calculator, AC duration = 20 secs, reduced cool down with 55.61% = 19.98 secs laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 15 2014, 07:44 PM)
It works well @ T6.
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How's that compare to your FotF build? Darklight+Eberli VS FotF? Pro Con maybe? flex.gif flex.gif
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How's that compare to your FotF build? Darklight+Eberli VS FotF? Pro Con maybe?  flex.gif  flex.gif
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hey bro, i'm a newbie crusader.
i got a free darklight from party member so i started crusader with Firestarter and just starting shotgun after looted a FoTF recently. both builds are good and deal tons of damages.

Here is my personal opinion:

Darklight with AC Firestart featuring Eberli Charo with Heaven Fury
Pros:
1. very easy to achieve 56% CDR for permanant AC due to passive Fervor +15% CDR
2. high damage against stagnant/slow moving enemies
3. Firestater get triggered as long as you deal damage via skills or items special effect like Firewalker's burning on ground & Bul-kathos ring's drain nearby enemies life.
4. with Eberli Charo, Heaven Fury is up 100%, so it is a free source to trigger Firestarter.
5. Firestarter burns can be stacked. I saw white burning number like 50m+ to 60m+ every secs when dealing damage by multiple sources.

Cons:
1. fixed to only 1 AC rune - Firestarter. Couldn't use other runes like Prophet (+150% armor) which is very tanky.
2. Darklight's free Fist of Heaven is triggered on your char. Have to get close to the enemies to maximize the burning damage.
3. weak against fast pace elites.
4. always get killed by elites dead's explosion because Fist of Heaven burning is overlapping with explosion. It caused nearby party member dead too if they didn't notice it. sad.gif
5. gameplay is full of burning effect, party member might felt annoying.


FoTF shotgun
Pros:
1. deal tons of damage if all 3 rays hit the same target.
2. versatile to use any AC's runes - prophet, embodiment, firestarter, etc
3. easy to target easy to play

Cons:
1. difficult to stack 56% cdr without passive Fervor
2. wraith cost is higher than Fist of Heaven. so, please spend it wisely smile.gif

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FOTF build.
i got 52-53 % CDR . AC downtime is about 1-3.sec. because i drop captain set .

now using SOJ and Unity ring . 1 unity on follower. very good for solo T6 .

darklight build - good for solo and AOE damage .

FOTF- good for team play and single burst damage .

i dont like Darklight because it will tear off your screen. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kozekz @ Aug 21 2014, 04:39 PM)
How's that compare to your FotF build? Darklight+Eberli VS FotF? Pro Con maybe?  flex.gif  flex.gif
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Yes, there are pros and cons.

Both are viable builds for T6.

I personally prefer Darklight + Eberli more than FoTF.

Darklight/Eberli
Pros
1) High damage. It seems to clear faster than my shortgun build in solo T6 (Note: It's open for debate, some claim they have godly stutter step skills).
2) 1H build. Easier to stack CDR (56% or more). That means easier and flexible to gear up (For example, use magefist and drop Captain Crimson's set) .
3) With high CDR, you get real perma Akarat's Champion and perma Heaven's fury/Ascendancy. No downtime at all. High CDR gives you faster cooldown for other skills too, such as shield glare, steel skin, steed charge etc etc.
4) Better wrath management. You can do T6 without shield glare/zealous glare, provoke/charged up and laws of valor/unstoppable force.
5) Less spamming of keyboard (as compared to stutter step of shortgun build using shift/space bar)
6) You won't fall asleep. Thanks to the "techno" screen and the spamming of Fist of Heavens and Heaven's Fury.
7) You don't have to worry the direction of your hit. Mobs around you will get hit anyway.
Cons
1) Shaky screen. Some people do not like such "techno" screen. And it's difficult to see explosion.
2) Reflect damage hurt shiat. You need to rely on steel skin + kite a bit to counter RD.

FotF/Shortgun build
Pros
1) The most tanky build among all class of heroes with awesome damage, this is especially when you use Akarat's Champion/Prophet. Who cares about reflect damage? RD is deadly for darlight/FotH build but it's child's play for shortgun build.
2) Again, it's still very damn solid tanky. If you use steel skin + Countess Julia's Cameo, you can pretty much ignore all elemental attacks. You walk in like a boss.
3) Non-shaky screen
4) Stutter steps help you to kill fast (Note: It's open for debate. It can be a pro for some people and it can be a con for some)
Cons
1) There is downtime of Akarat's Champion for most people. Generally CDR is not as easy to obtain as 1H build.
2) That tells you wrath is not as easy to manage. You can do without shield glare/zealous glare, but you still need provoke/charged up and laws of valor/unstoppable force. You need at least 2 out of 3 wrath generators generally.
3) You may get sleepy at times because it's shortgun right from the beginning until the end. Get what I mean?
4) You need to aim the mobs. You need to make sure you hit it at the right direction. There is blind spot at times.

This is what I can think of for now.
Feel free to add if you see other pros and cons of both builds.

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IMO shotgun build with FOTH build is the same for me ,one is holy element other is fire element cant say which build is best ,just which build u own feel more fun both also can deal high dmg .sometime switch different build to run wont easy get boring...
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QUOTE(dreaming @ Aug 21 2014, 07:11 PM)
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4. always get killed by elites dead's explosion because Fist of Heaven burning is overlapping with explosion. It caused nearby party member dead too if they didn't notice it. sad.gif
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Happened to me a lot.. Still haven't get use to it.

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 21 2014, 07:32 PM)
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2) Reflect damage hurt shiat. You need to rely on steel skin + kite a bit to counter RD. 
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oOh..So, this is why my life drained so fast.. With the wizard before, RD or not, it's kinda feel the same.

Thanks guys. I haven't loot Eberli or FoTF (not sure if this worth mentioning, got A Mortal Drama, any good?) and still stuck with 2 Akkhan. RoRG also not so good. So I'm sticking with Cindercoat and sometime Magefist for now. But it's sure fun build to play. And Heaven's Tempest is so Happening or "techno" as you called it. It takes you a while to get sleepy. My item not so good, so for now, i could only managed to get 8M+ per FotH before AC

My CDR also not that great, still trying to complete the gems, will try to roll CDR later. But i have no problem with the wrath, at least at T3/T4.

But DAMN ALeUNe, your item is sooO good, i could feel the force only by watching them. 15%+15% FotH on Helm and Boots somemore. So good. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Aug 21 2014, 07:26 PM)
FOTF build.
i got 52-53 % CDR . AC downtime is about 1-3.sec. because i drop captain set .

now using SOJ and Unity ring . 1 unity on follower. very good for solo T6 .

darklight build - good for solo and AOE damage .

FOTF- good for team play and single burst damage .

i dont like Darklight because it will tear off your screen.  tongue.gif
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blush.gif hahah, owhh so this is why they even inventing it. Feeling so left behind. Before like, "how do i know if my clanmate ever wearing it, i'm not going to inspect them everytieme"
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QUOTE(kozekz @ Aug 21 2014, 08:36 PM)
Happened to me a lot.. Still haven't get use to it.
oOh..So, this is why my life drained so fast.. With the wizard before, RD or not, it's kinda feel the same.

Thanks guys. I haven't loot Eberli or FoTF (not sure if this worth mentioning, got A Mortal Drama, any good?) and still stuck with 2 Akkhan. RoRG also not so good. So I'm sticking with Cindercoat and sometime Magefist for now. But it's sure fun build to play. And Heaven's Tempest is so Happening or "techno" as you called it. It takes you a while to get sleepy. My item not so good, so for now, i could only managed to get 8M+ per FotH before AC

My CDR also not that great, still trying to complete the gems, will try to roll CDR later. But i have no problem with the wrath, at least at T3/T4.

But DAMN ALeUNe,  your item is sooO good, i could feel the force only by watching them. 15%+15% FotH on Helm and Boots somemore.  So good.   notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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My toon is averagely geared.

Only stack 20% fire damge.
No SoJ, never got a STR SoJ. doh.gif

It is only well geared if I have at least 60% Fire damage + SoJ.
I can get approx additional 50% damage if I can stack 40% more fire damage from ammy and SoJ + elite damage.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 22 2014, 03:07 AM)
My toon is averagely geared.

Only stack 20% fire damge.
No SoJ, never got a STR SoJ.  doh.gif

It is only well geared if I have at least 60% Fire damage + SoJ.
I can get approx additional 50% damage if I can stack 40% more fire damage from ammy and SoJ + elite damage.
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I see, another looted +Fire Damage on Julia's Cameo would be nice. And SoJ to replace your Leoric. Looking forward to see the upgrade. Will it be to sacrifice a bit of CDR if you put on SoJ?

I looted SoJ few days ago, but with 16% Holy, STR + VIT. What should i roll, or maybe just save for rainy days. And hoping to loot another one. sad.gif
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QUOTE(kozekz @ Aug 22 2014, 10:58 AM)
I see, another looted +Fire Damage on Julia's Cameo would be nice. And SoJ to replace your Leoric. Looking forward to see the upgrade. Will it be to sacrifice a bit of CDR if you put on SoJ?

I looted SoJ few days ago, but with 16% Holy, STR + VIT. What should i roll, or maybe just save for rainy days. And hoping to loot another one.  sad.gif
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Holy SoJ is awesome. You can keep it for shortgun build.
Roll VIT to CDR.
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er guys, as holy build cruzzy, is heaven's fury + fist of heaven fusion viable?

I tried yesterday, seems slightly better performance... hmm.gif

- Cast 3 heaven's fury light (with FOTF)
- nonstop cast fist of heaven (divine well)

Yes that's because I don't have a darklight cry.gif
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Aug 22 2014, 11:17 AM)
er guys, as holy build cruzzy, is heaven's fury + fist of heaven fusion viable?

I tried yesterday, seems slightly better performance... hmm.gif

- Cast 3 heaven's fury light (with FOTF)
- nonstop cast fist of heaven (divine well)

Yes that's because I don't have a darklight cry.gif
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Yes, viable build.

If you have Eberli, you can try 3xHeaven's Fury/Ascendancy + Fist of Heaven/Divine well.
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long time no post on forum,
regarding Crusader,
it is the best class on current version (my point of view)
high dps + high toughness

with new set in 2.1, crusader = OP, smile.gif

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hmm.gif Anybody knows when v2.1 will go live ???
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i heard weeks. My guess 1-3 months time.


