It is impossible for the diagonal to be more than the edge to edge. It does not make sense at all. I believe the longer one should represent the diagonal measurement. Perhaps they just use it interchangeably, whichever measured first. I would check with BGD consultant to double confirm on this.

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Yeah thats what I thougth! Thanks for your help, will do the compare, and send out some emails about the ring setting to the list you gave me. Appreciate all your input

Will there be tax if the diamond is set in a ring and delivered to MY?

Now this I am not sure. Don't have the budget to test it now. :/

Buddy, suggest you look into the cut quality of tiffany v ACA of whiteflash. You may justify the price tag on marketing n branding but in terms of actual product the tiffany diamond is the coach bag n not the hermes

Well, to say that Tiffany is coach while ACA is hermes in terms of quality means that you don't really know how to assess quality well enough. If really like you said, whiteflash is better quality than Tiffany, then at best it would only be a LV/Chanel (Tiffany) vs. Hermes (ACA) comparison for QUALITY. Tiffany diamonds are known to have high quality diamonds (they are also famous for their quality not just expensive pricing so they can't be coach).

But in terms of overall branding, ACA will only be the coach, while Tiffany is the Hermes. Just so you know it's pretty known that most of the branded bags are of same quality, sometimes the cheaper ones like Coach might even have better quality items than certain items in LV/Chanel/Hermes but just because of the branding, LV/Chanel/Hermes are priced higher. So would you be buying coach (ACA) at 20 to 30% cheaper? I wouldn't..i want them to be 70 to 80% cheaper...this is what I meant by getting value. Again, my analogy is based on overall branding not on quality or pricing itself.

And this is Tiffany. I haven't even started talking about the really good quality and comparable ones like Hearts On Fire, Lazare etc..

I know some ppl might say nobody can tell the difference anyway. Well, yes and no..i do get asked quite often where I get my rings..

But then again, my idea has always been getting what your fiancee wants. I read in your previous post that your fiancee is good with whiteflash or Brian gavin. So ya, that's the more important part I guess.

Hi Guys. I'm planning to propose but have no idea on what type of engagement rings to look for. My gf likes Chow Tai Fook. My budget is around rm7k. Any reccomendations? Thanks.

Hi guys and experts, I'm looking at engagement rings around 0.7 to 0.8 carat, without budget around 15k or so.

I've found these on zcova:

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=6315685531
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=1...s=1560771524081
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=7...s=1560772561761

Any advice?

Perhaps you can visit Chow Tai Fook and have a look first? If she likes the design that only Chow Tai Fook has, then it is certainly okay to buy from there if it meets your budget.

First one, 41.4 pavilion guarantee won't work nicely.

Second diamond, looks better. Followed by third diamond.

As far as ZCOVA is concerned, I highly recommend you to consult their sales consultant directly as what they listed on their website is lesser than what they can actually get. Zi Yin (their co-founder) is a GIA graduate gemologist, so he can assist you well.

Besides that, if you are comfortable buying overseas, you can consider:

Use Coupon Code: JUNE1910 to save 10% (this 10% has already include 3% wire discount). So I will just use full price - 10% for easier calculation. This discount is applicable to their standard signature line, so in this case, I would prefer to get their signature line to maximize on savings.

https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link). Using the full price - 10% = RM 15255.65 - 10% = RM 13730.09.
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link). Using the full price - 10% = RM 17033.08 - 10% = RM 15329.77.

Exchange rate provided by: https://transfer.moneymatch.co/

Try to ask for free shipping as they don't come free by default.

This post has been edited by kambingkoh: Jun 17 2019, 11:50 PM

DO NOT BUY FROM ENCHANTED DIAMONDS as of now.

They are now facing some serious issue and it is highly unlikely that they can provide you with anything.

Reference: https://www.pricescope.com/community/thread...-beware.249582/

If you see anything that you like on their virtual inventory, please go to our local vendor instead, like ZCOVA. This is because they are highly likely able to connect to the same suppliers.

Hey thanks so much for the feedback. I'll look into the options you provided. Really appreciate the help.

Your gf has taste! Chow tai fook has some good designs and wide variety of choices. With 7k you can probably look at something around 0.4 carat +- depending on colour and clarity. Don't be shy to ask for discounts! Retailers normally mark up abit more knowing that buyers will definitely ask for discounts.

Most of the time after discounts your price won't be too far off from the so called 'cheaper' indie shops.

My friend bought a 0.5 G VS1 from Habib for RM6k - Hearts and Arrows round diamond. Just to give you an idea of what you can get.

Hey magpie, are you sure your friend got 0.5 G VS1 from habib at 6k? currently zcova is doing a 0.5 E VS2 8.7k nett promo. initially wanted to go for the promo but seems like zcova is not that cheap afterall? my understanding is the two colour grades difference shudnt have such big price difference.

It can be cheap, but much more details are needed to evaluate. Such as, which grading report they use, is it triple excellent or equivalent? Does it has fluorescence? How are the proportions pairing?

