4.4k, does it come with ring setting? VVS1 is overkill though, but if the cut precision (hearts and arrows) are good + good proportions, then probably good price. Then again, I won't opt for L colour personally, unless I have some reason to do so, and that reason is not monetary reason. This is because in this situation, I can probably lower down the clarity and up the colour and get something like J VS2 for the same approximately the same price from places like ZCOVA. Of course, you can always benchmark against other jewelers and do some research on the prices. The reason I like to use ZCOVA is because their website is fairly easy to use to get what I want to survey. I do not earn any commission from them.

As for other jewelers you mention, let's say Poh Kong, if 7K for 0.3ct, you may probably be looking at their special cut called Hemera diamonds (101 facets). Normal round brilliant is 57 facets or 58 facet (if you include the culet). Special cut diamonds usually command a higher price. As for Tomei, you are probably looking at their Le Lumiere diamonds, which is their signature diamonds that have good hearts and arrows and probably good proportions as well. Nonetheless, they are still normal round brilliant, not special cut, so you can benchmark against normal round brilliant diamonds. LukFook and ChowTaiFook are Hong Kong / China brand, so I don't expect them to be that cheap.

Nonetheless, 0.3ct at RM 7k is actually on the expensive side. As for the disparity, it is probably because of [profit, marketing, branding, commission, royalty (any of these mixture, if not all)] Let's call this group "A". In reality, round brilliant pricing usually has a standard price list to follow, which is based on 4Cs. The price list is updated weekly. I don't think all diamond suppliers will follow that price list, but I believe most do. The jewelers will buy these diamonds and the mark-up with their own margin based on "A" (refer above).

Let me show you this diamond: https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/0...id=myengringexp (affiliate link - which means I may earn a commission if you buy through this link).

It will cost you RM 5,055.52, include free insured shipping to Malaysia, tax-free. My 18k ring setting STARTS from RM 1600 from my side, you can of course, look for alternatives, but I will use my own pricing as benchmark. Note: I am not the cheapest.

This means the price starts from RM 6655.52. Again, this is an overkill VVS1, but you are getting decent hearts and arrows with proven images. Proportions are excellent with 34.5 crown angle pair with 40.8 pavilion angle. The closest you can get to the ideal proportions between Crown and Pavilion based on Tolkowsky's ideal proportions (anyway, there are other angles that work well as well, this is just based on book theory).

One thing some people may overlook is that WhiteFlash actually uses the full diamond report, not diamond dossier (small diamond info certificate, in layman term). Full diamond report is more expensive and it includes the inclusion plotting diagram. Usually shops will tell you only 1 carat and above will have full diamond report, anything below will only have diamond dossier. This practice is quite common. But in actual fact, the jeweler/general users that submits the diamond for evaluation by GIA can opt for the more expensive full diamond report, which is the case here. AGS ideal report is also included, which shows the ASET image of the diamond, that helps to show the diamond light performance. In other words, you can probably getting more detail info by paying less if you opt for this route to complete your engagement ring.

Buying from brick-and-mortar is actually easier and hence some people won't mind paying the extra cash. Using custom route is harder and some people don't prefer this route because they want service and guidance. So, there is no right or wrong way, just which way you prefer. It is just the same concept of finding contractor to paint your condo, or you buy paint and paint yourself, or heck, you buy the paint and hire people to just paint it.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Jun 12 2023, 04:41 PM

Apologies, I actually gave the wrong information. It was VVS2 with K color and yes it does come with the ring setting. Here's the GIA number:

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=2396955527



This is actually one of their mid year promotion and me and my missus eventually narrowed down to 0.3 carat L color RM3.2k and 0.4 carat K color 4.4k. Both are 3EX and VVS2. She went with the bigger one, no surprise there haha.

Understood that we are sacrificing the color for the lower price, but the closest price we can get is TSL at 0.3 carat, SI2 at 5.9k. Eventually we ended up with WahChan because nothing came close price wise. It looked a bit yellowish when compared side by side, and the ring setting design is not the best (18k tho), but I guess that's what justify the price tag.

The proportions is not bad. It has strong blue fluorescence which is a good thing for lower colour diamonds as it can help to make the diamond look whiter.

Well, since you brought her together to pick a diamond then I guess nothing can go wrong. Lol.