Anyhow.... i noticed that the new ladder crusader shield makes 0 refresh cooldown, but requires more wrath hmm.gif

QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 22 2014, 11:15 AM)
Holy SoJ is awesome. You can keep it for shortgun build.
Roll VIT to CDR.
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getting bored of this build. yes it's good and does it's job, but dang :/ These days when i do play, i usually work on my barbarian ancient build xd laugh.gif

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QUOTE(spacejimmy @ Aug 22 2014, 01:32 PM)
long time no post on forum,
regarding Crusader,
it is the best class on current version (my point of view)
high dps + high toughness

with new set in 2.1, crusader = OP, smile.gif
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it's gonna make sweep attack dps comparable to holy shotgun shocking.gif
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i have a T6 holy shotgun crusader in EU server. is there anyone from LYN playing there?

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HI dear Crus!

Im still on Bless Shield Build and hopefully going to HolyShotgun soon™

Got this ring just now together with 2leg gems. Wondering, should I keep this ring as it is or roll of the stat to socket?
Or Roll the for higher CD/STR?

Thank you very much

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QUOTE(PirateKing @ Aug 27 2014, 01:55 PM)
HI dear Crus!

Im still on Bless Shield Build and hopefully going to HolyShotgun soon™

Got this ring just now together with 2leg gems. Wondering, should I keep this ring as it is or roll of the stat to socket?
Or Roll the for higher CD/STR?

Thank you very much

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Roll IAS to CDR.
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No more shaky screen for darklight.
Kinda like this patch. So far so good.
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Roll IAS to CDR.
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Oh, that unexpected haha.
I guess have to put socket into amulet then.

Thanks!
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Oh, that unexpected haha.
I guess have to put socket into amulet then.

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The rule of thumb is, you need to stack sufficient CDR.

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Logged in last nite, fotf became 3.4k and my buffed DPS jumped from 1.1 mil to 1.3mil ... I'm amazed ... Time to step up a notch ! Hope I don't die ! It's a pain to regear ...

Might give darksader build a try since my screen won't go all crazy with this new patch...
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QUOTE(gh0sty @ Aug 28 2014, 05:22 PM)
Logged in last nite, fotf became 3.4k and my buffed DPS jumped from 1.1 mil to 1.3mil ... I'm amazed ... Time to step up a notch ! Hope I don't die ! It's a pain to regear ...

Might give darksader build a try since my screen won't go all crazy with this new patch...
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No more techno screen. Blizz fixed that.
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Happy National Day fellow crusaders! As promise made to LYN Clan members my bid to get Malaysia's flag into US server's top 20 Crusaders fall a lil short. I don't want to give excuses but there's an interruption at the end of the Greater Rift I couldn't avoid. Next I'll focus on group play among LYN clan members to improve party efficiency.

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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Aug 31 2014, 05:03 PM)
Happy National Day fellow crusaders! As promise made to LYN Clan members my bid to get Malaysia's flag into US server's top 20 Crusaders fall a lil short. I don't want to give excuses but there's an interruption at the end of the Greater Rift I couldn't avoid. Next I'll focus on group play among LYN clan members to improve party efficiency.

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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Aug 31 2014, 04:03 PM)
Happy National Day fellow crusaders! As promise made to LYN Clan members my bid to get Malaysia's flag into US server's top 20 Crusaders fall a lil short. I don't want to give excuses but there's an interruption at the end of the Greater Rift I couldn't avoid. Next I'll focus on group play among LYN clan members to improve party efficiency.

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To do that, you need to be tough as nails too. laugh.gif
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aiks, blizz fixed da perma increase atk speed exploit... (for sader)
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aiks, blizz fixed da perma increase atk speed exploit... (for sader)
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Yes, you have all your skills reset every time you enter greater rift.
Other form of snapshotting is not possible too since you can't swap gears/skills anymore.
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QUOTE(Ricgatebecko @ Sep 1 2014, 11:27 AM)
Bid to make it to top 10 failed... but at least don't need to scroll down to see LYN. ROAR~!  flex.gif

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Thanks all, appreciate the feedback. Feel free to PM or ask me in-clan if you have any question.  thumbup.gif
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Holy SHIAT. There is really someone this strong among us rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
This will be a reminder of how godly weak my Cru is. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Care to share his profile/built etc.

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I am super saddened, before patch my crus is stronger than my DH can do T6 solo...

Now my DH is a lot stronger and can still solo T6 and almost finish GR32...while my crus is stuck at T4..at T5 its really a challenge.

But to be fair, I have never found any FoTF...Darklight build is somewhat nerfed as far as I can tell.
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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Sep 2 2014, 03:00 PM)
I am super saddened, before patch my crus is stronger than my DH can do T6 solo...

Now my DH is a lot stronger and can still solo T6 and almost finish GR32...while my crus is stuck at T4..at T5 its really a challenge.

But to be fair, I have never found any FoTF...Darklight build is somewhat nerfed as far as I can tell.
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I use darklight.
It can kill as fast as pre-patch 2.1 @ T6.
Could it be placebo?

DH is different when you do grift.
Because DH just cast and run.
However, for Crusader, you need to do close range attack. You can't cast and kill.
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Don't think its placebo.

My crusader is my main actually, but after the patch, at T5, I can die in Core of Arreat.

I don't know if it could due to the Elites having deadly prefixes or not but T5 is really stressing to play in. Haha.
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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Sep 2 2014, 08:05 PM)
Don't think its placebo.

My crusader is my main actually, but after the patch, at T5, I can die in Core of Arreat.

I don't know if it could due to the Elites having deadly prefixes or not but T5 is really stressing to play in. Haha.
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That's weird. My darklight Cru has fewer deaths since Blizz fix RD in patch 2.1.
It was always RD that killed my darklight Cru.

This is my skill set up.
Darklight combo with heaven's fury/ascendancy.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/crus...ZWbS!ZaZZaY
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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Sep 2 2014, 08:05 PM)
Don't think its placebo.

My crusader is my main actually, but after the patch, at T5, I can die in Core of Arreat.

I don't know if it could due to the Elites having deadly prefixes or not but T5 is really stressing to play in. Haha.
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I felt that after 2.1, T6 is abit faster to clear but they also do abit more dmg laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 2 2014, 08:17 PM)
That's weird. My darklight Cru has fewer deaths since Blizz fix RD in patch 2.1.
It was always RD that killed my darklight Cru.

This is my skill set up.
Darklight combo with heaven's fury/ascendancy.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/crus...ZWbS!ZaZZaY
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Holy shotgun & Darklight build still going VERY strong in 2.1... Dayum the game still insist not to drop a Darklight ot me! (Maybe because it's easier to achieve perma AC with Darklight build + much faster atk speed)

QUOTE(olman @ Sep 2 2014, 10:22 PM)
I felt that after 2.1, T6 is abit faster to clear but they also do abit more dmg  laugh.gif
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Maybe I need to do some tweaking with my build...
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as for crusader builds go, i'm using condemn build with the blade of prophecy combined with the new zero cooldown shield. very nice for low torments. i even use it for torment 4 rifting just fine.

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Sep 3 2014, 05:34 PM)
as for crusader builds go, i'm using condemn build with the blade of prophecy combined with the new zero cooldown shield. very nice for low torments. i even use it for torment 4 rifting just fine.
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how bout grift? can it be end game build? give more info please any problem u face using zero cooldown shield. dmg good?
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Anyone doing Roland build? I've only seen 1 cru using it in pub
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Sep 6 2014, 01:01 PM)
Anyone doing Roland build? I've only seen 1 cru using it in pub
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roland set melee build . doing good on T6/T5.

agree not as good as Akkan set on higher GR because cant Perma AC.
some say this set can not go higher than GR30

but who care atleast i got different play style.
Crusader is suppose to be melee class. boring with firestater/shortgun build ..
conclusion this is not endgames set . but can farm T6 sambil makan kacang tongue.gif

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QUOTE(nagflar @ Sep 8 2014, 11:52 AM)
roland set melee build . doing good on T6/T5.

agree not as good as Akkan set on higher GR because cant Perma AC.
some say this set can not go higher than GR30

but who care atleast i got different play style.
Crusader is suppose to be melee class. boring with firestater/shortgun build ..
conclusion this is not endgames set . but can farm T6 sambil makan kacang tongue.gif
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BTW, the current leader for Sader@Tier41 is using Roland set.
I might be wrong. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rlytoug...1/hero/43739280
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QUOTE(MatchMaker @ Sep 8 2014, 12:30 PM)
BTW, the current leader for Sader@Tier41 is using Roland set.
I might be wrong. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rlytoug...1/hero/43739280
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Doubt so, without perma AC.
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QUOTE(MatchMaker @ Sep 8 2014, 12:30 PM)
BTW, the current leader for Sader@Tier41 is using Roland set.
I might be wrong. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Rlytoug...1/hero/43739280
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 8 2014, 12:38 PM)
Doubt so, without perma AC.
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top player like to hide thier gear and built . this is what i read form official forum
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been busy playing 1st season sc doh.gif so i apologize not being able to maintain the thread xd.


That said just a reminder of these useful sites/tools to help you with the seasonal gear



http://bannedofgamers.com/index.php?cdr/


The most important thing from the CDR calculations is what is the downtime for your akkarat champion skill.

Sure you could aim for 0 downtime, but my preference is within 3-4 seconds. Because this gives me room to spend points elsewhere e.g. CHD/CHC


from what i've seen the ideal CDR for me is...

12.5 CDR from HELM

90-100% of gem effect in helm. Let's just say it's 8 CDR (this is from the new 2.1 leoric's crown). keep in mind though the effect is maxed at 100% so that means if you socket a diamond it's gonna be 12.5 with another 12.5 (multiplicative not additive of course).

8 CDR vigilante belt

10 CDR shield

8 CDR shoulders

8 CDR gloves

10 CDR from paragorn ( i think you need paragorn lv 200 for this )

akkan set is reduce all abilities cooldowns by 50% while akkarat's is active.



In total that is 48.10 % CDR

which translates as a downtime of 3.36 seconds on Akkarat's champion.

phalanx bowmen 2.79 seconds

shield glare 2.23 seconds

steed - endurance 5.3 seconds

laws of justice - 10.57 seconds

provoke 6.38 seconds

steel skin (iron skin) - 8.57 seconds

condemn (no downtime with the new season shield for condemn. just maybe a 0.3 seconds of delay on recast)




So i don't quite feel the need for CDR on the following items

- weapon
- both rings
- amulet


You could however argue that, rather than use paragorn points on the 10 cdr, you rather use those points on CHD instead, so that you can put the 10 CDR in weapon instead. That is a valid arguement, and i honestly hadn't done the math yet to know if that is the best way to go or not :} But my guess is that, once you are paragorn 600+ where you can afford to get all paragorn stat points, then 10 CDR in weapon is not ideal imho.



I had looked at the roland's set but honestly i am not convinced about a build around it. Condemn (HOLY) and phalanks (physical) are currently one of the best atm. Shotgun (HOLY) is still good, but it has taken a back seat behind those 2 newer ones in terms of potential.