I know some people do just aim for carat weight by sacrificing other areas. Nothing wrong with that, it is really a matter of preference.

Okay thanks for your explanation. But i guess i will visit some of the b&m shop to find out the differences...

Sure. Enjoy!

hi bro, u know how legit is 77diamonds?
link: https://www.77diamonds.com/

Yea. Heard about them before. I think they are pretty legit, but I am guessing that they are not owning any of those diamonds. They are probably running on virtual inventory as well.



Here is my thought and some things to share:

If you are buying from virtual inventory, I think the safer and better route is to buy from ZCOVA. Yes, I am one of their affiliates but even if I am not, I will still suggest them, simply for a few reasons, but the main one is that they can price match. Other reasons include the fact that they own their own showroom, they are not renting it. So it is highly unlikely that they will run away. Before they started off ZCOVA, they are already managing a successful business there so I can say that you are in good hands. Of course, I am not saying all business will remain that way, but I am pretty sure they are one of the stronger ones in this industry. They are also very comfortable to talk to and they are not pushy at all. Good people.

Lastly, I always compare them with other source for diamonds, but due to recent unfortunate event that happened to one of the US vendors Enchanted Diamonds that run on virtual inventory that is now facing bankruptcy due to reasons unknown, and declining to answer to customers that actually paid tonnes of money, so yes, as far as Virtual Inventory vendors are concerned, it is better to look for ZCOVA. They have way more extensive virtual inventory that what is listed online, so I would recommend people to just contact them directly via Facebook or WhatsApp. Even better, arrange a session with them to meet up at their showroom.

Of course, this is limited to those vendors that use Virtual Inventory. Other vendors like WhiteFlash or Brian Gavin Diamonds or High Performance Diamonds and anyone similar, that hold in-house stones using their own cash flow, those are always legit to me because the item is always available for sale, and not drop shipping. So you are good to go with those guys too.

We also have another new vendor in Malaysia local scene, called The Gem Tribe. The co-founder used to work with one of the brick-and-mortar stores in Malaysia and now she is starting a new company that seems to offer some pretty good value. She is not really running on virtual because she handpicks diamond from some local supplier that holds some physical stones in their inventory. This is how they are different. Meaning, you are guaranteed the stone is available for purchase. As for price, they seem pretty price-friendly too. What I really like about them is their ring settings and jewellery design. Either they are very good at photo-shooting or instagram filters, or they are simply doing some very good stuff, but I am very impressed by their work. So impressed that when I showed their instagram to one of my friend that bought a diamond from WhiteFlash, has actually taken his diamond and let The Gem Tribe to set it.

We still have iDo Jewellery in Bukit Jalil, which I think again, it is quite a safe choice for diamond purchase. Her settings are gorgeous too btw. A forumer actually went to visit her at a cafe and her the diamond that the forumer is looking at actually impressed him. She also used IdealScope and ASET on her diamonds, like how AGS vendors do it. So extra points of that. Price-wise, not the cheapest, but not the most expensive. Good balance if you prefer to have local vendor to provide you custom service.

So we still have Memory Jewellery. This is also another one that is strong enough to stand on their own feet. Lifetime free polishing for the rings. Easy to work with, easy to talk to. But recent expensive quotation for a 6 prong rings actually surprised me, but nonetheless, for smaller diamonds, the price should be pretty standard and affordable. Last known is that their supplier for diamonds are pretty limited but that particular supplier is actually a pretty good one. So you can still ask them for a quote.

Tailored Jewel - Full virtual inventory guy. Boss Ethon is the best at keeping promises including money-back guarantee. His ethics and willingness to surprise me make me feel like an asshole when I return my setting to him due to an isolated case. Due to his high integrity and excellent prices, it seems that he is enjoying a pretty successful business now. You can locate his store in Atria shopping mall at Damansara Jaya, next to MNG.

Frou Frou - Don’t think their price is cheap. But if you want someone beautiful to serve you, I think is worth a visit. Man, i feel like a pervert lol. But nonetheless, the boss is friendly to talk to (on WhatsApp) and pretty responsive. She is also very beautiful to look at (by my standard). I think she has a showroom in KL and Penang.

Others - W Jewellery, Eumacyo Jewellery (quite long already this company), Stretho Fine Jewellery, Boa Jewels, Pointers Jewellery, and much more. The list can go on and on forever. But those they are listed above with extra description are some of the companies that I have more engagements before.

Of course, brick-and-mortar stores are a good choice as well, if you want the peace of mind. I used to think that their price are expensive and whatsoever, but then, considering they have to pay the high amount of rental and pay salaries and commissions, and stocking up stones, and etc, I won’t say they are ripping you off. Just that, the stones have to be priced that way to cover their cost.

All right, that’s all for sharing. Let me know if you need any help in finding your stone.

If this is being sold for approximately RM 6k for stone alone. Will you buy this stone with overkill specs?

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=6...s=1561340805738