I did ask shannon, but she didnt reveal the spec of diamond she has ... wants me to go to her shop to view ... i just wanna know the GIA report of the diamond she has. anyway she seems doing alot more for gemstone

haha ya ... been procrastinating =x Whiteflash looks great . although on the higher side after FX conversion it seems

but saw this looks good from whiteflash

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/0...ut-sku-a4555958




oh , i thought you meant you dont do those fancy setting . Temporary setting they offer is standard one i think . basic .
you have shop or online shop ?

This post has been edited by jasperng: Mar 25 2023, 01:57 PM

Should have gone to her shop, you won't regret it, no obligation anyway... she is a GIA gemologist , she has ready stock and selected the best based on appearance for both gemstone and diamond. good if you can go and view it if you have time

This post has been edited by entaro: Mar 25 2023, 03:39 PM

Just online bro. I only do if customer wants. I only have 0.3x on hand hence I didn't offer you any.

can anyone recommends brands of engagement ring without a center diamond but with a pave setting diamond instead? Thank you!

This post has been edited by Confession: Apr 2 2023, 11:41 PM

Do you have a picture of what you are looking for?

something like this? https://us.darryring.com/wedding-rings/fore...collection-5792 , unlike the typical proposal ring with a center diamond

Ohhh, this is actually a wedding band. Some thing which you will use when you exchange rings with your partner.

You can practically get this in most jewelers. Brick and mortar jewelers like DeGem, Diamond and Platinum in shopping should have.

You can also look at ZCOVA's website: https://zcova.com/wedding-ring/women, choose Eternity Ring.

There are also jewelers like Boa Jewels, iDo Jewelry, Lavin New York, Tailored Jewel, The Gem Tribe... etc, that you can consider too.

thank you very much for the recommendation. but she hinted that she prefer this type though as engagement ring, doesn't matter right? haha

As long as she happy, price almost the same though , sometime more expensive . All the kambingkoh sifu recommendation got pave setting diamond ring for sale.

You are not proposing to me. Lol. So yea, it doesn't matter. Get what she wants.

Howdy all,

I've been doing my own research during my spare time and found out that the more I look, the more confused I get which is why I need all the help I can get from the sifus here.

I've narrowed it down (definitely open to other suggestions) to getting loose diamonds from places such as whiteflash or zcova based on other posts. I'm also new to evaluating diamonds but to pay attention on the cut, crown angle, pavilion angle etc.

Few diamonds I saved but appreciate some feedback on what to look out for / other recommendations:

1) https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=5416217213
2) AGS-104118223001
3) AGS-104118848001
4) AGS-104120418023
5) AGS-104119869027




Further to that, are there any trustworthy & friendly local shops that are currently providing services for ring setting around Klang Valley? May need to estimate sizes or look at a temporary setting first.

Apologies for the long post and have a lovely day folks.

This post has been edited by KHinTheGame: Apr 17 2023, 02:10 PM

Hmm, it really depends on what is your budget. Options in Whiteflash will have some of the best cut quality, but they comes at a premium. You can also check out Brian Gavin Diamonds. Their top of the line collection is Brian Gavin Black, something like this - https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/collecti...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link).

One interesting to take note is that AGS has merged with GIA and they no longer appear as a single entity. The stone I listed above is actually graded by GIA.

However, Brian Gavin does not offer free shipping. You will have to pay more or less USD 50+ for shipping to Malaysia.

It is always best to start with a budget that you would like to spend on the ring. For your budget, at this moment, my preferred choice will be the Brian Gavin Black 0.45ct diamond for its size.

If I want to go on a more budget option, I will probably pick this: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/0...id=myengringexp (affiliate link). WhiteFlash does provide free shipping to Malaysia.

Again, do note that diamonds from WhiteFlash or Brian Gavin Diamonds do come with a premium. For similar 4Cs, typical GIA diamonds that have the same 4Cs can be cheaper.

Since you mentioned ZCOVA, you can actually engaged them and let them know what is your budget and 4Cs preference, they are able to assist you further. Then, you can start to evaluate your options and see what suits you best.

As for ring setting, a lot of jewelers are able to do it, but their price may be higher if you only do the setting alone.

I do provide ring setting as well for Klang Valley under my own registered enterprise. My plain ring setting starts from RM 1600.

Thanks a lot for the super insightful information on your website. I will definitely give Brian Gavin Diamonds some further thought too. Your preferred choice is right within my current budget plan for loose diamonds. Though that $150 shipping before applying promo code did gave me a shock haha..

Yea i heard news about the GIA acquiring AGS assets and now provide ASET imagings as well and still reading up on how to evaluate base on that.

Can i pick your brain on your thoughts on warmer colour diamonds ("I" grade) with a VS1 clarity (cost aside)? Is that something generally avoided or is it overhyped by "fake" lighting in your run-of-the-mill jewelry stores?



Gonna take things one step at a time first but its great news that i can engage a ring setter like yourself coincidentally on the forum.