So akkhans set to me is best in slot for condemn, and also can double up for shotgun build. The only stats to replace is the heaven's fury/condemn.

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Gogok seems like a good alternative to get 15% cd with 15% atk speed
But not reliable getting max even at 75% with foth and heaven fury on a solo target / grguardian
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Found a neat bop weapon. Used my gift on it and enchanted 10% dmg.

I know i said cdr is not needed in a final build for condemn, but considering i am low paragorn at the moment, i opted to get cdr so i could use condemn. So the choices for a beginner to mid level sader, you either cdr your weapon or your shield. also one of them needs vitality, so depending on what you get make sure you have the stats needed on one piece or the other.

As for why i have CDR in amulet, that is because i have don't have a better substitute. Also my RORG has CDR which is not needed, and is better of being CHD ideally for my case. So seeing as both these items have cdr, i then opted to make use of a bad situation so i just use ruby in my helm to farm EXP in the meanwhile. Seeing as my CDR is sufficient already so why not.

My chest, glove, belt, shoulders, helm, pants, boots and weapon are perfect. I know they are shy of 100%, but in my view 85-90% from perf is just fine doh.gif Even a 3.6k dps blade of the prophet is nothing to scoff at, though it would have been nice had it been 3.8 or higher. But from my testing 3.6k bop works fine in T6 and Grifting.

My bad pieces so far are the rings, amulet and shield. Shield lacks condemn which i need. Amulet lacks a socket. rorg lacks CHD, and the other ring ideally i would want a holy stone of jordan, although a unity which i do have is also viable in 2nd place, though i am using leorics for EXP farming for now.


legendary gems

legendary gems.... i recommend

1. boon of the hoarder= gold is amazing. very op right now so why not ? i am already 600million + gold now using this (swap this out for the other 3 gems below when doing grifting)

2. bane of the trapped = use with provoke for a boost in dps

3. mirinae teardrop of the starweaver = the proc rate may seem low, but look at the secondary which is a guaranteed proc every 5 seconds. It's holy dmg and does a lot of it to a single target. Condemn is strong in aoe, so this gem covers the single dps that you may lack.

4. bane of the powerful = this is very good. I would strongly recommend you use horse endurance to make good use of this gem, as you need to move from pack to pack while this buff is still active. not to mention the passive increase dmg to elites !!!





about the build

akarat champion prophet is a must .... it's way too good to ignore not getting. This combined with indestructible, and a short cooldown due to CDR stacks is amazing. This combined with condemn vacuum you can fast clear rifts/grifts :} Not to mention that without a slot for phase boots, it's then up to vacuum + horsey combo to help you grab creeps efficiently.

one thing i noticed was i was spending more time spaming condemn, than having the time to deal left click primary skill in my case smite - reaper. Even trying to renew the effect was taking away time from just spaming the higher dps condemn skill. So i'm thinking the ideal build would replace that for Laws of valor (either critical or unstoppable force). But the cache is, you would then need the passive long arm of the law. But not enough passive slots to fit ? This is where the new ubers amulet comes in. Get 1 of the 5 passives i suggest in this build, and your set nod.gif




screenshot of build
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This is my profile
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Moogle-6806/hero/51719731


http://www.diabloprogress.com/player/moogle-6806

my condemn build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/crus...WdaS!YaaYYY





in summary

Having my condemn gear ready, i switched to condemn quite easily.

Tested a few builds but ended up using the vacuum condemn because it made runs faster.

My S1 paragorn is not as high as others because i didn't exploit the grift exp trick which many did :/ i think some of them will get bans.

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I'm a newbie. Just play back d3 about 2-3 weeks
Here is my crus build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NightKi...8/hero/51212786
I normally play it as tanker (with darklight+0 CD Prophet AC) and friends or teammate will be heavy DPS.
Blind/provoke/law of justice for protect them and my self. Only 1 skill I can spam is fist of heaven or heaven fury.

Prophet AC and Indestructible is use for safe my ass laugh.gif

Currently searching for good ring and hellskull. Any good ring recommended?

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I'm a newbie. Just play back d3 about 2-3 weeks
Here is my crus build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/NightKi...8/hero/51212786
I normally play it as tanker (with darklight+0 CD Prophet AC) and friends or teammate will be heavy DPS.
Blind/provoke/law of justice for protect them and my self. Only 1 skill I can spam is fist of heaven or heaven fury.

Prophet AC and Indestructible is use for safe my ass laugh.gif

Currently searching for good ring and hellskull. Any good ring recommended?
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hm... stone of jordan and rorg are usually the main choices.

pre 2.1 bulkhathos ring was recommended for firestarter, but not sure if that has changed. As far as i know they had placed a cap on it so it doesn't scale out of control in greater rifts. Some people told me though that it's doing okay.
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found a really nice uber amulet :}
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hm... stone of jordan and rorg are usually the main choices.

pre 2.1 bulkhathos ring was recommended for firestarter, but not sure if that has changed. As far as i know they had placed a cap on it so it doesn't scale out of control in greater rifts. Some people told me though that it's doing okay.
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Ok.. Farm a stone of Jordan.
I have bulkhathos wedding band but I feel the life drain not so useful. I tried stand beside monster without hit them but their life does not drain.

**how about hell fire ring?

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Ok.. Farm a stone of Jordan.
I have bulkhathos wedding band but I feel the life drain not so useful. I tried stand beside monster without hit them but their life does not drain.

**how about hell fire ring?
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hellfire ring is some sort of chance on hiot cr8 a pool of lava which enemies stand in it take 200% dmg per tick over how many seconds .... there may be a cap on how long before the pool can reappear again. other than that is has more exp gain versus a leoric.

i think it's better than a leoric, but it's too hard to roll nice stats on it, and considering the effort to farm it, i rather use that time to upgrade the amulet which is infinitely better at having.


if you see my profile, my leoric is near perfect, so to me there is no urgent need for the uber ring.

besides i rather use rorg with a stone of jordan, so why waste time farming uber ring when it's gonna be replaced later anyway.
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guys is strength gem better then diamond?
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well...... look at it this way...


str= offense + defense (armor = reduces dmg from all sources)


diamond = all resistance = this patches up the defense against magical attacks only. When damage hits you, it first goes through regular armor, before then being reduced further by magical defense aka all res if it's a magical attack. So that is why all res shouldn't be totally ignored, and there should be reasonable a res to help soften the blows from magical attacks.

having said that, when i akarat champion - prophet, my armor sky rockets to dmg reduction of 90% + also remember that armor also negates all sources not merely just physical

for me i did t6 clears by only using strength gems ...... all my all res came from .....

- pants
- boots
- paragorn points (maxed a res)
- shield (ideally though ares would not normally be here ... waiting for a better shield)



my vit/life sources...

- shoulder = doesn't have all res because the 500 vit is rated as better than 100 all res i would think.
- belt (has life %) = rolled out all resistance for life% as other crusaders in the leaderboard had done so, so i tried it and it seems to work.
- helm = also 750 vs 100 all res, what more to say.
- bracer
- shield
-pants
- boots
- paragorn points (has life% after i had maxed all res first)



ranged dmg reduction
- amulet
- bracer
- chest




also for crusaders ranged damage reduction is very beneficial especially when trying to scale up difficulty. i strongly recommend stacking this in secondary stat whenever possible. I'd rate this higher than melee reduction.



for boots i used 12 movement speed, and the remainder 13 from paragorn. the rest i dumped into strength stat. some suggested that instead of str, grab armor or regen. But the way i see it, strength adds toward both offensive as well as defensive stats, so that is why i got strength from paragorn. i'm lv 367 and i get 330 str from paragorn versus having armor or life per sec rolled to replace MS in boots.




in regards to legendary gems i use

- bane of the powerful
- bane of the trapped
- mirinae, teardrop of the star weaver (i switch this out when not doing greater rifts)]


Only bane of the trapped covers the defensive aspect by slowing enemies, then allowing me to kite slightly while i recuperate as in wait for my healing potion or akarat champion cooldown.




amulet i am using uber's which has an extra passive provided which is to me best in slot. however there is eye of etlich which adds in secondary a range reduction stat which is very useful as well. also there are other options like the elemental immunity amulets. Don't forget traveler's pledge if you want more dps and vit. These are the best amulets to get for your crusader.


In total my stats

str = 11,434

armor = 18,339 ( is 45,848 aka 92.91% dmg reduction from all sources .....)


magical resistance range from 550 to 710. this means the lowest 550 all res is reducing magical damage by 61.13, and the highest 710 is reducing by 66.97%


ranged damage reduction = 17.83 %

life % bonus = 34.99

maximum life = 470,767


life per wrath spent = 1618 (i'm using wrathful via my uber amulet)

health globe healing bonus = 27,729

life per hit = 6,596

life per sec = 0



so in summary just from looking at my stats yes all res could definitely help BUT only for Greater Rifts level 33 and above.



Keep in mind i've done 4 person greater rifts successfully on tier 37 max.



Torment 6 regular rifts, and other T6 content (not greater rifts) are all very easy with my defensive stats......



At the end of the day though, even with this defensive aspect covered, it's all meaningly if your damage output sux. Because you want to clear creeps as fast as you can, rather just tanking indefinitely this is why best build at the moment imho is condemn which i am using. I'm nearly perfect in that aspect, just need a holy stone of jordan, a better crusader shield, and a higher dmg bop weapon.


Hope that answers your questions smile.gif

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Finally get my hell skull shield from Kadala!
But.. I change the stats( forget what ardy) to CDR 8%..
Now total CDR is 50% (include paragon 5%)
Should I stick to CDR to my shield or get CHC or CHD?
Confuse la.. Dunno which one better.

SOJ still in monster hands. Dunno which monster wear my SOJ or maybe Kadala keep it sad.gif
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Okay i've tested 2 builds....


holy condemn.... and... physical phalanks.

I was a bit surprised at how effective phalanks worked in grift. This is thanks to my Furnace with a 49 elite dmg to bonus, which my total elite dmg bonus at 91 XD !

to play the phalanks build, your spaming horse knockback as a range dps of sorts. Which enough dmg modifier stats you can do some serious damage, ontop of being tanky, and not getting close to enemies. The knockback sorts of ministuns as well. Your only enemy is walls.... so kulleaid potion is extremely useful for this build.


Holy condemn on the other hand requires getting close to enemies, and perform slight kiting where when you notice you are starting to take bad hits, you kite slightly along the edges of the group as they are chasing you. I use vacuum so it pulls them to me then explodes, after which 0.5 seconds later i'm already kiting away before they can land enough hits on me.

comparing the 2, condemn is much riskier because you are closer to the enemies. This could be dangerous on a grift. In grift there were some situations where i just could not get close to do anything. So in that sense phalanks could be superior in the longer run.



