Thank you! Another question: as far as I know, these pave diamonds usually don't have certs because they are too small individually, but usually the jewellers I asked can tell me the color and clarity (and also the overall carat) for the diamonds — if I have extra budget, is it worth it/make sense to upgrade the pave diamonds to the best color and clarity possible within my budget limit? (assuming I fix the overall carat size because I want a 2.5mm ring with half-band diamond)

This is actually based on what the jeweler tell you and you won't have proper check by 3rd party independent valuation. You can consider this way if you trust the jeweler. As for worth it or not, try to compare the price between the one before upgrade and the one after upgrade. Personally, if I have the budget and the price is "acceptable" in my own opinion, I will upgrade, since I will probably going to buy this kind of thing once.

Thanks for the explanation! Am looking at zcova mainly, they should be trustable right? They quoted for 0.8 total carat, VVS clarity and D colour to be 6.3K.

This post has been edited by itachisensei: Aug 24 2023, 11:08 AM

The price seems ok. 15 diamonds?

Yes roughly 15 diamonds. Before upgrade the color is EF and it was 5.3k. Some said this price is really cheap for natural mined diamonds of this spec, or is this actually normal for pave diamonds?

This post has been edited by itachisensei: Aug 24 2023, 03:19 PM

It is 0.8 carat total weight. It is around 0.053ct per diamond. I would probably say this is normal since these are just melee diamonds that are not graded (which requires additional cost). But now that you mention it is EF initially... , which is also colourless, but with a 1k difference, it is not that value for money in this sense. But if you are still happy about it, then you can still go for it.

Thank you so much again for your advices!

This post has been edited by itachisensei: Aug 26 2023, 02:41 PM

Hi kambingkoh

What's your view on these?

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/1...ut-sku-a1050541

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/1...ut-sku-a4608828

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/1...ut-sku-a4614690

and not interested in below, but too much green at ASET 2 o'clock right? Bad performance?

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/1...ut-sku-a4622237

Thank you.

My preference is the 1.87ct I VS1. The performance looks great. It shows the best performance among these 3 diamonds from my point of view. The hearts and arrows look great. The 5 o’clock heart shows a very slight bent at the tip, but to me that is acceptable.

The second stone I like will be the 1.92ct I VS2. I just like its video more than 1.82ct.

The 1.52ct F VVS2 has nothing wrong, but if the green appears on the AGS Ideal Report, I will probably skip it if I want something to be more perfect. This is something like once I see it, I can’t unsee it.

Now, if you are not in a rush. Then try to check whether any G colour will be available soon. I think the price and carat weight should fit within your budget and expectation. You can also visit Brian Gavin Diamonds and see their offerings as well.

Currently I am still on vacation. So reply will be slow.

All the best to you in your diamond hunt.

Thank you for your reply.

Good point, can't unsee the green if it's on a report.

Will check out G and Brian Gavin Diamonds too, few options there at the moment.

Hello~ I'm new to diamonds, may I know why princess cut not commonly discussed? What are the things to take note if i were to get a princess cut diamond?

Hi kambingkoh

Received side by sides comparisons from WF. The 1.92 looks bigger then the others.

It's eye clean, but wondering about the visible feather inclusion at 12 o'clock on WF magnified photo. Do our local jewellers have any issues setting rings if it's VS2 with feathers? Would you yourself avoid setting your customer VS2 with feathers?

I think because round brilliant is more famous, and that's about it.

You can simply google on how to pick a princess cut: https://www.google.com/search?q=princess+cu...chrome&ie=UTF-8

One thing for sure is that princess cut should have lower price per carat compared to round brilliant. So let's say if you are getting a 0.5ct Princess Cut D VS1, the price should be lower than a 0.5ct Round Brilliant D VS1.

Some local jewellers do not like to set diamonds not sold by them to avoid any complications. Some jewellers may avoid diamond that they think is risky. Nonetheless, jewellers will not take responsibility if anything bad happened to diamonds not sold by them. Personally, I don't have problem with VS2 diamonds. The 1.92ct may have some risk though, and I won't say it is completely 100% risk-free. Usually in this case, I will ask the factory to pay extra caution when setting the diamond.

Yes, I have to be prepared to find suitable jeweller. You are an option too.

Is there any local jeweller that sell Super Ideal Cut nowadays? Think still no? Only JP in sg closest.

If you say providing hearts and arrows image and aset image, then probably not

sorry guys too much post to read through...
would like to ask anyone try Lavin New York?

Currently looking for engagement ring <6k
Quite poor so only consider lab grown

Zcova 0.5carat IF clarity --- RM4.2k, cheapest 18k ring RM2.2k
Lavin 1.1 carat VS1 clarity -- RM4.0k, cheapest 18k ring RM1.2k
Other specs are same, D, 3ex, both IGI certified

Too bad both of them can see the real diamond before placing order if it's lab grown diamond...


Is IF vs VS1 clarity has significant differences?

ZCOVA in this case is expensive.

Lavin in this case is reasonable.

Price comparison is done via Ritani (Google it).

Alternatively, this is mine: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5390271 (the price for ring setting has increased to RM 1700). But I will just honour the old price. Real diamond available for viewing. Interested can PM.

As for IF vs VS1, VS1 is always good enough as far as I am concerned. IF is overkill most of the time. You can't tell much without aid.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Sep 19 2023, 07:20 PM

Need help sifu. May I know if this is a good enough stone as an engagement ring. GIA 6471379545 D/VS2. Wondering if this is a real VS2 or a borderline VS2 (saw in previous post that made me concern) as I’ve not seen the real stone so am super worry if the inclusion will be visible anot

Usually inclusions on diamond are hard to see without aid. However if you already know the location of a particular inclusion, then somehow your eye will be ready to see it cause you know it’s there.

You should at least see the magnified video or picture and check if the crystal inclusion is black colour or not, since crystal is the main inclusion.

Honestly, specs wise this stones look decent. It is above 1 carat and top colour. The proportions are nice too. Clarity is VS2 and should be good enough, but just try to validate it with an actual image or video of the stone.