WhiteFlash& High Performance Diamonds offer Free Shipping Worldwide via Fedex.

Brian Gavin Diamonds will charge shipping, it will depends on the price of the diamond your purchase. It may be somewhere between USD 55 - USD 75 I guess. But their diamonds are really top notch.

I am affiliated to both WhiteFlash and Brian Gavin. So if you need help purchasing from them, please let me know and I am happy to assist. If you want more value for money, I would say WhiteFlash. This is because their price is slightly cheaper than its competitors and they offer free shipping. Besides, their customer service is very very friendly and helpful. Their series is called "A-Cut-Above", but if you want really top-notch diamonds, then Brian Gavin has a series known as Black by Brian Gavin. Brian Gavin do have a Signature series which I will consider it the same range as WhiteFlash's ACA. In other words, Black by Brian Gavin is the new top series.

As for High Performance Diamonds, I am not affiliated to them, but I know that their imaging technology is a bit old school, but then their diamonds (Crafted by Infinity series) are quite highly recommended by Todd Gray from www.niceice.com. He is a diamond buyer with 30+ years experience. Also, you will see the name Crafted by Infinity (CBI) and the diamond cutter Paul Slegers' name appear quite a bit in PriceScope (a popular diamond forum).

Another highly reputable jeweler that is close to home will be Jann Paul in Singapore. You can always get to them via FB. They are friendly peeps. They do have plenty of educational videos on YouTube so do check them out, and you will understand what your money is spent for if you ever buy a Super Ideal diamond.

Importing in diamonds from overseas is subject to GST, unfortunately, so prepare to fork out the 6%.

And for expensive - I don't think it is expensive. You can of course get normal GIA diamonds here at a cheaper price, probably by a few hundred ringgit to thousand plus (including ring setting and diamond, aka final price), but the proportions are not that great. Proportion is one of the important factors in determining a diamond's performance. In fact, they may be cases whereby the diamond is sold at a price similar to what you can get online and ship to Malaysia. Mind you, I am talking about normal GIA diamonds. If you ever want to purchase a Hearts & Arrows (aka Super Ideal) diamond here in a brick-and-mortar store, then the price should be higher than what you can get online. Also some jewelers (mainstream or non-mainstream) may claim that they are selling Hearts & Arrows as well, but take a look at the H&A image they provide you, it may not be true. Anyway, Hearts & Arrows are very subjective to each individual interpretation, but there are general guidelines that you can find online. I believe some people may purposely say it is perfect H&A and try to sell it to you at a higher premium, but as a matter of fact, the stone does not meet H&A standard, probably not even barely. So that's why I like to purchase online because I can see all the images I need to see - Hearts & Arrows image, Idealscope image, ASET image, Actual Diamond Image, 360 degrees video. These are the things that set these jewelers are other normal jewelers apart.

As of ring settings, certain brick-and-mortar stores will do it, such as Diamond and Platinum, Degem, Poh Kong, Tomei, etc. You can just walk-in and ask. Price varies.

If you prefer custom design, look for non-mainstream stores such as iDo Jewellery, Eumayco, Memory Jewellery (just type in Facebook or Google them). Price varies as well.

Personally will prefer non-mainstream stores because it is easier to talk to via Facebook.

Hope this helps and good luck!

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Apr 27 2017, 01:51 PM

My guess is one pair of bands probably will be around RM 8000 - RM 9000+. Just my guess.

This post should be pinned! Never know so much about the Heart and Arrow. I been to several jewelry store already. I only know the basic 4C and their ideal cut.

I take a good look first! I'm in the midst finding a diamond ring for my gf. But the jewelry store locally they don't really offer very nice ring. Great info! Thank you so much

Good luck! Give yourself ample time and set a budget and you will do fine.

Meanwhile I'm searching, i know about GIA, but how about AGS? What's the different actually?

nvr see wedding band at tiff & co b4 during the previous time to cuci mata....

