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Hobbies Japanese Vinyl and Figures V11, Plastic poison for Anime lovers

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post Aug 16 2015, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Aug 16 2015, 06:38 PM)
For all figures that may exceed rm500 i will stop ordering from amiami. Expensive stuff i will order from NipponYasan -  they do underdeclare for you if requested. If item still stuck in kastam, ask them to produce a fake invoice for you, they will.
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I don't know whether Kastam changed policy or anything but despite the general rule to keep things under RM 500, I had a shipment worth almost 25,000 JPY shipped by AmiAmi on Sept 2014 and had no issues.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 16 2015, 07:41 PM)
I don't know whether Kastam changed policy or anything but despite the general rule to keep things under RM 500, I had a shipment worth almost 25,000 JPY shipped by AmiAmi on Sept 2014 and had no issues.
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Last time abit random, so sometimes declared stuff over RM 500 can pass. Around the time GST started (which was April this year), their enforcement become more strict, and rarely items declared above RM 500 without shipping will passed tax free.
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post Aug 16 2015, 10:28 PM

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I went over to this thread (https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2129499) to see if anyone already asked questions that I have, but most went unanswered. It also seems most people don't have answers for their problems, which after reading through most of the posts there, are way a lot more handful than what we worry about (stuff worth RM1500 and more).

This thread is supposed to be dedicated to topics about figures but I think a lot of users are more concerned about customs than actually have concerns about figures they're excited about. In my mind, I expected more people to post their collections, share their pre-orders, and their own reviews about figures they own; not "will my figure pass through customs?" for the umpteenth time.

Of course, I'm not opposed to having these kind of questions. If anything, I have lots of questions I too want answer to (see below). I just think perhaps there should be a more dedicated thread or AMA for it.

I'll leave what kind of discussion is okay to the OP.

QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Aug 16 2015, 06:38 PM)
For all figures that may exceed rm500 i will stop ordering from amiami. Expensive stuff i will order from NipponYasan -  they do underdeclare for you if requested. If item still stuck in kastam, ask them to produce a fake invoice for you, they will.
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This so much. I asked Amiami if they can reduce the value of the parcel on the invoice, but they declined stating that "it's a crime to do so". For alternatives, one can try Solaris Japan or a deputy.

Which brings me to two questions:

1. What if the value of the parcel was *just barely* above RM500? Like between RM500-RM510? Would it still be flagged?
2. I know one can undervalue parcel to bypass taxing. But are there any real consequences to doing this? I just wanna see from Amiami's POV as to why this can be a crime.
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QUOTE(dis0rd3h @ Aug 16 2015, 10:28 PM)
1. What if the value of the parcel was *just barely* above RM500? Like between RM500-RM510? Would it still be flagged?
2. I know one can undervalue parcel to bypass taxing. But are there any real consequences to doing this? I just wanna see from Amiami's POV as to why this can be a crime.
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1) Most probably will still be flagged, government not enough money yo.
2) Insurance purposes. If you undervalue your shipment and something happens to it (touch wood), then you can only claim based on the declared value.
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QUOTE(dis0rd3h @ Aug 16 2015, 10:28 PM)
Which brings me to two questions:

1. What if the value of the parcel was *just barely* above RM500? Like between RM500-RM510? Would it still be flagged?
2. I know one can undervalue parcel to bypass taxing. But are there any real consequences to doing this? I just wanna see from Amiami's POV as to why this can be a crime.
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1) It's not any parcel above RM500 will be stopped 100%. It's like parcels with values <RM500 usually will just pass through customs 90% without the officer even bother to check. While parcels >RM500 will get some attention, officers would screen through the details on the documents, then decide whether or not it's worth their time to open and check. It's about 50/50 chance to get taxed.

2) It's illegal by Japan's law to report false value. Not sure with NipponYasan, maybe their company is not registered under Japan, hence that law doesn't affect them?
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Aug 16 2015, 10:36 PM)
1) It's not any parcel above RM500 will be stopped 100%. It's like parcels with values <RM500 usually will just pass through customs 90% without the officer even bother to check. While parcels >RM500 will get some attention, officers would screen through the details on the documents, then decide whether or not it's worth their time to open and check. It's about 50/50 chance to get taxed.

2) It's illegal by Japan's law to report false value. Not sure with NipponYasan, maybe their company is not registered under Japan, hence that law doesn't affect them?
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1) If barely exceed RM 500 yes 50/50, but if it goes over RM 600 for sure kena
2) most probably they done it senyap2 (even Mandarake under declare tongue.gif )
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lol , Guess I will stick to keep it below 500 then .

I have only ordered from amiami so far and never really tried other place yet .. oh did buy once or a few times from HLJ , Hobby Search and Mandrake before .. have heard of nippon-yassan but nvr really checked it before..