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The build is cooldown based, with high elite dmg stacking. Ideally you would also want to stack as much physical, which unfortunately i couldn't do on my amulet just yet xd. Phalanks in helm also might be needed. Shield also needs phalanks. phys stack would be in stone of jordan ring, bracer, amulet.

In regards to CDR with my current gear, i would recommend getting near to zero downtime for recasting akarat's champion for this build. Because with the lack of reaper wraps, you will be screwed during this downtime. For me i have almost 3-4 seconds delay on recast.

i feel the 10cdr on weapon would be more ideal than the max 8 on shield. OR i could try maximizing CDR on gloves, shield, and a 100% leoric crown, to see whether that would be enough to push me into the sweet spot for CDR without having to use CDR on weapon.

The pros and cons of CDR on weapon or shield is.... 1k+ vit 10 CDR on weapon versus 750vit 8cdr on shield. So depending on which you need more, i recommend you enchant accordingly.

For a Grift you want your hp to be above 400k MINIMUM. even then maybe a bit more approaching 500k if possible.



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roland shield bash build
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tbh i'm not too sure how well this performs, but it's the only one i've seen with a reasonably well thought out build for the new set.

for that build i would suggest the furnace seeing as he isn't using any 2hd crusader skills that would require bop, fotf, baleful etc...

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Immortal build...Beat Kripp's monk...LOLLLLLL....

Reduce total damage by 99.8%....for 5 seconds. LOL.

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Immortal build...Beat Kripp's monk...LOLLLLLL....

Reduce total damage by 99.8%....for 5 seconds. LOL.

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interesting .... but, what is your dps output ? because no point surviving if your going to take ages to kill creeps.

also 5 seconds ? do you mean 5 seconds downtime before can recast, or it only last 5 seconds ? trying the grifts, the higher you go, the more you are going to need that 0 second on recasting akkarat's champion. Mostly due to the fact, prophet reduces your dmg quite a lot, so the moment it goes down, your gonna get 1 shotted in a very high grift.
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You got trolled by a build not workable in grifts biggrin.gif
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You got trolled by a build not workable in grifts biggrin.gif
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anyhow....

found a 2 new amys today smile.gif so a total of 3 in my collection


haven't enchanted this one. thinking of replacing the str for 100CHD, though not sure yet. but even if i do use it, the only blackthorn i can use to unlock the set bonus would be the belt, because i am using the leoric's crown, so the only non set slot left is belt, but that is being used by vigilante for CDR. So this would mean that both my weapon and shield would have to both have CDR, and this just to unlock that extra 10elite dmg, and some extra vit.
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this is probably my best amulet, assuming that i can get an equally good compass rose ring. this can gain high CHD potential, compared to a stone of jordan that would have elite dmg instead.
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Ubers amulet good, but the passive is not my first choice. but looking at the secondary, i consider this to be a top affix to have.
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For condemn 2.1 i added a gear enchant pictorial guide.

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red box indicates important stats to get.

orange is secondaries i think are legit.

blue box is situational, meaning that if weapon has CDR, i don't think CDR on shield is that necessary, although this is dependent on whether you have a leoric's crown and whether the legendary bonus is higher than 90% Also the other requirement is that CDR in all the slots are maxed. If not, then you had best have CDR on both weapon and shield to compensate.

i also labelled vit in shield as necessary, because i felt it was the only way i could stack my HP to 400-500k in conjunction with maximizing Life % in paragorn points. Though you could alternatively shift Hp to weapon instead, leaving the other to have CDR. though you ought to remember the choices are 10CDR 1kvit, or 8CDR 750 vit when it comes to 2hand weapon vs shield max stats. so you do the math which would make more sense to your situation.

as you may have noticed, CDR is no longer recommended in rings, due to the fact they have been replaced by sockets instead. Also due to the fact that because of leoric's crown and the new revamped vigilante's belt, we are also able to drop CDR in the rings as such.


in boots some people said you could drop the 12MS and instead grab life per sec. Personally i prefer MS, but it's your choice which you feel is better. The way i saw it, i had more points to stack into STR so i kept 12 MS in boots.


now for recommended items....

helm = leoric's crown (bis = best in slot. due to the new legendary affix that would boost diamond CDR gem)

set piece = akkhan's set. everything but the helm is required. although you could use the helm, if your missing leoric's crown.

belt = vigilante belt

rings = ring of royal grandeur is a must ideally because you want to use leoric's crown but keep the max akkhan set bonus. After that you have the choice between either stone of jordan, unity, compass rose, bulkhatos wedding band, leoric's signet

shield = frydehr's wrath is definitely a must for condemn build due to no cooldowns on recast (well a very minor 0.2 seconds or so delay)

weapon = blade of prophecy makes condemn extra potent

bracer = reaper wraps. helps refill your wrath very easily.

amulet = hellfire, traveler's pledge, blackthorne's cross, resistance immunity amulet e.g. mara's kaleidescope etc...




The only thing i haven't yet figured out is the enchants on amulet and rings... for example.....


amulet - holy, strength, chd, chc, socket. I would normally want all of these, but i have to remove 1 of them to make enough room. So the question is, do i keep 750 strength or the 20% holy dmg stack ? But if i do keep holy, the max i would get is 20 amy, 20 bracer which is a total of 40 holy % which is not that high. But when you consider when using legendary gem's like mirinae's teardrop which has large holy damage, could be worth having doh.gif

rings = RORG no dillema here as the best you can get is STR/IAS/CHD/Socket; the issue lies in the other ring e.g like Unity and SOJ. Do you swap out 500 strength to make room for stats like holy/CHD/CHC/socket ?

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rank #260 for Crusader solo :}

I switched to a phalanks build heavy in elite dmg%, CHD, phalanks dmg%, physical as well as CDR cap for permanent akkarat's champion.

My HP was 420k
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I played a barb, regarding rorg, I swapped 500 strength for socket.
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I played a barb, regarding rorg, I swapped 500 strength for socket.
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attack speed, life per hit, and main stat is fixed on rorg. so only 1 is random ..... so the only real choice is to roll out the LPH for socket/CHD/CHC/or possibly even CDR depending on what you need.
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Am loving physical phalanx build... Goes decently with the 1h steed flail for really fast runs

Physical phalanx what gems to put?


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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Sep 22 2014, 07:56 AM)
attack speed, life per hit, and main stat is fixed on rorg. so only 1 is random ..... so the only real choice is to roll out the LPH for socket/CHD/CHC/or possibly even CDR depending on what you need.
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sorry mang, I mean to say SOJ not rorg hehehe

I have 2 SOJ, one rolled CHC > soc another rolled strength > socket
I still prefer rolling away mainstat sweat.gif
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sorry mang, I mean to say SOJ not rorg hehehe

I have 2 SOJ, one rolled CHC > soc  another rolled strength > socket
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Got RORG, rolled CHC more than 20 times now, still haven't got socket. Keep rolling? cry.gif
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Got RORG, rolled CHC more than 20 times now, still haven't got socket. Keep rolling?  cry.gif
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I'll re-roll as many time as needed to get a sock on ring. Can't avoid those legendary gem on both rings nowadays.
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true for rings. but i would be very reluctant to lose 100chd or 10chc on amulet. So if you really must forsake a socket, i think i would only do that for amulet in worse case scenario, but definitely not rings.

Not unless you had chc issues, in which case you are very badly geared rclxub.gif

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true for rings. but i would be very reluctant to lose 100chd or 10chc on amulet. So if you really must forsake a socket, i think i would only do that for amulet in worse case scenario, but definitely not wrongs.

Not unless you had chc issues, in which case you are very badly geared  rclxub.gif
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Found it last night rclxm9.gif I guess you just need to keep trying. It's there. Just luck seem to be not in your favor blush.gif Total damages = 45% CHD and 5.5% CHC. 30-40 rolls
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QUOTE(kozekz @ Sep 23 2014, 05:10 PM)
Found it last night  rclxm9.gif  I guess you just need to keep trying. It's there. Just luck seem to be not in your favor  blush.gif Total damages = 45% CHD and 5.5% CHC. 30-40 rolls
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found what hmm.gif ?


ps: follow the 10:1 ratio rule chd:chc or 9:1



i have a leoric's crown with str/vit/chc 6/99% leg bonus

problem is i want str/phalanks/chc 6/99% leg bonus.

So because i don't have the later, i'm using my backup which has str/vit/phalanks/98%


so then i can't use my SOJ because there is no CHC on it .... so i will be running low. So alternatively i could reroll my backup phys ring which already has a socket, to convert the str to chc (although ideally i would had gone for 50chd instead). But holding out on that because i am not having any luck finding a holy soj yet, so contemplating on converting this to holy instead.

and my compass rose i found is not great because it has socket with chc, but no chd .... which kind of defeats the point of using it if you can't stack another 50chd to take advantage of the set bonus.



outside jewelry, my other issue is my shields ..... ideally i would want str/cdr/skill dmg e.g. phalanks or condemn (for both fyrhders and the other shield)


i also can't quite use my witching hour because i will lose 8CDR which i have to get back by adding CDR into my RORG ...... not to mention i am -1 (glove), -1 (shield), 1% (leoric's bonus legend effect), -1 BOP sword I am like 0.5 CDR ish away from permanent akkarat's champion. Not too big a deal but as a perfectionist it would had been better xd..... because in grifting i noticed, i am aware of this 1 second delay, at which point under very heavy fire i am more prone to want to horse away to wait for that 1 second before i recast akkarat's champion again. Wish i didn't have to do that.

Anyway my gains for using my witching hour is more attack speed, but considering my WH rolled 38 CHD, whereas my RORG rolled 48 CHD, also that my vigilante belt has room for 15% life ...... it just seems it is better to use my vigilante belt and CHD RORG instead. Only if i were going to use phalanks bowmen would i try the witchin hour route.


so yeah i have this problem at the moment for my gear rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Sep 23 2014, 05:44 PM)
found what  hmm.gif  ?
ps: follow the 10:1 ratio rule chd:chc or 9:1
i have a leoric's crown with str/vit/chc 6/99% leg bonus

problem is i want str/phalanks/chc 6/99% leg bonus.