All right, you made me Google abit:

I will take it from Paul Slegers (who oversees the cutting process for Crafted by Infinity):
https://www.pricescope.com/community/thread...2/#post-2878903

Overall, he said that AGS is slightly loose in terms of Colour compared to GIA, but slightly stricter in terms of Clarity.

And also take a look at this post:
https://www.pricescope.com/community/thread...2/#post-2878672

https://www.pricescope.com/community/thread...3/#post-3090363

Overall, AGS is stricter in terms of cut grading.

My own experience:
I have an AGS F colour for my wife. I look at it from the side, not face-up, I can see some slight tint of yellow. I look at another E colour from Lazare (they use their own grading system), the differences can be seen, but the gap is not that wide. To me, it is acceptable. However, if I were to grade my own stone, I would say it may be a high-G colour or a low F-colour. My guess is that if I were to send the stone to GIA, the result will be "G". But that is just my guess for my stone, if the AGS F colour is in the higher spectrum of the F colour range, then GIA should return F colour. Maybe I am just being picky. Well...

FYI, when I bought my stone, I have almost 0 experience. Now that I checked back the diamond image, it is actually not that "white", compared to other WhiteFlash ACA F colour. Of course, I would prefer slightly whiter colour, but then, this diamond now belongs to my wife now, and the value it carries a significant value that can't be graded by any lab now. I am actually okay if it is graded a G colour by GIA because to me it is always an F. Ok, I am getting carried away... So, let's see the good side of things, my diamond has a very very red Idealscope image, more red than some ACA F colour, and this makes my stone to be very "white" under sunshine. It is returning so much light that someone close to me said it is too white. . So, that's the importance of idealscope when determining performance, and that's the performance of a super ideal diamond.

Another thing worth mentioning is that the information on AGS cert is more than GIA cert. For example, you will get the Clarity plot on the AGS cert to determine the location of the inclusions, while for GIA, you will only get that if you purchase a 1ct diamond. So that's where AGS wins, to me.

Overall, I won't be concerned whether an AGS F is actually a GIA F now, because to me, these 2 labs are comparable, besides, now I will look at the diamond photos and make comparison between different stones that share similar colour and make a call whether the colour should be considered a F colour. If one F is whiter than the other F colour, that means that the first diamond is on the higher spectrum of F colour and GIA should come out the same result. But for simplicity's sake, I will just assume they are the same colour grade.

Also, Colour grading is done by human, not machine. They compare to a master stone to see which grade this stone should fall into. So, there can be variations, but should not be too far apart. One colour grade to me is acceptable.

You will do fine with either GIA or AGS.

Here is some read-up: https://www.whiteflash.com/ags-vs-gia/

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Apr 27 2017, 04:32 PM

LOL both founded by the same group of people! Amazing knowledge. Today really learn a lot. Appreciate for your help!

You can always drop by KLCC/Pavilion to pay them a visit.

No problem, happy hunting!

i went to pavilion previously... tak nampak pun....

anyhow, not goin to step in there anymore...

diamond ring and wedding band settled oledi... only left the proposal part....

How do you settle the wedding band? You bought your gf along?

wedding band same size as the diamond ring ma.... wedding band n diamond r custom design ma... both settled by the same jeweler...

wow, you just do everything sekaligus! Haha, I tot maybe your wifey want to choose the bands.

Searching around found 2 quite nice with the spec.

http://www.agslab.com/pdf_sync_reports/104...74062-BGBLK.PDF

http://dealer.craftedbyinfinity.com/diamon...01148764ags.pdf

The price is very closely between these 2. Just different store. Which is better?

sekaligus settled everything ma... no need to make so many trips to jeweler and cheaper ma if do all together....

Haha, that CBI is fantastic. Unfortunately, it is ON HOLD by someone else. It has been ON HOLD for more than a month, not sure why still the same status.

