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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V6!

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whut?
post May 30 2014, 03:22 PM

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is there any case with
-good airflow
-can fit hyper 212x a
and also fit a r9 270x toxic

budget rm150
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post May 30 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(whut? @ May 30 2014, 03:22 PM)
is there any case with
-good airflow
-can fit hyper 212x a
and also fit a r9 270x toxic

budget rm150
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CM K380 / Bitfenix Comrade.
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post May 30 2014, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 30 2014, 01:24 PM)
Here's my suggestion. Running a SSD would improve your loading times, that's all the impact it has during games. I leave it as an option to you then. biggrin.gif

Intel Core i3 4130 - RM349
Asrock H81M-DGS - RM179
Corsair Value Ram 4GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM129
Palit GTX 750 StormX OC - RM420 (GBros)
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD - RM179
Gigabyte GZ Series Casing - RM69
FSP Hexa 500W PSU - RM149
Lite-On 24x DVDRW - RM59

Total – RM1533 (prices are from Viewnet)

Optional:
Plextor M5S 128GB SSD - RM274
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whut?
post May 30 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 30 2014, 03:35 PM)
CM K380 / Bitfenix Comrade.
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for the CM 380 it says

CPU cooler height: 155mm / 6.1 inch

while
hyper 212x
4.7 x 3.1 x 6.2 inch

can fit ? hmm.gif
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post May 30 2014, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(whut? @ May 30 2014, 05:00 PM)
for the CM 380 it says

CPU cooler height: 155mm / 6.1 inch

while
hyper 212x
4.7 x 3.1 x 6.2 inch

can fit ? hmm.gif
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IIRC, someone asked a similar question before and I believe it can fit just fine. However, you can PM one of our sellers in Garage Sales (zhen^wei), their shop assemble lots of CM K380 rigs. They can better confirm for you. wink.gif
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post May 30 2014, 09:56 PM

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Motherboard Manufacturer’s May Allow Intel’s Devil’s Canyon CPU Support on Z87 Motherboards

http://wccftech.com/motherboard-manufactur...7-motherboards/

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post May 30 2014, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 30 2014, 09:56 PM)
Motherboard Manufacturer’s May Allow Intel’s Devil’s Canyon CPU Support on Z87 Motherboards

http://wccftech.com/motherboard-manufactur...7-motherboards/

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post May 30 2014, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 30 2014, 10:47 PM)
Sell your i7 4770k and grab i7 4790k if it's official.. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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No point. The only reason why I even bought the 4770K was because my friend bundled it with the 290X. Got it cheap for 800+ or so for a fairly new unit. Otherwise for gaming I could've gotten a 4670 and a cheap mobo and focus on GPUs hahah.
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post May 31 2014, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 30 2014, 11:50 PM)
No point. The only reason why I even bought the 4770K was because my friend bundled it with the 290X. Got it cheap for 800+ or so for a fairly new unit. Otherwise for gaming I could've gotten a 4670 and a cheap mobo and focus on GPUs hahah.
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Not bad. wink.gif
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post May 31 2014, 08:56 AM

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May i know how much is the total price is:

Intel Xeon E3 1230 S1150 V3
Asrock B85M
Corsair D3 PC1600 8GB
WD Blue 1TB
PLEXTOR M5S 128G
Nvidia GTX 760
Asus 24x DVD Writer
Seasonic 620W S12II
carbride spec 3

My budget is 3k-3.5k, see whether it overpriced or not?

This post has been edited by jaslonely: May 31 2014, 09:05 AM
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post May 31 2014, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(jaslonely @ May 31 2014, 08:56 AM)
May i know how much is the total price is:

Intel Xeon E3 1230 S1150 V3
Asrock B85M
Corsair D3 PC1600 8GB
WD Blue 1TB
PLEXTOR M5S 128G
Nvidia GTX 760
Asus 24x DVD Writer
Seasonic 620W S12II
carbride spec 3

My budget is 3k-3.5k, see whether it overpriced or not?
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What is your usage? hmm.gif
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post May 31 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 31 2014, 10:50 AM)
What is your usage? hmm.gif
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Gaming tongue.gif
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post May 31 2014, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(jaslonely @ May 31 2014, 08:56 AM)
May i know how much is the total price is:

Intel Xeon E3 1230 S1150 V3
Asrock B85M
Corsair D3 PC1600 8GB
WD Blue 1TB
PLEXTOR M5S 128G
Nvidia GTX 760
Asus 24x DVD Writer
Seasonic 620W S12II
carbride spec 3

RM3137
My budget is 3k-3.5k, see whether it overpriced or not?
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QUOTE(jaslonely @ May 31 2014, 11:06 AM)
Gaming  tongue.gif
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What games are you gonna play? hmm.gif
CPU:Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM599
Mobo:Asrock H97 Pro4 RM329
GPU:Gainward GTX770 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM1185
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM235
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM193
PSU:Seasonic M12II 80+ Bronze Modular 620W RM359
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Casing:Corsair Carbide Spec-03 Red LED Fan RM205
SSD:Plextor M5S 128GB RM285
Total:RM3453
Prices are from Lingloong. wink.gif

Btw,ask him if he still have the Watch Dogs bundle with the GPU above.. nod.gif and the ODD,i can't find it in his threads.If the ODD isn't available,get it from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif

This post has been edited by Minecrafter: May 31 2014, 11:47 AM
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post May 31 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 31 2014, 11:42 AM)
What games are you gonna play? hmm.gif
CPU:Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM599
Mobo:Asrock H97 Pro4 RM329
GPU:Gainward GTX770 Phantom 2GB GDDR5 RM1185
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RM235
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM193
PSU:Seasonic M12II 80+ Bronze Modular 620W RM359
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Casing:Corsair Carbide Spec-03 Red LED Fan RM205
SSD:Plextor M5S 128GB RM285
Total:RM3453
Prices are from Lingloong. wink.gif