How is the pricing in Nippon Yassan ? So nippon-yassan can input lower price in the invoice if requested ? Is there a limit on how much lower I wonder .

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QUOTE(dis0rd3h @ Aug 16 2015, 10:28 PM)
I went over to this thread (https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2129499) to see if anyone already asked questions that I have, but most went unanswered. It also seems most people don't have answers for their problems, which after reading through most of the posts there, are way a lot more handful than what we worry about (stuff worth RM1500 and more).

This thread is supposed to be dedicated to topics about figures but I think a lot of users are more concerned about customs than actually have concerns about figures they're excited about. In my mind, I expected more people to post their collections, share their pre-orders, and their own reviews about figures they own; not "will my figure pass through customs?" for the umpteenth time.

Of course, I'm not opposed to having these kind of questions. If anything, I have lots of questions I too want answer to (see below). I just think perhaps there should be a more dedicated thread or AMA for it.

I'll leave what kind of discussion is okay to the OP.
This so much. I asked Amiami if they can reduce the value of the parcel on the invoice, but they declined stating that "it's a crime to do so". For alternatives, one can try Solaris Japan or a deputy.

Which brings me to two questions:

1. What if the value of the parcel was *just barely* above RM500? Like between RM500-RM510? Would it still be flagged?
2. I know one can undervalue parcel to bypass taxing. But are there any real consequences to doing this? I just wanna see from Amiami's POV as to why this can be a crime.
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Aug 16 2015, 10:36 PM)
1) It's not any parcel above RM500 will be stopped 100%. It's like parcels with values <RM500 usually will just pass through customs 90% without the officer even bother to check. While parcels >RM500 will get some attention, officers would screen through the details on the documents, then decide whether or not it's worth their time to open and check. It's about 50/50 chance to get taxed.

2) It's illegal by Japan's law to report false value. Not sure with NipponYasan, maybe their company is not registered under Japan, hence that law doesn't affect them?
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It's not that NipponYasan is not affected by the law; it's just a (secret) service they offer to do for you if you ask, just to get customers. Their prices and shipping costs aren't as cheap as Amiami, but they have this service (not mentioned in their FAQ of course, as it's illegal) worth considering if you are buying something guaranteed to cross the RM500 mark. My friend imported a RM800 figure they declare $30 USD, kastam still tahan (because of size of box) and NY produced this $30 invoice for him after being asked. Amiami does not do it because they are one of the big fours of anime merchandise online stores in Japan, they have to follow the rules. The risk of underdeclaring, is that if anything happens to the parcel - damage or missing, you will only be compensated the amount that has been declared. One more site i know that helps u to bypass customs, is SolarisJapan. They even promised "you will never have to pay tax". Of course, don't go and ship 10 scale figures in 1 single shipment. lol

If you cross RM500 it's a 50/50 chance; i guess if you cross by 10 or 20 bucks they'll let things pass. I used my university address and added student ID number to my name in my shipping info for this reason - to psycho them to let things pass as it is for a student. It worked so well than even 18SX figures also passed easily so far. But i can only do so for one more year until a graduate. I can still use my dad's tuition center address and indicate it's for a student in my info anyway. My dad runs a college-like tuition center.

This post has been edited by EXkurogane: Aug 17 2015, 12:27 PM
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post Aug 17 2015, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Aug 17 2015, 12:22 PM)
It's not that NipponYasan is not affected by the law; it's just a (secret) service they offer to do for you if you ask, just to get customers. Their prices and shipping costs aren't as cheap as Amiami, but they have this service (not mentioned in their FAQ of course, as it's illegal) worth considering if you are buying something guaranteed to cross the RM500 mark.  My friend imported a RM800 figure they declare $30 USD, kastam still tahan (because of size of box) and NY produced this $30 invoice for him after being asked. Amiami does not do it because they are one of the big fours of anime merchandise online stores in Japan, they have to follow the rules. The risk of underdeclaring, is that if anything happens to the parcel - damage or missing, you will only be compensated the amount that has been declared. One more site i know that helps u to bypass customs, is SolarisJapan. They even promised "you will never have to pay tax". Of course, don't go and ship 10 scale figures in 1 single shipment. lol

If you cross RM500 it's a 50/50 chance; i guess if you cross by 10 or 20 bucks they'll let things pass. I used my university address and added student ID number to my name in my shipping info for  this reason - to psycho them to let things pass as it is for a student. It worked so well than even 18SX figures also passed easily so far. But i can only do so for one more year until a graduate. I can still use my dad's tuition center address and indicate it's for a student in my info anyway. My dad runs a college-like tuition center.
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Which is why the whole "editing the value of the parcel", while I understand its purposes and benefits, still puzzles me.