So because i don't have the later, i'm using my backup which has str/vit/phalanks/98%
so then i can't use my SOJ because there is no CHC on it .... so i will be running low. So alternatively i could reroll my backup phys ring which already has a socket, to convert the str to chc (although ideally i would had gone for 50chd instead). But holding out on that because i am not having any luck finding a holy soj yet, so contemplating on converting this to holy instead.

and my compass rose i found is not great because it has socket with chc, but no chd .... which kind of defeats the point of using it if you can't stack another 50chd to take advantage of the set bonus.
outside jewelry, my other issue is my shields ..... ideally i would want str/cdr/skill dmg e.g. phalanks or condemn (for both fyrhders and the other shield)
so yeah i have this problem at the moment for my gear  rclxub.gif
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So deep rclxub.gif Not sure my brain could process it.
Found socket lor. Both rings. Gold doesn't come easy for me. Need to do all bounty act 1, T5 or T6 to get gold around 1.5M or less.
Not sure is it a good thing or not, to loose 45%CHD + 5.5% CHC over Bane of Powerful + Bane of Trapped. But i think i can clear the mobs faster now. I guess that is the good thing.
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QUOTE(kozekz @ Sep 23 2014, 05:59 PM)
So deep  rclxub.gif  Not sure my brain could process it.
Found socket lor. Both rings. Gold doesn't come easy for me. Need to do all bounty act 1, T5 or T6 to get gold around 1.5M or less.
Not sure is it a good thing or not, to loose 45%CHD + 5.5% CHC over Bane of Powerful + Bane of Trapped. But i think i can clear the mobs faster now. I guess that is the good thing.
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oh sorry about that. i'm a theory crafter so i do my best to tweak my character stats for the perfect stats, though i have to move stats here and there to make do with what i already get. It gets confusing at that point laugh.gif also takes some testing to see if it performs as well or not xd.

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guys can give some suggestion for my current gear with phalanx build? what else need to be improve? thanks =)
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guys can give some suggestion for my current gear with phalanx build? what else need to be improve? thanks =)
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how much chc do you have firstly ? make sure u follow the 10:1 or 9:1 chd to chc ratio rule for starters.

obsidian ring is horrible. Replace that for a unity if your solo, or soj if your doing team grifts.


your furnace 3.2 is quite low, but the stats seem to be spot on. Just a shame that it rolled low on that white/elemental dmg.

the ideal shield would be str,cdr,phalanks, chc. Or at the very least 2/3 of the later stats mentioned. Definitely need a better shield. Even is not perfect either, but is better than yours.

need better pants, so you can replace that armor for all res.


for boots you should replace that ms for allres. Also for secondary stat it would be useful to have health bonus as well.

need better gloves, to replace attackspeed for CDR.


i know looking from your build as a whole, you've patched your low CDR by adding them to both rings. That is probably the best patch work to compensate for now.


regarding your build, it's same to mine except that i use holy cause instead of long arm of the law. I do agree that laotl is awesome to have but i'd rather get that extra passive via the hellfire amulet ideally.



in summary

step1: does the gear have the correct stats. e.g. your vigilante belt has all the correct stats. Don't be too concerned that the stats are not fully maxed out. The most critical stat for that is ensuring that CDR is maxed. Gear that are not ideal stats should be replaced pronto by farming for upgrades.

step2: what stats am i short on, and where should i balance the stats out from which pieces e.g. in your case u decided to CDR rings to compensate your less than perfect CDR from other pieces .....

step3: test build see if it works, in particular that you are permanent akkarat's champion meaning almost zero seconds downtime for recast, or close to it that doesn't negatively impact you due to the downtime waiting for it to refresh in between recasts. Also testing that your dps and survivability is sufficient for whatever grift level or other content you decide to do.

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Ess of Johan is my current fav ammy... If I try roll for a hellfire ammy, what is the extra passive that will be ideal?
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Sep 23 2014, 04:57 PM)
true for rings. but i would be very reluctant to lose 100chd or 10chc on amulet. So if you really must forsake a socket, i think i would only do that for amulet in worse case scenario, but definitely not wrongs.

Not unless you had chc issues, in which case you are very badly geared  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jun 1 2014, 02:43 PM)
LYN Crusader Hall of fame
1. yuhhaur - Founder of LYN Crusader thread
2. Moogle Stiltzkin - Top paragorn Crusader in Malaysia
3. ????? - Top DPS crusader in Malaysia ?
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If you don't mind kindly replace your name with mine for Top Paragon Crusader unless there's someone else from Malaysia that you're aware of having higher Paragon then 691 at this time of posting, also I've attached proof below for being highest ever Malaysian Solo Crusader Greater Rift ranking in US server.

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I think you should also add highest ever Greater Rift done by LYN Solo Crusader... which I believe it's GR39 by me. You can verify it from:

US Server Crusader Greater Rift Ranking

Thanks LYN Crusader thread moderator + theory crafter Moogle~! thumbup.gif

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Add me too 👍 but i m just at gr38 boss. I must be bery bad geared. Plz help sir. Cant make it to 39.

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Thanks you Moogle for giving advise =) i know where my main piece gear problem just need someone to double confirm it. btw my cc was at 43% right now. chd around 340% i notice need more chd to be more effective.
btw still haven found any unity and soj after so long of playing sleep.gif

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sure i can update to thread. but like i said, private message because i don't always read every single post in the thread ^-^;


is that 691 for seasonal or non seasonal ? what is your bnet account tag ?


Also keep in mind there is also a paragorn totaled after seasonal as well
http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/2f...ons_calculator/

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will be the stash transfer over to non season after season ends?
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whats your battlenet tag ?  hmm.gif
oh sorry about that. i'm a theory crafter so i do my best to tweak my character stats for the perfect stats, though i have to move stats here and there to make do with what i already get. It gets confusing at that point  laugh.gif also takes some testing to see if it performs as well or not xd.
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My crusader paragon is 712...non seasonal of course tongue.gif
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and I'm same clan with Moogle

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I just got this RORG.. trying to roll the stats but curious which should i roll too.. at the moment im trying for socket but stuck at 100 AR, beside that which should i go for again?
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I just got this RORG.. trying to roll the stats but curious which should i roll too.. at the moment im trying for socket but stuck at 100 AR, beside that which should i go for again?
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For crusader, i suggest u go for CDR.
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Socket of course!! Swift gem - level 25 bonus to cool down!
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Is in 2.1 . Socket is a must

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Could have cleared 39 but got unlucky on rime >_>: Didn't feel like trying again because i was ill and have the flu. Will postone trying again for a while xd...


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actually ric and kong, your both ranked for NON SEASONAL!! not seasonal >_>:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/rankings/era/1/rift-crusader


so i'm rank 39 SEASONAL, while you 2 r ranked for non seasonal.


The only one here that out ranks me in seasonal is andi, but he hadn't reported here yet so rolleyes.gif



even weirder is that me and kong got the same rank at some point laugh.gif but i timed 13m, he 14m, so ... flex.gif



I think the biggest reason other than silly mistakes i did doing the grifts, gear wise is that

1. my phalanks shield sucks. It doesn't have 15% phalanks ....
2. the new amulet i am using, the eye of etlich with the following stats

physical =17
crit hit dmg = 71
crit hit chance = 10
physical resistance = 141
reduce dmg from range attacks = 32.1
socket

The chd is missing 29 which is quite substantial if you think about it. I do have an alternative amulet with similar stats but higher CHD close to 90+, but it doesn't have the crucial reduce dmg from range attacks. Maybe i can survive without it, but from my testing, it helped greatly.


3. my gear secondary stats are not tweaked enough. What i mean by this is, that i don't have enough health orb bonus, rng/melee reduction, elemental reduction e.g. lightning/fire/cold so especially for the later, considering that lots of my gear is missing all resistance, i need to make it back via secondary if possible.

4. my gear main stats such as str/vit/elemental dmg/phalanks dmg/cdr is not yet 90% + Maybe my CDR is close to the target and seems to be okay for usage if not perfect. but the rest of the stats mentioned are far from perfect, and needs some higher values. From my testing however, my vit is good enough that i can drop vit from helm and shield but still be 400k + HP. Which i consider the very bare minimum of HP to have, especially for grifting. Though Chang who is top #1 sader told me personally he has much lower HP, but i'm not him so i need a bigger cushion because i'm lessed skilled laugh.gif



My favourite gems are

1. bane of the powerful
2. bane of the trapped
3. pain enchanter


i don't use gogok's because i am very close to perf akkarat's champion, so i don't need it. I only recommend it, if you're low on CDR. Looking at witchin hour belt as well, i cannot phantom hitting perma akkarat's without using gogok's seeing as you drop vigilante belt. Or instead your could add 8cdr into ring instead of gogok.




I've added some video recordings




this is my grift warmup prior to the real grift attempt laugh.gif
http://www.twitch.tv/mooglestiltzkin/b/572509919

*note: I had forgot to use my mercenary and unity ring. Got stopped at lv 37 also because..... if you forward to 29:00 i got screwed over by orlash cry.gif

this is a video for my lv 38 grift clearance using phalanks build
http://www.twitch.tv/mooglestiltzkin/b/572520097

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(A) the video up to 1hour 31 minutes shows my grift 38 clearance. the first 28minutes though was just me testing condemn build in solo, before i proceeded to the more trust worthy phalanks build.

(B) 2:03:00 onwards was mostly regular rifting farm.



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actually ric and kong, your both ranked for NON SEASONAL!! not seasonal >_>:
I didn't mention anything bout being in seasonal lol... anyway kindly update my record to GR40
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I didn't mention anything bout being in seasonal lol... anyway kindly update my record to GR40
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Anyway today found the ultimate amulet for phalanks grift. An eye of etlich with...


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one problem solved, now to find a proper phalanks shield cry.gif

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added a screenie of my gear for 38 grift clearance.

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added a screenie of my gear for 38 grift clearance.
Eh wanna ask, does leg gem contribute to Finery's gem count?

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finery just mean if the socket has a gem (any) it will incrs your str by x.....

the gem type even legendary or non doesn't make a difference.



today i was teaming with chang to farm some grift keys, so we managed to snag some 43 and 42 xd. so he forwarded his viewers to my channel notworthy.gif

managed to grift 39 clear with my dh follower buddy xd laugh.gif

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Is the Roland Set any good for Phalanx build?
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Is the Roland Set any good for Phalanx build?
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tbh i didn't try it yet, but every1 tells me it's horrible.

it's not as impressive as barbarian charge hmm.gif


anyway now i'm doing trial runs to upgrade all my keys to save space rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Sep 30 2014, 11:33 PM)
tbh i didn't try it yet, but every1 tells me it's horrible.

it's not as impressive as barbarian charge  hmm.gif
anyway now i'm doing trial runs to upgrade all my keys to save space  rclxub.gif
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Maybe because the set bonus are crap? Roland only boost up Sheild Bash and Sweep Attack.. so i dun think i will based on the set to use these skills..

i dun know.. i have 2 pcs of Roland now and thinking using all Akkhan..
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Maybe because the set bonus are crap? Roland only boost up Sheild Bash and Sweep Attack.. so i dun think i will based on the set to use these skills..

i dun know.. i have 2 pcs of Roland now and thinking using all Akkhan..
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i've collected all things sader related. I've theory crafted if roland, shield bash, sweep would work. I didn't test it irl yet, but i don't think it's viable simply because right now condemn and phalanks is strong.


if you go to my twitch channel, i've posted my builds that i use for

1. grifting = phal (i've cleared up to grift 38 on time attack. close to clearing 39 )
2. trial key farming LV43-40 = condemn tank/dps build
3. regular t6 speed rifting = condemn fast movement gold build (i had switched from a weaker XP build seeing as i hit 600, so i don't particularly care to farm xp from 600-800 because i didn't particularly feel it that necessary)


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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Oct 1 2014, 08:08 AM)
i've collected all things sader related. I've theory crafted if roland, shield bash, sweep would work. I didn't test it irl yet, but i don't think it's viable simply because right now condemn and phalanks is strong.
if you go to my twitch channel, i've posted my builds that i use for

1. grifting = phal (i've cleared up to grift 38 on time attack. close to clearing 39 )
2. trial key farming LV43-40 = condemn tank/dps build
3. regular t6 speed rifting = condemn fast movement gold build (i had switched from a weaker XP build seeing as i hit 600, so i don't particularly care to farm xp from 600-800 because i didn't particularly feel it that necessary)
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Yea, sometimes i view your game videos on twitch.. Good job on the video and keep up the work! thumbup.gif
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deadset posted a video about stampede sader



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deadset posted a video about stampede sader


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I saw many stampede sader recently in public rifts.. But most of them fail without proper build and eq..
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i think he explained it quite well how the build mechanics work. that was most important regarding the video.

also he even correctly mentioned instead of iron skin, you can go shield glare.