As for the BGD, it is absolutely stunning. Although eye-clean, but you will be able to see the reflection of its inclusion if you take a look at the Hearts & Arrows image. However, I hope this is not something that will turn you down. Its idealscope is one of the best I have seen. It will return a lot of light. And crown angle at 34.9? It will return a lot of fire. Overall this is a stunner.

This E VS1 is also one of the diamonds I may consider: http://black.briangavindiamonds.com/diamon...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link). Performance wise F VS2 may win slightly, but if you want something with higher colour and clarity, E VS1 is the one. Which one will I buy myself? My Asian mindset tells me E VS1. In terms of value for money, E VS1 seems to be value for money because for extra RM 600++ (USD 138) can go up 1 level for both colour and clarity respectively, which is great. In terms of performance, I don't think there will be noticeable difference, so my another mindset tells me why not save the RM 600++. Besides, the idealscope and hearts & arrows of the F VS2 seem to be better very very slightly. So that's where the value of F VS2 lies. If you want better performance, F VS2, if you want better "paper specs" E VS1.

For me, I will probably buy E VS1 because performance wise, both are roughly similar and guaranteed to perform, hence I will go for better "paper specs". Besides, wifey will probably be slightly happier as well. But each person has their own preference, if you prefer the F VS2, just go for it. I would say you can't go wrong with any of them.

Alright, back to your question: if you ask me 0.42 CBI or 0.41 Black by BGD? Despite the CBI is a very very beautiful diamond, I am betting on the 34.9 crown angle of the Black by BGD to bring a lot of fire! Hence, I will for for the 0.41ct Black by BGD.

Please remember that Black by BGD does not cover shipping cost, so you need to factor in this fact as well.

Hope this helps.

Hey guys, I was offered Rm8k for this 6242469630 with halo ring setting. Do you think it's a good buy?
Thanks

Hello, this diamond has an HCA score of 1.3 and its Enchanted Cut Score is 97.2. Overall, the cut of this diamond is acceptable. It should return relatively more fire because of its 35.5 degrees, but at the expense of some brilliance. Although I prefer a more balanced diamond, but I guess more fire is an acceptable trade-off. 62.3% depth is actually slightly deep, and I guess that's where this diamond loses score on Enchanted Cut Score, but then this is probably due to the medium - slightly thick girdle, and not due to steep crown or steep pavilion, so I would say it is fine. You will be getting a 18k white gold ring, I presume? And Halo Setting will come with side diamonds/melee diamonds, so for the ring setting, it is relatively more expensive than a normal simple 4-prongs/6-prongs solitaire.

Now, for RM 8k, I would say the price is fair, if based on proportions alone. I would not prefer SI1, unless you can see that it is eye-clean.

Alright, time to do my affiliate work =>

If you don't mind dropping the colour to F, you can probably get this:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/r...id=myengringexp (affiliate link). Even with halo setting customized elsewhere, it will still be cheaper than 8K. And this diamond has images to back it up (which is important). Besides, it is even larger at 0.427ct.

There are no D colour diamonds, but if you want to get an E VS1 Black by Brian Gavin, it will costs you a couple of hundred ringgit - thousand ringgit more. You sacrifice on one grade of colour but you gain on 2 grades of clarity. And Black by Brian Gavin's performance is really top of the line, it is said to be the pinnacle of Brian Gavin's work.

Here are some prices for your to refer. WhiteFlash offers free worldwide shipping, while Brian Gavin does not (so you need to pay for shipping).




Remember to add 6% GST to the loose diamond price. There will be some misc. charges but I will exclude it because it is minimal (< RM 50).

Remember, this is just for reference, and you will need more patient and footwork to get things done in comparison to buying a complete diamond ring. There is also some risk, but relatively low because they use Fedex for shipping.

Alright! That's all for now, hope everything goes well for you!

Additional RM600+ is like Still it considerable also.

So if the CBI available, which mean it a very good deal right? Maybe I should drop them a PM see if it available or not