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post May 31 2014, 03:46 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 30 2014, 07:42 PM)
While our gov complaint why there are increase in military budget in neighbouring countries as we cant really cope up with that anymore.

Persaingan sihat adalah...bila kita tengok org berjaya kita akan usaha lagi utk challenge dia.

Persaingan tak sihat adalah...bila kita tengok org berjaya kita cuba jatuhkan dia, komplen dia....

Nampaknye kita mmg memilih persaingan tak sihat dlm military budget ni.
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everywhere in SEA got new militray purchase, we are one of the only that have not done any significant purchase apart from the Gowind purchase

but from the rumored gowind specs, kinda a little disappointment that it cant even afford a proper ciws for that kind of price
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So many list to buy but no money spared by govement cry.gif

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post Jun 2 2014, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 2 2014, 05:14 PM)
Plus S300 for long range....
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s400 for all range interception tongue.gif

short, medium and long.. just need diff missiles packs wub.gif

but then again s400 just a fancy name for an improved s300 or so it seem.
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post Jun 2 2014, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 2 2014, 05:24 PM)
O thought S300 is the latest....ade lagi latest rupanye
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bro.. ruskies tengah developing s500 system dah

but s400 is said to be an improved s300 system, just s400 sound better for export market rolleyes.gif

kesian.. murica still stuck with their medium range patriots sweat.gif sweat.gif

goes to say, in term of air defense system, rukies offer the best while offense murica offer the best
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post Jun 2 2014, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jun 2 2014, 05:41 PM)
dont worry, we no money to buy S300 (around 400 million usd per-set) not event S400, some more S400 not export yet.
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s400 ready for export.. china is getting 4 set from russia rolleyes.gif Russia trust china enough that they wont copy the system

i this we need the most also two or four s400 battalion. Of course one would be at the capital and putrajaya whistling.gif Not sure though we need to protect those songlap kings
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one at sabah another at edge of kelantan.. any china planes come in through the south china sea.. shoot them immediately


QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jun 2 2014, 06:34 PM)
different thinkings,the US and NATO depend on aerial superiority and superior detection for air defence.russia/USSR know that their backs will be against the wall in most cases so they usually have the best anti air and anti ship capabilities
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Russia anti air defense is something to fear about. Murica still with their pathetic patriot, even some of the murica citizen start criticizing why cant they develop a longer range sam instead of keep updating the patriot system?

It not like they dont have the capabilities to do so
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post Jun 2 2014, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jun 2 2014, 08:34 PM)
China special case, we not China.... which also have alot money...
S400 no much help if china really want to attack as.. 
also long range defense missile  successful rate to hit jet  fighter after 80km is not more than 50%.
and our military level not at so "high level" yet to operate S400 from financial or technically, good starting from medium range first.
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they did offer us the s300 system long ago but i not sure when

If u want to compare "high level", since vietnam can operate a s300, i dont see why we cant considering our army and technology is still much more advance compared to them rolleyes.gif


Just that our top.. think that military spending is not important, instead of finding funds for the all the 3 forces, they are busy finding funds for the next BRIM vmad.gif

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post Jun 2 2014, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 2 2014, 10:41 PM)
To be exact....to INCREASE to amount for next BR1M.....
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kesian.. scorpene dua biji entah sampai bila ada extra brother and sister laugh.gif

QUOTE(lulz @ Jun 2 2014, 10:49 PM)
Im not sure about this, they have far more experience in the SAM business than us and vietnam is probably the 2nd in SEA in terms of military power after singapore.
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most of their system are outdated.. even they admit it laugh.gif

But their country no problem with military purchases in fact the ppl encouraged it to counter china

In malaysia, ruling party find ways to enter their pocket, opposition bising why buy this why busy that. Except us in this community that encourages more arms purchase.

Imagine there a military coup in Malaysia, Finally we will more than enough funds to buy what we want whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif Inb4 my word masuk ISA

QUOTE(yinchet @ Jun 2 2014, 10:54 PM)
SAM is not the main priority for us now.
I think we should get
1. FAC ~200 tonnage and 800 tonnage.
2. CB 90s
3. Upgrading kedah class
4. MPA
5. Lease 18 fighter jets wait for more advance jet fighter to be available. Trade in all remaining migs and add in some cash for 1small sqn Mkm
6. More utility heli
7. AEW
9. LPD
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a long list but the answer is always " no fund".. sad lah our military
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post Jun 5 2014, 07:39 PM

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How nice we can get more mkm for our mig replacements
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post Jun 6 2014, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jun 6 2014, 04:54 PM)
Yes, cuz Vera-E is passive locator that relies on ELINT (Electronic intelligence)
Actually not a "radar" on actual terms, it's like locating a handphone based on signal tower triangulation

So if that F-22 switches on it's AN/APG-77 radar, IFF, jammers or anything electronics, Vera-E will pick that up
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Ada news sudah on.. and started data gathering.