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I have successfully cleared grift 39 solo hurray !!!

Here is a video i made
http://www.twitch.tv/mooglestiltzkin/c/5221263



I was kinda surprised i managed such a big time cushion. So i didn't feel like i needed to rush on the boss. The boss wasn't hard in the sense i could die.

I switched from shield glare to steel skin, and it helped me survive so i die less so less time wasted.

my new ranking flex.gif
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i really feel that eye of etlich and steel skin helped me most this run. If i didn't have these, i would had died many times more in the run sweat.gif


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wow kaiser is gonna clear 43 grift !!!

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*confirmed. He has just cleared 43grift biggrin.gif


he beat chang for #1 spot, and he made another history by clearing 43 on top of that !!


looking at his gear, gearwise i feel i am superior to him most part, except he does beat me out in max stats in some areas as well as higher lv gems. but i think i did better combining mainstats/secondary stats for a better balance.


alot of his gear has patchworks around it, for example ....

his shield and furnace lack CDR, so his RORG has CDR, and has a gogok in it to compensate. This is what i mean by patchwork.

cause he loses 50chd from rorg, and bane of the powerful gem (for that elite dmg bonus)



rather than do what he did, i opted to not go down the gogok route, because i was already CDR capped more or less and didn't really need it. I do however need a higher dmg furnace, and a correct stats for the phalanks shield if i want to proceed further in grifts hmm.gif

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I was super lucky yesterday. Gambling for shields and Kadala gave me Hellskull, Unrelenting Phalanx & Jekangbord in a straight roll laugh.gif

Other than that i manage to also get a 4k+ dps (4033.4 to be exact) Blade of Prophecy with stats below:-

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What should i reroll?
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QUOTE(Prometric @ Oct 8 2014, 09:59 AM)
I was super lucky yesterday. Gambling for shields and Kadala gave me Hellskull, Unrelenting Phalanx & Jekangbord in a straight roll  laugh.gif

Other than that i manage to also get a 4k+ dps (4033.4 to be exact) Blade of Prophecy with stats below:-

+1423-1754 Cold dmg
+10% Damage
Increase attck speed 6%
Reduce cd 9%

What should i reroll?
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i would go for Strength as a replacement for attack speed. the reasons is attack speed does not benefits the damage of comdemn damage but strength will do. Good luck on that icon_rolleyes.gif

and i forgot to mention you need a rama gift to open a socket for this weapon after the reroll on attack speed.

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wow kaiser is gonna clear 43 grift !!!

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*confirmed. He has just cleared 43grift biggrin.gif
he beat chang for #1 spot, and he made another history  by clearing 43 on top of that !!
looking at his gear, gearwise i feel i am superior to him most part,  except he does beat me out in max stats in some areas as well as higher lv gems. but i think i did better combining mainstats/secondary stats for a better balance.
alot of his gear has patchworks around it, for example ....

his shield and furnace lack CDR, so his RORG has CDR, and has a gogok in it to compensate. This is what i mean by patchwork.

cause he loses 50chd from rorg, and bane of the powerful gem (for that elite dmg bonus)
rather than do what he did, i opted to not go down the gogok route, because i was already CDR capped more or less and didn't really need it. I do however need a higher dmg furnace, and a correct stats for the phalanks shield if i want to proceed further in grifts  hmm.gif
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i would go for Strength as a replacement for attack speed. the reasons is attack speed does not benefits the damage of comdemn damage but strength will do. Good luck on that  icon_rolleyes.gif

and i forgot to mention you need a rama gift to open a socket for this weapon after the reroll on attack speed.
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Btw, the Fryders Wrath shield can only be obtain on Season?
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Thanks for the reply, i have 4 rama gift on standby  brows.gif
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yes, comdemn shield is seasonal legendary shield. If you are on non-season I suggest you to try comdemn build on season. Gearing is not a problem now a days. biggrin.gif
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yes, comdemn shield is seasonal legendary shield. If you are on non-season I suggest you to try comdemn build on season. Gearing is not a problem now a days.  biggrin.gif
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Guess i will use hellskull for the meantime, and wait till Season 1 ends so i can gamble it off Kadala

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we mugel, wuts the current reliable build for GR?
i want to start my sader (already lvl70 since day 1 sader released)
totally forgot that sader even exist laugh.gif

Akkhan + Horsey build?
or the Condemn one?

kindly guide me!!!
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Pony build should be able to achieve higher Grift because of Stunlocking and range. But you need 1 of the rarest weapon in game. Furnace.
For gear, beside furnace. You need to get 6 pcs akkhan, No RORG, use Unity and SOJ. Without Leoric Crown, you will need Vigilante Belt and almost every slot on max CDR.
Or many cruz use Gogok gem to make up the CDR cap(56%)
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Oct 9 2014, 02:26 PM)
Pony build should be able to achieve higher Grift because of Stunlocking and range. But you need 1 of the rarest weapon in game. Furnace.
For gear, beside furnace. You need to get 6 pcs akkhan, No RORG, use Unity and SOJ. Without Leoric Crown, you will need Vigilante Belt and almost every slot on max CDR.
Or many cruz use Gogok gem to make up the CDR cap(56%)
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all physical rite? SoJ / Ammy / Strongarm?
i can get all the gear pretty fast except for furnace..
seriously regret that i brimmed in before 2.10 sad.gif
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all physical rite? SoJ / Ammy / Strongarm?
i can get all the gear pretty fast except for furnace..
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Ya. All Physical.
You playing Season or non Season?
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Ya. All Physical.
You playing Season or non Season?
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what other alternative that is good to replace Furnace?
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HeartSlaugther with max 30% physical
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HeartSlaugther with max 30% physical
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maybe some people use condemn, but honestly i got to watch it to believe that.

so my opinion, and from what i've seen other top saders do, is phalanks for highest grifting.

i'm not having any luck getting any good shields for both condemn and phalanks builds. On the verge of giving.

And trust me it's not on any lack of effort on my part. I even went as far as having 3 people helping me farm for shield, and none of us can get it X_X: el ol el.


And yes heart of slaughter is viable instead of furnace if you can't find the later. Personally i prefer furnace due to elite dmg stack up to 50% versus 30 phys on slaughter.

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i see..
about the phalank shield, what is the best roll for it?
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about the phalank shield, what is the best roll for it?
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cool.. so this build rely alot on CDR..
r u able to keep the perma akarat on?
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cool.. so this build rely alot on CDR..
r u able to keep the perma akarat on?
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Perma Akkan is easy now with Leoric Crown (Max 100% effect on Diamond Gem) or Vigilante Belt (Max 8% CDR).

But for Grift Pony setup, Many said had to use Unity + SOJ. No RORG. Meaning most of you slots need to be Max CDR.

For Grift Condemn setup, you might want to use String of Ear belt and Eye of Etlich. Why? Reduced damage on Melee (Belt) and Range (Ammy). MannerCookie (Top Hardcore Crusader) are testing this yesterday night. But I didn't manage to watch it (3am).
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got tired from d3, shield no drop, so went to fraser hill for a vacation. come back also still no mood play d3 xd.

maybe if they added some seasonal only reward from achievement points or from grifting, then i'd probably be more motivated.

But they made only some seasonal gear only, and only some of it useful.

I did manage to snag the condemn shield, but mine was just not the perf stats (not to confused with max. i'd be happy with just the right stats xd), though that is not easy for some of us laugh.gif

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I get bored with My Cruz because gamble cant get good loots. Very poor luck.

Start playing DH, Got M6 in 3 days. Today got Etrayu Bow and Bombadier's Rucksack. Steal a near perfect Witching hour from my cruz. More gears than my Cruz now. biggrin.gif. Last item left is Tasker & Theo

Total play time: 19 hours compare to my cruz 170+ hours... This DH really super lucky. Freaking good loot table.

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I also stuck with my heartslaughter, where is my furnace??? cry.gif gamble, gamble all nothing.
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Do you guys do T6 rift solo or pub/group? Considering you can solo T6 easily. To farm for shards and furnace.
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Rift + Greater rifts.

More chance for legendaries.

Btw any Roland player here?


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Rift + Greater rifts.

More chance for legendaries.

Btw any Roland player here?
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Rift + Greater rifts.

More chance for legendaries.

Btw any Roland player here?
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problem roland set is melee build . on higher rift even white mob will 1-2 shoot you. i bet 37-38 GR is highest with roland build .

But if u want fun and T6 viable build . roland build is good enough .
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Having fun with current Condemn setup for T6 speed run.. Sedut2 all gold.. LOL
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Eternal Reunion. I got this earlier from cache doing t6 bounties. Thought is crap but put at my stash.
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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Oct 24 2014, 05:08 PM)
Having fun with current Condemn setup for T6 speed run.. Sedut2 all gold.. LOL
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- locate goblin rift
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sedap sedut bang? hahaha

- locate goblin rift
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spot my problem now!

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spot my problem now!