Btw,ask him if he still have the Watch Dogs bundle with the GPU above.. nod.gif and the ODD,i can't find it in his threads.If the ODD isn't available,get it from Viewnet@LYP. smile.gif
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Watch dogs and future games. brows.gif

Erm...,why i5 instead of xeon e3?? hmm.gif , izzit xeon e3 not suitable for gaming?? blink.gif

This post has been edited by jaslonely: May 31 2014, 11:57 AM
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post May 31 2014, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(jaslonely @ May 31 2014, 11:46 AM)
Watch dogs and future games. brows.gif

Erm...,why i5 instead of xeon e3??  hmm.gif , izzit xeon e3 not suitable for gaming??  blink.gif
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Base on my knowledge, both I5 and xeon e3 is suitable for gaming~ and performance = xeon e3 > I5.
But for gaming I5 is good enough. So, spend money for better graphic card > spend money for better cpu (for gaming).
Correct me if wrong~
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post May 31 2014, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(jaslonely @ May 31 2014, 11:46 AM)
Watch dogs and future games. brows.gif

Erm...,why i5 instead of xeon e3??  hmm.gif , izzit xeon e3 not suitable for gaming??  blink.gif
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Lol Xeon E3-1230 V3 has 4 more threads than an i5.
Xeon E3-1230 V3 : 4 Cores and 8 Threads
Core 5 : 4 Cores and 4 Threads

The extra amount of threads helps in rendering/editing stuffs like AutoCAD,Adobe Apps etc.I think future games are gonna utilize more than 4 cores i think.. hmm.gif

Since you're playing Watch Dogs,you can drop the SSD and get Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 RM799 instead.You can get an SSD later on. wink.gif

Picture below credit to IdealTech.

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post May 31 2014, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ May 31 2014, 12:29 PM)
Lol Xeon E3-1230 V3 has 4 more threads than an i5.
Xeon E3-1230 V3 : 4 Cores and 8 Threads
Core 5 : 4 Cores and 4 Threads

The extra amount of threads helps in rendering/editing stuffs like AutoCAD,Adobe Apps etc.I think future games are gonna utilize more than 4 cores i think.. hmm.gif

Since you're playing Watch Dogs,you can drop the SSD and get Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 RM799 instead.You can get an SSD later on. wink.gif

Picture below credit to IdealTech.
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hmm.gif How about the fx 8350? It have more core then xeon and i5. sweat.gif

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post May 31 2014, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(jaslonely @ May 31 2014, 12:43 PM)
hmm.gif How about the fx 8350? It have more core then xeon and i5. sweat.gif
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Having more cores does not mean better performance, especially if your single core works slower then another compatible chip.

PLUS, The problem is cores scale nowhere near 100% for gaming either. So a 8 core chip would not give you a direct advantage on that front either when it's single core performance is already slower than that of a Intel chip.

Example - ARMA 3 core loading on an 8-core AMD CPU:-
http://gamegpu.ru/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/ARMA%2...

vs an Intel 4-core CPU:-
http://gamegpu.ru/images/stories/Test_GPU/Action/ARMA%2...

Although 8 cores are being used, half are only used as little as 8% per core. On the 4-core Intel it isn't slower because it just means the cores loaded at 8% mean the difference between a 60% loaded core vs a 52% loaded core. It still isn't CPU bottlenecked. This is typical of many games - load 1-2 cores at 80-90% and the others often under 20% due to threading limitations.

Outside of very easily paralleled stuff (eg, video editing), even the most heavily optimised games (eg, Crysis 3) show only 50% difference between a 2C vs 4C but less than 10% 4C vs 8C AMD or 4C vs 6C Intel:-
http://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance...

New games engines may well be written for the new consoles with 8 cores, but each of those 8 cores runs at only half the speed of PC's - 1.75GHz for XBone & 2.0GHz for PS4. 4C->8C also doesn't scale anywhere near the 50% boost seen on some 2C->4C games.

Cross-platform games engines will also continue to be written for the "Lowest Common Denominator" (ie, consoles). You simply aren't going to see a "designed for 4GHz FX-8350 with all 8-cores maxed out" engine, because the same ported engine simply wouldn't run on an 1.75-2.0GHz PS4 or XB1 (whose CPU is only half the speed of desktop PC's even without 1-2 cores being held in reserve for background tasks).

Edit : It's also not a given that next-gen games will be coded for all 8 cores on consoles:-

Even with 8 cores, a number of next-gen games so far are either 1080p/30fps or 720p/60fps (Killzone Shadow Fall, Battlefield 4, etc). Part of that may be due to the GPU, but part may also be that CPU thread scaling isn't efficient enough to make up 30 vs 60fps difference, so it gets pegged at 30fps to avoid screen tearing / more consistent fps on consoles.

(Above information has been compiled from comments on online forums.)

This post has been edited by Sentinel92: May 31 2014, 06:47 PM
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post May 31 2014, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(jaslonely @ May 31 2014, 11:43 AM)
hmm.gif How about the fx 8350? It have more core then xeon and i5. sweat.gif
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Also, the 8350 is quite power consuming.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/0...x-8350-review/7



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Purpose: Architectural studies

Hardwares that will be re-use: None

Monitor resolution: Full HD IPS

Games & softwares: AutoCAD, Revit, SketchUp, Battlefield 4, Call Of Duty: Ghost

Personal preferences: Intel + Nvidia build and I'm not going to overclock it.

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