This post has been edited by KHinTheGame: Apr 18 2023, 06:34 PM

Personally I am fine with warmer colors. However, if you pay enough attention, you can probably notice the warmer tint. In fact, if you go full OCD mode, you can even notice the warmer tint in F color, especially when you have a higher color like D or E to compare with. Of course, to be fair, the I color will be more obvious.

The thing about color is that it is usually noticeable at the body of the diamond, not from the top-view. Therefore, unless you always look at your diamond in a 360 degree mode, chances are from normal view (which is the top), one probably can't notice any immediate difference.

I am not sure what you meant by "overhyped" though...

Thanks so much. I've also engaged both BGD and whiteflash and they were kind enough to provide me with lots of additional info and request.

Just curious, has anyone made loose diamond purchases from overseas recently? Is it still tax-free? My understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, its only taxable if I get it set on a ring as it classifies as jewellery/accessories etc right? (read somewhere online)

I've looked into HS code 7102 (diamonds not mounted or set) seems to be in the clear. Code 71.13 (articles of jewellery of precious metal is also tax free ). However it seems like synthetic stones (71.04) is taxable.

This post has been edited by KHinTheGame: Apr 22 2023, 08:01 PM

I bought a J from zcova, under 90% lighting condition, you won't even noticed it. then again my eyes are not trained. VS1 or VS2 is good enough. I and J are bang for buck. for your size I think there will not be noticeable difference. sweetspot is H/G VS1/VS2 if you have a budget. Else go I with bigger carat, size does matter lol

ACA! you can't go wrong with it, whiteflash has generous upgrade policy so if you have time I definitely recommend whiteflash the best. ACA stone will look bigger than its size.
Based on your selection, I would go with the 0.41 carat, best proportion and I believe price is balanced vs color and clarity.

For ring setting, you can try TGT and I know zcova does setting too.

This post has been edited by entaro: Apr 23 2023, 01:55 PM

It is still tax-free. Just received some lab-grown diamonds recently

@kambingkoh, want to seek your views on purchasing GIA diamonds from online-only / physical channels and also pick your brain on how you evaluate the options.

1) I am shopping at places like ZCOVA, D&P and Lavin, Lavin is the only one which procures them already but their price points are quite high. An as alternative, is purchasing from ZCOVA or D&P safe? I worry if the diamond arrives and there's major flaws to it, and the D&P salesperson says there is no buyer's remorse to the process. Just wondering if the transportation is secure & online pictures give accurate view of the diamond quality.

2) I have my eyes on several options here:

0.90CT/E/VS2/FAINT/VSNBL067
0.90CT/E/VS2/FAINT/VSMXR024

These two are Triple Ex, similar Cut + Color + Clarity, and have identical prices - both don't have significant impurities so I'm quite keen to know how to pick btwn the two.

Aside from that, I saw some higher-priced options (more exp by RM1k) that don't look as good
0.90CT/D/VS2/NONE/WSMFJ053
0.90CT/F/VS2/NONE/WSMQW023

The issues with these 2 diamonds are the dark spots that are quite obvious when I check the 360 report. Is the price premium due to NO fluorescence or the Color? In your opinion, which of these will be the best options?

Thank you so much in advance!

Fluorescence None vs. Faint will have some price difference. None will command a slightly higher price.

Higher colour will also be more expensive.

Different batch of diamonds will also have different prices, so they can be chance that an old E colour can be more expensive than a D colour if the old E colour has a higher price that time, at least, that’s what I observed la.

I am not sure about D&P prices but if they are similar to DeGem, which is their mother company, then their prices are fair, based on my last look see look see.

The names you mentioned are quite safe to purchase diamond. I met Zcova bosses before and they are fine people, so I won’t be worried about buying from them. As for Lavin, they have been doing a good job in promoting their brand (major newspapers, awards, etc) and I have seen them around for a some time too.

I don’t think any jeweller will offer you money-back guarantee for the diamond (maybe Tailored Jewel @ mid valley still does, but you need to check with them). If you are not comfortable buying by looking at the pictures and videos online, then I will say better to go and see the physical diamond. Nonetheless, buying with pictures and videos online are actually quite convenient and they are pretty much accurate. The things you may want to check is the BGM values (brown, green, milky). Make sure they are all NO. Usually you won’t get these from the jeweller if you don’t ask.

As for shipping, they are fully insured, so it should be fine.

On a side note, the diamonds you have chosen do not have clear black arrows, please skip them if possible. Find those with well-defined arrows. Try ask the jeweller you are engaging to help you to pick.

Any thoughts on Wah Chan’s diamond?

Quoted 4.4K for 0.4 carat with 3EX, VVS1, L, with GIA cert.

Also surveyed few others like Tomei, LukFook, Poh Kong ans ChowTaiFook but majority starts at 7k for 0.3 carat. What causes such a huge disparity between the outlets?