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need more space.. LEL
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QUOTE(kwwk87 @ Nov 3 2014, 06:57 PM)
gg seasonal inventory when xfer to normal softcore lol
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i can see u have at least 5 shoulder and 4 chest armor... why need to keep so much? if play different style than just keep 2 enuff... that the way i've been doing.
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QUOTE(jeffseaw @ Nov 3 2014, 10:22 PM)
i can see u have at least 5 shoulder and 4 chest armor... why need to keep so much? if play different style than just keep 2 enuff...  that the way i've been doing.
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i do that too lel, multiple of the same item
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i can see u have at least 5 shoulder and 4 chest armor... why need to keep so much? if play different style than just keep 2 enuff...  that the way i've been doing.
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so i simpan lor hahahahha

QUOTE(olman @ Nov 4 2014, 06:31 AM)
Must b due to different rolls/stats.

i do that too lel, multiple of the same item
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my season storage shared between DH and Cru.. itu pasal no space whahahahahahahah
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QUOTE(waklu @ Nov 4 2014, 09:43 AM)
yeah i used to do that as well, but you never know what blizz might change in the future, buff this skill la, buff that skill la

so i simpan lor hahahahha
mostly different combo of rolls.. but seriously i need to focus playing one char.. shud be enough storage space

my season storage shared between DH and Cru.. itu pasal no space whahahahahahahah
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I use dummy chars to keep items also.

but need to login to that char to see the inventory, y cant blizz make a preview window to see all chars equipped and in inventory items sweat.gif

I miss AH cos it allows me to see wat each char has in its inventory haahgahahha laugh.gif

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I use dummy chars to keep items also.

but need to login to that char to see the inventory, y cant blizz make a preview window to see all chars equipped and in inventory items  sweat.gif

I miss AH cos it allows me to see wat each char has in its inventory haahgahahha laugh.gif
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i cant create mule storage, no char slot edi hhahahahaha
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i was same with u guys before for keeping alot different roll coz scare they change, but i rather clear space and if any change than only hunt again. Ya i keep those have special effect one, those same eh i just savage.
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baru dapat ini mace.. tengkiu abam fido brows.gif

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reroll base dmg or LoH>%dmg?
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baru dapat ini mace.. tengkiu abam fido  brows.gif

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Since u drop while playing with me.. Lak let me help u to reroll.. Miahahaha
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Let me do the honor kehkehkeh
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Uiiii x boleyyyyyy...nanti account bound
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Hampeh tol korang.. Tiggal aku sorang jer kat normal.
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Re: furnace
I screw up using the dps calculator, reroll the wrong stat wahahahahah

Wtb item reroll 2beez kehkeh
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deng sader tered so quite.. lksing mari spam sini hehe

got a physical soj yesterday, no lobang sadly, blizz wants me to play horsie back? haha

cc fe3doe
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Hey guys, new sader joining the forums. I'll try to apply for the clan as well. Currently able to run grift 32 in group play, never tried solo.

Also wondering if anyone here uses condemn? I have the gear but I don't see how it's better than holy shotgun.

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QUOTE(Reis @ Nov 10 2014, 02:57 PM)
Hey guys, new sader joining the forums. I'll try to apply for the clan as well. Currently able to run grift 32 in group play, never tried solo.

Also wondering if anyone here uses condemn? I have the gear but I don't see how it's better than holy shotgun.

Edit
I tried condemn again today, I wonder what didn't I see before, it's pretty insane smile.gif
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i can only speak from t6 condemn setup only. Its blazing fast in T6 using condemn, sub 5min per run is possible with standard setups and okish item.

my season condemn setup

Mine above. not the most optimal one, but still blazing t6 sub 5min per run. i am still gambling for CDR shield so i can replace the amulet with more optimal stats (holy, cc, cdmg, socket)
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hi I just got a condemn sword, will try out this build.
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roland with perma bowmen here.
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Hi im still short of 1 gear for Roland build. Can't wait to try it.
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I think with moogle quitting Ric would be the guy to post for Cru since his highly dedicated with Crusader class now
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Nov 17 2014, 11:33 PM)
I think with moogle quitting Ric would be the guy to post for Cru since his highly dedicated with Crusader class now
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My Condemn now crits for an average of 55m per blast, but I saw people critting for 100m! Is anyone doing around that damage? Would like to see your gear.

Btw, condemn is only viable in seasons I think, since the shield removes the CD.
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Brian is TS for Barb thread.

I'd suggest cheer83 to take over Cru thread.
I kasi zhong satu furnace.
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I bagi satu furnace.
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 18 2014, 11:29 AM)
Brian is TS for Barb thread.

I'd suggest cheer83 to take over Cru thread.
I kasi zhong satu furnace.
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Or fe3doe to take over Cru thread.
I bagi satu furnace.
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I'm not that active on the forum as before , thanks aleune for voting , anyway I vote faedoe to take over the crusader thread
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 18 2014, 11:29 AM)
Brian is TS for Barb thread.

I'd suggest cheer83 to take over Cru thread.
I kasi zhong satu furnace.
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Or fe3doe to take over Cru thread.
I bagi satu furnace.
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eh.. i cannot lor.. going to be far away for a while.. i even selling my rig.. lol

anyone want can nego a bit. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Nov 18 2014, 01:06 PM)
eh.. i cannot lor.. going to be far away for a while.. i even selling my rig.. lol

anyone want can nego a bit. tongue.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=278&t=3393579
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oi pegi mana? away for kursus kawen? lellelelelelel

free i want, lai FoD (free on delivery)

i can come ur place and collect, no prob hahahahaha brows.gif brows.gif
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oi pegi mana? away for kursus kawen? lellelelelelel

free i want, lai FoD (free on delivery)

i can come ur place and collect, no prob hahahahaha  brows.gif  brows.gif
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eh.. i cannot lor.. going to be far away for a while.. i even selling my rig.. lol

anyone want can nego a bit. tongue.gif

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haha bugima.. lol  doh.gif  doh.gif  sweat.gif
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bg la sebagai hadiah perpisahan kita

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ok Deckardcain take over cru thread la since now he is focusing on crusader. biggrin.gif
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ok Deckardcain take over cru thread la since now he is focusing on crusader. biggrin.gif
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eh.. i cannot lor.. going to be far away for a while.. i even selling my rig.. lol

anyone want can nego a bit. tongue.gif

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wah.. bukan pc baru lagi ke..
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wah.. bukan pc baru lagi ke..
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GR42 Solo Crusader cleared, ranked #17 in the server. Looking forward for patch 2.1.2 while pushing crusader's limit on both solo or group.

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GR42 Solo Crusader cleared, ranked #17 in the server. Looking forward for patch 2.1.2 while pushing crusader's limit on both solo or group.

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Stampede build?
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Thanks notworthy.gif and yeah cleared using stampede thumbup.gif
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Stuck at 35 with Condemn, with or without unity also same result. I don't want to play Stampede, don't like, but it's the best, so boring already. Wait S2 sad.gif

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Stuck at 35 with Condemn, with or without unity also same result. I don't want to play Stampede, don't like, but it's the best, so boring already. Wait S2 sad.gif
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To all Sifus here,

just curious to know whether my gear is in the right path or not:

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Because I am struck in GR Lv27, cant go higher already.

Basically is Arkhan set + Fate of the Fell + Heaven Fury + Eberli Charlo + Punish (all runes)

Hope can learn from Sifus here. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(shin2l @ Jan 12 2015, 11:55 PM)
To all Sifus here,

just curious to know whether my gear is in the right path or not:

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Because I am struck in GR Lv27, cant go higher already.

Basically is Arkhan set + Fate of the Fell + Heaven Fury + Eberli Charlo + Punish (all runes)

Hope can learn from Sifus here. notworthy.gif
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these build works back at 2.0. since new patch coming out, we shall see what will be best soon
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Hi guys.

Need some idea on how to improve my sader.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PinkieP...4/hero/46306689

Currently still hunting for Jordan, Unity, and strongarm bracers
Aim is to max out shotgun build.
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these build works back at 2.0. since new patch coming out, we shall see what will be best soon
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Just curious, what is your GR Lv when you are at Paragon Lv of 300+?
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Just curious, what is your GR Lv when you are at Paragon Lv of 300+?
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cant answer that lol coz b4 gr started i already 500+. and nothing to do with your paragon lvl mate, right gear right spec right skill will easily take u over 35gr solo
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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Jan 13 2015, 08:38 PM)
cant answer that lol coz b4 gr started i already 500+. and nothing to do with your paragon lvl mate, right gear right spec right skill will easily take u over 35gr solo
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Okay, just try Phanax (Warhorse) + Phanax shield (twice phanax) + Arhkhan sets + Heart slaugther (28% physical)

Good to see, but I need to improve on CDR and resource reduction

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New patch, new year & new resolution... made it into server's top 10 for the first time. New changes felt good smile.gif

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Gratz Ric rclxms.gif  btw why that Phalanx shield hard to get good rolls... always rolls crap vmad.gif
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Its by design lol
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QUOTE(Sabenarian @ Jan 19 2015, 07:03 PM)
Gratz Ric rclxms.gif  btw why that Phalanx shield hard to get good rolls... always rolls crap vmad.gif
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Hey bro Sabe~! Long time no see, nice to hear from you again. Crusader's shield is one of the hardest item to roll because it has the most possibilities with huge % table of each skills. In short, it's hard to get an ideal one because it has too many possible props and % on it. sweat.gif

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Its by design lol
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Yeah sort of the same way if you wanna put it that way bro... it's the slot design. In this case the Crusader shield has too many possible properties.

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Got no.1 Darklight (shxtty cast chance) according to D3 ladder smile.gif http://www.diablo3ladder.com/view-item/Dar...t-15390032.html I know nobody bother to play FoTH anymore, but for me still fun for fast T6 clear..

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Hi, can i have some comment on my crusader?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/IanMok-1485/hero/55688310

shotgun build. i got stuck on GR30 and i cant go any further. any comment?
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QUOTE(am1031 @ Jan 22 2015, 04:36 PM)
Hi, can i have some comment on my crusader?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/IanMok-1485/hero/55688310

shotgun build. i got stuck on GR30 and i cant go any further. any comment?
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U play shotgun or Phalanx actually? smile.gif but generally your gear is there but need better stats.. your first target is to reach perma Akarat ~56% effective CDR. You can use this calc: http://bannedofgamers.com/index.php?cdr/

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hi guys since so long not play diablo, what is the current trend build now.

currently on condemn since i have that shield and sword.

still at t2 (lol so long not play)
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logged in to collect my items before they get deleted 2 weeks or so from now.

couldn't make myself continue playing d3 though, just grabbed my stuff without really sorting it properly.

To me it's not really worth rejoining until the next expansion pack, mostly for continuing the story.

if you played as much as i did rushing to 700+ paragorn it gets pretty old. the only new things they add is mostly just an item refresh..... and maybe a skill balance here and there, but mostly it's the same thing really.

gonna go back to playing strife ^^;
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Mar 8 2015, 03:45 PM)
logged in to collect my items before they get deleted 2 weeks or so from now.

couldn't make myself continue playing d3 though, just grabbed my stuff without really sorting it properly.