Budak kata too good of information to let got, next time sg f35 can be tracked better with this information

Plus, since normal radar difficult to track f22, it also used as location radar. Budak US pun tahu cuma both side buat muka 'u know, I know, we both keep quiet"

Buat they dont want too tell me whre it current location
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post Jun 9 2014, 02:02 PM

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Saw the army transporting the pt-91m tank today at north south highway near serembam

Any idea whre they heading? They are heading nortybound. Will post photo once balik
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post Jun 10 2014, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Jun 10 2014, 11:36 PM)
Indon want to "ganyang" malaysia and become superpower in SEA. I dunno why they hate us so much. Butthurt? i hope /k not become kaskus.
Even when usaf f 22 raptor train with our mkm they called us selling ourself to uncle sam. Inb4 called us english slut.  doh.gif
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indon memang dont like us, some of the hardcore still believe we should be part of them

u should day they sell themselves more to US, they have more US equipments compared to us laugh.gif

the one major asset of US in our inventory is the F18
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post Jun 11 2014, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jun 11 2014, 09:02 PM)
A rather interesting piece of model in RMAF Deputy Chief of Staff office

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LY-80 sam model  brows.gif  brows.gif
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i see a ground master400 is that correct under it?
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post Jun 12 2014, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jun 12 2014, 05:42 AM)
Yes, under army
This makes interesting question, does air force intends to take over the medium range system (MEADS)?

So..
Air force - Medium Extended Air Defense System (MEADS)
Army - Very Short Range Air Defense Systems (VSHORAD)
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i think it just a give or a little souvenir given by the Chinese while evaluating the system

i hear while during evaluation phase, both the army and air force will together evaluate and determine which is more suitable operator

in my honest opinion, army (GAPU) should get it due to their familiarization with mobile weapon based vehicles. Save time and money. And most importantly, they are already trained in air defense laugh.gif
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post Jun 12 2014, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 12 2014, 08:24 PM)
Indonesian Air Force to deploy fighter planes to disputed area

Deputy chief of staff of the TNI-AU, Air Vice Marshall Sudipo Handoyo has said on 9/6/2014 that work has begun to upgrade an old Dutch airfield at Paloh,west Kalimantan and to permanently establish an Indonesian presence there.

Land around the airfield will also be expanded into an military outpost and expects around 500 personnel from the Army and Navy will be stationed there to respond to any "Malaysian provocations". Recently there has been confrontations between the Indonesian and Malaysian navies at the waters off Tanjung Datu,at the border of the Malaysian state of Sarawak and the Indonesian province of Kalimantan.

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TNI-AU Deputy chief-of-staff Air Vice Marshal Sudipo Handoyo

News Link: TNI-AU to deploy fighter planes to disputed area
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like tat little want do outpost.. macam indo very kecil hati only
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post Jun 13 2014, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(kinabalu @ Jun 12 2014, 11:23 PM)
I tot msia only send one small boat patrol there while indon mobilized quite a number of asset to tanjung datu.

either indon over-reaction or msia under play the incident?  hmm.gif
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show of power.. of course if malaysia send their warship, it will be another round of problem

i would the small boat is like poking a finger to test the reaction.. Now we know, then we will take bigger action laugh.gif
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post Jun 13 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jun 13 2014, 10:06 AM)
U have to understand this, Indon tanah sikit, kita tanah banyak..so for sure la negara tanah sikit yg akan menggelupur lebih.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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apa u cakap?

indon tanah banyak.. kita yang tanah sikit compared to them sweat.gif


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post Jun 13 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Jun 13 2014, 10:21 AM)
..then suppose kita la hantar kapal besar tapi kenapa ini kes indon plak hantar kapal besar?huhuh..
Ayo..you punya sarcasm radar off ka pagi ni...hehe
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pagi lagi lah bai.... motor belum warm up laugh.gif
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post Jun 20 2014, 01:10 AM

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lol at the chair sprayed with 'HAK KERAJAAN"

Wonder if our military equipments are sprayed the same,
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post Jun 24 2014, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Jun 23 2014, 10:34 PM)
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http://www.stripes.com/house-oks-defense-b...f-a-10-1.289824

The plane is so tough it can dodge Congress.
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post Jun 26 2014, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 26 2014, 12:27 AM)
Koperal from what? ours or koperal from 'sulu royal army'?
with SPH/truck-mounted arty rapidly developing in these recent years, would there be no more towed artillery like M777 and FH-70 in the future?
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Depends on situation. . Unless u need sudden or urgent firepower or you attacking a fix structure or target or defensive nature, towed is more suitable and cheaper

Sph is mainly to be used to support of front line.. offensive because of their mobility to be able to keep up with the force advancements
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post Jul 4 2014, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jul 4 2014, 10:21 PM)
Underground radar?? To detect what?? Using what medium to propagate the signal?? Never heard b4 but maybe...
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most likely sheltered radar system

like land based icbm, protected during attacked operation once over

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