If you want options, 4.4k you can consider 0.4ct J colour from ZCOVA.

Personally, I am also selling some 0.3ct at around the same price range as well. D/E colour, at least VS1, together will custom 18k ring setting.

My apologies if this is not a related thread, couldn't find a suitable one. Anyone here knows where to get plain platinum/titanium ring for single men? haha

Tailored Jewel has a collection of Titanium rings:
https://www.tailoredjewel.com/collection/ri...g-bands/page/2/

For Platinum, I think most jewellers will have them.

For those that looking to buy 1 carat lab grown diamond: http://www.myengagementringexperience.com/...-lab-grown.html

Hi Sifu

Would like to seek for views here from what I visited below for lab grown diamond.
Looking at thread here seems like a lot other consideration such as fluorescence, degree/angle, etc. The sales did show me IGI certification to match the spec below but I not managed to recalled other than below.
My budget is around 5k to 10k btw. Thanks!

1. Love & Co
0.73/F/VS1/idealcut/14k white gold band - RM10953

2. SK Jewel
0.74/F/VS2/idealcut/14 white gold band - RM9519

Come find me, I give you RM 8000 for 1 carat E VS1 IGI with Platinum (more premium than 18k) LOL. Cash term only.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/1...id=myengringexp (affiliate link) - RM 6,036.72

My platinum setting (cap at size HK 16) - RM 2000

I round up RM 8000 for you lol.

What I want to say is that they are quite overpriced. I believe you still have some "space" to haggle with them, if you interested.

Thanks for your advice! I looking around and notice about Zcova. I will pay a visit and looking forward for more option!

any idea will there be any custom duties/tax imposed upon arrival if I were to purchase just a plain titanium/platinum ring from other countries online store?

Jewellery should have 10% tax. Some sellers may declare something else or reduce the price to avoid tax, but this may impact on the insurance claim if needed.

Hi all, planning to propose and looking for an engagement ring with budget of RM5k and below. Have no idea where to start other than browsing in ZCOVA. Any advises would very much be welcomed!

I am also wondering will it be a huge deal to resize the ring later in case the ring does not fit snugly in the ring finger? I've gotten a rough size of her ring finger though.

Thanks!

1) At this price, you can consider natural diamond colourless 0.3ct range (3EX round, non-fluorescence) + solitaire ring OR lab diamond colourless 0.8ct range (Ideal cut, non-fluorescence) + solitaire ring.

2) Resizing is fairly simple, just make sure the size is not too far apart (maybe within 2 sizes).

Thanks bro for your advice. I'll have this to start with and then go down the rabbit hole...

Can get opinion on this diamond ?

https://www.igi.org/reports/verify-your-report?r=563203693

0.94c D VS1
Crown angle 33.1 pavillion 40.7 table 59%

From the looks of it the Hearts and Arrows can be better, but I think it still look pretty decent. I would shortlist it and look for more options to compare with. This is because personally I still prefer to stick with something that falls within the "red and blue zone" of diamond screener's cut estimator: https://www.diamondscreener.com/cut-estimator/

I also prefer something that gets close to specific parameters, such as the one from WhiteFlash ACA: https://www.whiteflash.com/a-cut-above-diam...id=myengringexp (affiliate link)

OR GCAL 8X Cut Grade: https://www.gcalusa.com/gcal-8x-cut-grade.html

I have to stress that this is not a hard and fast rule. There can still be nice diamonds that fall outside of those parameters. It is just that I would like to see more options before making the final decision. Of course, and also compare the price.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Aug 9 2023, 01:10 AM

Hi, I am looking for a proposal ring with the following criteria, can any sifu here give some recommendation?

- No center stone
- Naturally mined diamond
- V-shaped (wishbone style), platinum, 2.5mm shank

Are you referring to something like below:



This is consider a wedding band.

Yes haha, my gf wants one without a center stone. Do you know any good shops/brands where I can get one with price between 6-8k?

https://zcova.com/2-half-eternity-v

https://zcova.com/2-full-eternity-v

https://zcova.com/25-half-eternity-v

https://zcova.com/25-full-eternity-v

https://www.tailoredjewel.com/shop/v-crown-diamond-band/

https://www.tailoredjewel.com/shop/v-diamond-band/