To me it's not really worth rejoining until the next expansion pack, mostly for continuing the story.

if you played as much as i did rushing to 700+ paragorn it gets pretty old. the only new things they add is mostly just an item refresh..... and maybe a skill balance here and there, but mostly it's the same thing really.

gonna go back to playing strife ^^;
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We knew the game is repetitive since D1.
No? It is all about gear and XP farming.

Who deleted your items? Blizzard?
I don't know they have the rules in deleting gears.

You can do season 2.
All starts fresh from zero gold and gear.
90% of our clan members do Season 2 now.
We have a clan member ground until 655 paragon @ Season 2 since the patch launched in Jan 2015.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Mar 8 2015, 09:03 PM)
Who deleted your items? Blizzard?
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Unclaimed season 1 item will be gone if u not take it in time.
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Unclaimed season 1 item will be gone if u not take it in time.
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Yeah, that's the Season 1 loots.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Mar 8 2015, 09:03 PM)
We knew the game is repetitive since D1.
No? It is all about gear and XP farming.

Who deleted your items? Blizzard?
I don't know they have the rules in deleting gears.

You can do season 2.
All starts fresh from zero gold and gear.
90% of our clan members do Season 2 now.
We have a clan member ground until 655 paragon @ Season 2 since the patch launched in Jan 2015.
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actually my initial plan was to do hardcore for 2nd season to collect achievements cause i'm close to 100%

but i'd had lost interest. maybe if such achievements came with rare rewards for 100% then maybe. But D3 doesn't work that way unfortunately doh.gif

Also my buddy told me season 1 gear is also available in season 2. So at this rate i can always farm these gear at a later date, as it doesn't seem that seasonal loot will be unique to that season only. So there is no urgency for me to start farming now.

Anyway i'm sure there has been item refresh, and ability rebalancing to make the game mechanics even funner to play (i can't imagine it getting worse lelz).

That said, i'm hoping for a continuation of the story in the next expansion before i rejoin D3 smile.gif



Right now my focus is on Starcraft 2 legacy of the void which is due for beta near end of this month. And probably a release sometime this year (not sure when).

Until then i've been alternating between Strife and Heroes of the Storm laugh.gif


Things that would definitely renew my interest in D3 other than the story continuation would be a pvp system based on something similar to say Guildwars 2 battlegrounds which involves sieging fortifications etc.

Elder scrolls Online has become a free to play game with a 1 time purchase of the game, and it has a huge battleground which i got to try during the closed beta. Could be tempted to play that smile.gif


PS: anyone have any tips for a easy way to manage inventory in Diablo 3 ? From what i understand there have been stat upgrades in the newer patches, so what exactly is safe to delete ?

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Hi all,

ive just started playing again. please comment smile.gif

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Hi all,

ive just started playing again. please comment smile.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/isildur...8/hero/50979078
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Need some advice here. Actually how do we play crusader without melee attack? I mean just spam skills for the damage? Im still new in D3, so im seeking for advice on playing a character without those Punish, Slash, Smite and so on..
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Need some advice here. Actually how do we play crusader without melee attack? I mean just spam skills for the damage? Im still new in D3, so im seeking for advice on playing a character without those Punish, Slash, Smite and so on..
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melee attack? Resource generator u mean?. You will need 6 Akkhan bonus to allow you perma Akarat. with 4 piece akkhan bonus, skill cost -50%. also wrath regen is higher during Akarat form. If still not enough, use Law of Valor (Unstoppable force rune) and if still not good enough use Long Arm the Law passive. Some skill like Provoke, Shield Glare can give wrath too..
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melee attack? Resource generator u mean?. You will need 6 Akkhan bonus to allow you perma Akarat. with 4 piece akkhan bonus, skill cost -50%. also wrath regen is higher during Akarat form. If still not enough, use Law of Valor (Unstoppable force rune) and if still not good enough use Long Arm the Law passive. Some skill like Provoke, Shield Glare can give wrath too..
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Thanks for your advice. So that means if we want to play spam skills we need akkhan set right? But i dont see the craftman got akkhan set to craft? Where is the recipe?
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QUOTE(SnapdragonS4 @ Mar 19 2015, 06:38 AM)
Thanks for your advice. So that means if we want to play spam skills we need akkhan set right? But i dont see the craftman got akkhan set to craft? Where is the recipe?
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No recipe. Loot or kadala
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QUOTE(SnapdragonS4 @ Mar 19 2015, 01:48 AM)
Need some advice here. Actually how do we play crusader without melee attack? I mean just spam skills for the damage? Im still new in D3, so im seeking for advice on playing a character without those Punish, Slash, Smite and so on..
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without melee try blessed shield or phalanx stampede build, my current build is blessed shield build but the damage quite suck due to some low legendaries gear my profile > http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/huoshen...7/hero/44703347
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without melee try blessed shield or phalanx stampede build, my current build is blessed shield build but the damage quite suck due to some low legendaries gear my profile > http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/huoshen...7/hero/44703347
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Your skills. Do you actually have enough wrath to non stop spamming the skills?
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QUOTE(SnapdragonS4 @ Mar 19 2015, 06:45 PM)
Your skills. Do you actually have enough wrath to non stop spamming the skills?
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Crusaders usually go for high cooldown reduction so that can maintain permanent or near-permanent Akarat's Champion. And also Laws of Valor with Unstoppable Force rune. Akkhan's set is not crafted, but drops in Rifts, Greater Rifts, anywhere/randomly in the world in Adventure Mode (say for example when you doing bounties), and also can obtain via gambling at the NPC Kadala. You may pay attention to the set bonuses of Akkhan's as well to have an idea how people spamming Wrath spenders without having any Wrath generator skills on their skill bar.

1. Akkhan's set bonues - can view them on my crusader here http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mjolnir...3/hero/19711692
2. high cooldown reduction to maintain perma or near-perma Akkarat's Champion
3. using other skills that give you wrath (mentioned by others above already)

Now, go and read what they're for then you may understand a bit more.

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Your skills. Do you actually have enough wrath to non stop spamming the skills?
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Crusaders usually go for high cooldown reduction so that can maintain permanent or near-permanent Akarat's Champion. And also Laws of Valor with Unstoppable Force rune. Akkhan's set is not crafted, but drops in Rifts, Greater Rifts, anywhere/randomly in the world in Adventure Mode (say for example when you doing bounties), and also can obtain via gambling at the NPC Kadala. You may pay attention to the set bonuses of Akkhan's as well to have an idea how people spamming Wrath spenders without having any Wrath generator skills on their skill bar.

1. Akkhan's set bonues - can view them on my crusader here http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Mjolnir...3/hero/19711692
2. high cooldown reduction to maintain perma or near-perma Akkarat's Champion
3. using other skills that give you wrath (mentioned by others above already)

Now, go and read what they're for then you may understand a bit more.
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Thanks for your advice. Currently got akkhan boots on rift. Going to hunt for the second item. I get 1 legendary belt which cast bombardment every 8 sec. Kinda nice for easy kills.
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QUOTE(SnapdragonS4 @ Mar 19 2015, 11:39 PM)
Thanks for your advice. Currently got akkhan boots on rift. Going to hunt for the second item. I get 1 legendary belt which cast bombardment every 8 sec. Kinda nice for easy kills.
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When gearing up you should keep watch for a Vigilante's belt. it's the only belt that has cooldown reduction on it. We also try to have cdr on weapon. Good luck.
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the best build for crusader now

1. Unrelenting Phalanx
best weapon ancient furnace, ancient Heart Slaughter, ancient Baleful Remnant.... if cant get 1 of this weapon, u can use any 2hand weapon with high damage...

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2. Frydehr’s Wrath
u must have this weapon Blade of Prophecy

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gear,
akkan champion set + rorg + leoric crown
u mush have 55.6% cooldown reduce

this belt better than Vigilante Belt... try get 6 sec.... by teh way, if u cooldown not 55.6%, u need vigilante belt...
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if u still cant find this set, follow this video for beginner, and fast way solo farming gear..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXF4wMYFdW0
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QUOTE(BlueDream2 @ Mar 20 2015, 12:22 AM)
the best build for crusader now

1. Unrelenting Phalanx
best weapon ancient furnace, ancient Heart Slaughter, ancient Baleful Remnant.... if cant get 1 of this weapon, u can use any 2hand weapon with high damage...

user posted image

2. Frydehr’s Wrath
u must have this weapon Blade of Prophecy

user posted image

gear,
akkan champion set + rorg + leoric crown
u mush have 55.6% cooldown reduce

this belt better than Vigilante Belt... try get 6 sec.... by teh way, if u cooldown not 55.6%, u need vigilante belt...
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if u still cant find this set, follow this video for beginner, and fast way solo farming gear..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXF4wMYFdW0
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Much appreciate that. Thank you
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so the next end game gear should be sweeping the floor set ?
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so the next end game gear should be sweeping the floor set ?
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sweeping the floor?
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Thanks to the new patch.. my sweep attack build is awesome now!!! flex.gif

Gear:
1) 3 sets of roland set
2) 3 sets of akkhan set
3) 2h weapon = golden flense
4) shield = the final witness
5) & of course d set reduction ring (Ring of Royal Grandeur)

My build:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/crus...agRS!YcZbYY

Playing style:
1) sweep attack when there is large group of enemy (pull effect ruin & wrath regen by weapon)
2) shield bash for 1 on 1, or on elite ([1320%+500%] high dmg range from 250~300m, 400~450m when akarat mode)
3) shield glare to blind & wrath regen (thx to roland set & passive skill "towering shield", cooldown very fast)
4) iron skin for def

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Roland with Furnace/Piro Marella using Crumble Shield Bash
Managable wrath resource thanks to law and shield glare which cooldown is lowered per shieldbash/sweep attack cast

Alot of feedback mentioning crumble is a better choice due to the smaller aoe to utilized the unique bracer's effect ( which I dont have it yet ) and having a big aoe potential provided you landed the kill

Survivability relies on
1.spamming shield bash to lower the cooldown for Iron Skin faster which is no issue thanks to +35% atk speed per cast that stacks 5 times
2.cheat death passive
3.gem that generates shield based on 200% of life per second on rank 25 after 4 sec of no combat
4.gem that reduce non physical damage

I've tested with Focus/Restraint and it reached 300 mil if you have both buffs up and running which is a great combo with Punish ( not to mention with the belt that gives all Punish passive ) / Shield Bash
Now I need the bloody bracers and I'm all set

Few problems
1. high grifts are a problem though in trying to survive, now gonna lean more towards life per second gears to help generate that shield with bigger hp
2. single target high dps, multiple tanky mobs might take some time, if small trash mobs then crumble will proc alot clearing it fast
3. pretty close range if you ask me and have to face target head on, making some trouble if facing electric/arcane/poison types

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