came across this thread while i am browsing my wedding stuff. im surprised at how clueless so many of you guys are when it comes to purchasing diamond rings for your girlfriends . and how this thread is dominated mainly by the indie shops just because they appear to be ‘cheaper’…

they appear to be cheaper only because you compare indie’s net price with retailers’ gross price. after discounts, they are not that big of a difference…not to mention most of the time ppl are comparing GIA (which is a normal stone) to a branded stone…

even if it’s few percentage higher?…at least you are guaranteed with a real stone (cos big stores cant run away). i have friends who got conned by some indie shop (heard his diamond got exchanged when the shop send for casing cos that shop doesnt have own factory). in the end nobody wants to take responsibility..

My stone will be arriving soon, any places recommended for simple comfort fit setting in KV? How long does it usually take to do the setting?

I went to Memory Jewelry as recommended by sifus here. Design is simple yet elegant, you can check them out.

For memory Jewellery, you need to specifically ask for comfort fit. They usually do standard fit.

You can also check out The Gem Tribe at Cheras too. Their settings look pretty decent as well.

Of course, cannot miss out iDo Jewellery. She has been in this industry for quite some time.

Finally received my stone, big and shine!
Thanks kambingkoh for the knowledge in this thread.

Memory quote me 2.9k for setting my 1.2ct on six prongs comfort solitaire
Is the price reasonable?

Tried to contact Ido, but they dont really bother to reply me

This post has been edited by mrkeann: Jun 13 2019, 05:52 PM

Where did you buy this stone from?

It is a lab stone from brilliant earth

2.9k is like so expensive for me but that depends on design too. Anyway, you can ask The Gem Tribe to quote you as well... IDo will reply one, try their WhatsApp or Facebook messenger.

You can also try Frou Frou, and see what is their quote.

Even Zcova and Tailored Jewel also can help you set the diamond.

So your options are plenty. All you have to do is ask.

The quote is based on classic 6 prongs design.
I am surprised too, because there are a lot of compliments here about Memory pricing
Did they quote wrongly? 1.9k become 2.9k?

iDo setting starting from 2.2k for stone above 1ct.
I think I am gonna visit them

This post has been edited by mrkeann: Jun 13 2019, 09:45 PM

Yup. Just pay them a visit. Ling is friendly to talk to. Located around Bukit jalil area. She doesn't have a physical shop so you will probably see her at a cafe near that area.

Thats why i said these indie shops being 'cheap' is overrated.

And the thing is alot of indie shops are not transparent with the gold they use. I have friends who have very similar ring, 18K ring with a 1 carat diamond BUT the one who got it done in indie shop has much lighter weight (the price diff was only 100 to 200 as i recall). She decided to ask the boss and the reply was 'it's according to standard'...

I would really recommend you to ask the local jewellery chains for quotation but there is a possibility that they might not take because it's lab diamond. But no harm asking though. You will probably be surprised with the price and service competitiveness.

Hahaha Tiffany is expensiveee. But i must say it is expensive for a reason though. Wearing tiffany is like bringing a hermes bag. It's the pride and confidence that come with it.

I see some ppl compare prices for Tiffany/Hearts on Fire/Lazare/Le Lumiere with WhiteFlash? That's like comparing Hermes bag with Coach bag. Quality wise might be the same (even though i duno whiteflash is really as comparable) but price difference is there because of the branding. So WhiteFlash might be slightly cheaper in terms of price but value wise i doubt so.

Not trying to say WhiteFlash is that bad but i believe ultimately you should get something that your fiancee wants. Trust me..most girls would rather want a smaller diamond from a known brand than a bigger diamond from an unknown brand.

Quoting some of the messages from the pioneers in this thread previously.

'Bro, just get whatever your fiancee like. Never get her engagement ring that "you think" is best for her, the ladies' brain works slightly different as we know it.' - post #17

'just go for what your gf loves. the heart that you did notice her preference counts~' - post #20

Hi all,

I found a brian gavin discount code for 10% off: June1910.

Wanted some advice from members here on following cushion cut diamonds from BrianGavin and Whiteflash.

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...#33;prettyPhoto[gallery2]/0/

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/c...ond-3987850.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/c...ond-4013565.htm

Also found a setting which I really liked on whiteflash, any recommendations/idea how much it would cost to set locally?:

https://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings...t-ring-1134.htm

Lastly, is it true there is no tax for online diamond purchase sent to Malaysia?

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link) is the better choice among the options here.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/c...id=myengringexp (affiliate link) cut quality is not as good as Brian Gavin's one. You can see that the arrows are not being fully reflected, and some arrow head is not fully aligned with the arrow body.

For the Brian Gavin piece, you can request them to provide you the performance images, ie Idealscope, ASET, and Hearts. And with this discount, you are actually saving 7% extra because they consider the 3% wire discount a discount also. You can try to ask for free shipping to Malaysia, might be able to get it.

Yes, there is no tax for loose diamonds. You only pay that amount you paid. That's all.