1. If I can undervalue my parcel, then what's stopping other importers from doing the same thing? Wouldn't customs be overwhelmed by lots and lots of parcels valued at RM500 and below then?
2. I assume if I can undervalue, then I also can "overvalue" my parcel. I could easily just report my parcel missing, and pocket the extra change from the insurance.

This post has been edited by dis0rd3h: Aug 17 2015, 12:57 PM
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post Aug 17 2015, 01:21 PM

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Just remembered, I had an 18000 JPY item came in end of July.

No kastam issue. Item was from CDJapan.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 17 2015, 01:21 PM)
Just remembered, I had an 18000 JPY item came in end of July.

No kastam issue. Item was from CDJapan.
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What item was that?
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QUOTE(dis0rd3h @ Aug 17 2015, 12:56 PM)
Which is why the whole "editing the value of the parcel", while I understand its purposes and benefits, still puzzles me.

1. If I can undervalue my parcel, then what's stopping other importers from doing the same thing? Wouldn't customs be overwhelmed by lots and lots of parcels valued at RM500 and below then?
2. I assume if I can undervalue, then I also can "overvalue" my parcel. I could easily just report my parcel missing, and pocket the extra change from the insurance.
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1. Under-valueing of item to lessen custom tax is actually present not only in your country but most of the countries in the world. Majority of the people really want to avoid paying more taxes and if they can get savings, they will do it as well.

2. Overvalue = that is a nice thought. Though valuation and insurance cost go hand in hand so if your overvalue your item and a shop accepts it, then they might charge you more to pay for more insurance. Second, reporting of missing parcels requires investigation from both Post office involved in the shipment and usually, refund is made after that investigation.
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I do know one thing for certain, any parcels declared containing books, no matter what value, 100% will be opened by Customs
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I have no f*cking idea wtf is poslaju doing. It's 17th today at 3pm and i have no news. That parcel is under RM500 for sure, totalling 14600yen incl shipping.

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QUOTE(chyll2 @ Aug 17 2015, 02:41 PM)
1. Under-valueing of item to lessen custom tax is actually present not only in your country but most of the countries in the world. Majority of the people really want to avoid paying more taxes and if they can get savings, they will do it as well.

2. Overvalue = that is a nice thought. Though valuation and insurance cost go hand in hand so if your overvalue your item and a shop accepts it, then they might charge you more to pay for more insurance. Second, reporting of missing parcels requires investigation from both Post office involved in the shipment and usually, refund is made after that investigation.
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1. Makes you wonder why go through with having import taxes at all.
2. It's not so much a practical way to make money as much as legal loophole. Just a thought of mine haha.

QUOTE(General_Nic @ Aug 17 2015, 02:48 PM)
I do know one thing for certain, any parcels declared containing books, no matter what value, 100% will be opened by Customs
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I do know books and DVDs are more susceptible to get flagged, but 100% probability? Now that worries me, since I ordered the Triage X light novels, which aren't exactly "obscene" but the cover illustration made it seem so. Totally did not order any ero books. Yep.

Now, I have another question:

1. What if I declare my books as "lifestyle goods" or "art" or some other stuff? Summore to increase my chances, I did as EXKurogane suggested and send it to a respectable institution, like a university in guise that it's for educational purposes. Would you wager my chances of the parcel not getting flagged increase?

QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Aug 17 2015, 02:58 PM)
I have no f*cking idea wtf is poslaju doing. It's 17th today at 3pm and i have no news. That parcel is under RM500 for sure, totalling 14600yen incl shipping.

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Dude I know what you're ordering. Skytube's Tougetsu Matsuri, yes? Although that last update doesn't look good, what are the chances that the parcel was sent to customs for a second inspection?
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QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Aug 17 2015, 02:58 PM)
I have no f*cking idea wtf is poslaju doing. It's 17th today at 3pm and i have no news. That parcel is under RM500 for sure, totalling 14600yen incl shipping.

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I pray the best of luck for you. Hopefully 2moro will be clearance from inspection. nod.gif
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Dude I know what you're ordering. Skytube's Tougetsu Matsuri, yes? Although that last update doesn't look good, what are the chances that the parcel was sent to customs for a second inspection?
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My friend already received his Matsuri already
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QUOTE(EXkurogane @ Aug 17 2015, 06:23 PM)
My friend already received his Matsuri already
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I made the mistake of ordering the version that comes with the acrylic plate, which shot my overall cost up to 16,000 yen. Mailed Amiami to change my order or cancel it so I can make a new one, no dice. Which was why I asked earlier if stuff that's barely over RM500 would still get flagged.

Actually I can't remember if she is totally exposed "down there"? I guess importing figures with exposed torso is kinda pushing it and you can probably syke customs by bullshitting how it's "art" (like, Venus de Milo art), but sculpted genitalia is a total no-no I think.

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