As for the ring setting, is that what your other half likes? If yes, then you can try to ask local jewellers to do something similar. I will say it won't be 100% same though. That ring setting from Whiteflash is interesting because it uses platinum head, which can hold the stone better in case you knock it. At least I did not see such offerings in Malaysia.

If you need a quote, you can always contact:
1. Memory Jewelry.
2. The Gem Tribe.
3. iDo Jewellery.
4. Zcova.
5. Tailored Jewel.

You can always follow their Instagram and see how their work looks like. Or you can visit them as well.

White gold has 2 variances as far as I know. One that contains nickel, the other that does not contains nickel, but palladium. Palladium one will usually be more expensive but it won't cause sensitivity to skin, unlike nickel which will cause sensitivity to a minority of people.

But from your ring selection, seems like you opt for yellow gold instead?

Anyway, let me know if you need help with your purchase of the diamond, since I am affiliate with both WhiteFlash and Brian Gavin Diamonds.

Good luck.

Hi Kambingkoh!

Thanks for the response, i did favour brian gavin but their settings were so expensive, and so i went to look at whiteflash. From what i see, whiteflash is taking the stone from their suppliers/contacts and have no real pictures to look at.

Can you help compare these BG stones with the one i sent? Not much choices for my size n budget.do you think G and SI1 is better than H vs2? Seems they have mostly H colours for the cushions.

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104105165007

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104103128002

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104104700006

Yes i showed my gf some engraved setting pics ans she also liked the whiteflash one. Also do you think I should have other considerations because of yellow gold setting? Should i change the head to gold as well?

Either the 1.075ct H VS1(affiliate link) or

1.073ct H VS2 (affiliate link)

The downside of G SI1 is the inclusion on the table that may be able to be seen at very close range, despite it is being said eye-clean because eye-clean definition is non-standard. I can't find BGD's definition, but WhiteFlash's one will be this:

No inclusions visible to the naked eye of a person with 20/20 vision when viewing the diamond in the face-up position at a distance of approximately 10 inches under normal overhead lighting .

So at very close range, you may be able to observe the inclusion if you look carefully.


The H VS1 is slightly bigger and has proportions that look more like a round brilliant as well, personally, I would tend to think that this sort of Hearts and Arrows cushion is modified from a round brilliant so that seems to be a good diamond to select. But again, since this diamond is not exactly round brilliant, so it is not really a hard and fast rule.

As for the H VS2. I would probably say it will have better fire, since the table is small and the crown is tall. But I still prefer how pleasing looking the H VS1 is. And the Hearts on the VS1 also looks better overall.

The advice I usually provide to people is that ask the vendor consultant to take out all 3 stones and compare side-by-side. They own the actual stones so they can actually do that. Ask them which one they will choose personally. Their advice usually are pretty good and they may not choose the most expensive one. You can probably ask them to ask a few more persons in the office to get a better statistics.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have other questions.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you have other questions.

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Thanks KambingKoh. Just wondering if you also took account of this stone in your comparison?

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...#33;prettyPhoto

[quote=ThEmAGpiE,Jun 16 2019, 01:37 PM]
Hope this helps. Let me know if you have other questions.

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Thanks KambingKoh. Just wondering if you also took account of this stone in your comparison?

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...#33;prettyPhoto

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Nope. But now that you mentioned... this stone face-up diameter is very nice as well. Above 6mm. Facing-up wise, this has the best value. So you would probably want to throw this into the mix of 4 stones when asking the consultant.

[quote=kambingkoh,Jun 16 2019, 02:04 PM]
Thanks KambingKoh. Just wondering if you also took account of this stone in your comparison?

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...#33;prettyPhoto

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Nope. But now that you mentioned... this stone face-up diameter is very nice as well. Above 6mm. Facing-up wise, this has the best value. So you would probably want to throw this into the mix of 4 stones when asking the consultant.

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Yes this would be my first choice. Seems to be nice measurements much bigger surface than most 1C cushions. Just a question about the measurements 6.01mm x 6.66mm. I read through why the measurements are different on the BG website, but I read that the 6.01 is supposed to be the longest edge to edge diagonal measurement and the 6.66mm is the edge to edge (inner diameter). How is it possible the diagonal is shorter than the inner???

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/...arrows#measured

[quote=ThEmAGpiE,Jun 16 2019, 02:36 PM]
Nope. But now that you mentioned... this stone face-up diameter is very nice as well. Above 6mm. Facing-up wise, this has the best value. So you would probably want to throw this into the mix of 4 stones when asking the consultant.

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Yes this would be my first choice. Seems to be nice measurements much bigger surface than most 1C cushions. Just a question about the measurements 6.01mm x 6.66mm. I read through why the measurements are different on the BG website, but I read that the 6.01 is supposed to be the longest edge to edge diagonal measurement and the 6.66mm is the edge to edge (inner diameter). How is it possible the diagonal is shorter than the inner???

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/...arrows#measured

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It is impossible for the diagonal to be more than the edge to edge. It does not make sense at all. I believe the longer one should represent the diagonal measurement. Perhaps they just use it interchangeably, whichever measured first. I would check with BGD consultant to double confirm on this.