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post May 24 2014, 01:52 AM

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[Budget]
RM3k +-(Exclude Monitor)

[Purpose]
Coding/Programming > Gaming >Web-surfing > Watch movies

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Programming: Visual studio 2013
Gaming: Blade and soul, Dota 2, COD

[Personal preferences]
Due to no air-con and 24hours switch on computer, computer temperature is an issue for me.
Visual studio and game normally will run together~

[Location]
KL

Question:-
1) Most of the recommendation of processor is i5 4440 processor, is it really not worth to spend $$ to buy a good processor (eg:i7 7440) ? Performance speed is not much different?
2) Most of the recommendation(izit all hmm.gif ) is (Intel + Nvidia), is AMD no so good compare with (Intel + Nvidia)?
3) Is SSD affect frame rate and loading speed while playing game ? worth to spend $$ for it ?

This post has been edited by ts00000000: May 24 2014, 01:54 AM
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post May 24 2014, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 02:23 AM)
1) Most of the builds here are for gaming, which is not heavily processor dependant. A Core i5-4440 would suffice. But since you're emphasizing on coding/programming with some lighter games, a better processor would suit you.
2) Not really. We like to push for AMD GPUs, especially the 290. But under 1K budgets it's hard to find a card good as the GTX760.
3) yes, the SSD would help with programmes like programming. Gaming it's mostly help decrease loading time

Here is your build:

CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo- Gigabyte GA - H87-D3H RM389
Memory-Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB Kit (4GBx2) 1600Mhz RM279
GPU - PALIT GeForce® GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual (2048MB GDDR5) RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVO 128GB RM300
HDD-1TB WD Blue RM 189
PSU- Seasonic M12-II 620W RM359
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Casing - Corsair Spec - 03 RM205
Cooling - Cooler Master TCP 612 CPU Cooler RM189

Total: RM3317.

You may get a cheaper Cooler Master heatsink if you feel you want to cut back, or get the Seasonic S12-II 620W @ RM299 as well. Stick to this PSU so in the future you can upgrade your graphics without much hassle.
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notworthy.gif Thanks for your answer and recommendation!! I have few more question need your advice
Question:-
1) I can't find the PALIT GeForce® GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual (2048MB GDDR5), i only can find MSI GTX750 TI twin frozr oc and others GTX 750TI (viewnet list).
is it all the GTX 750 TI have almost same performance ? and what is the different between them ?
2) Due to over budget, can I remove the SSD-Samsung 840 EVO 128GB RM300? the performance will drop alot ? if yes, I spend the extra RM 300 to buy it~
3) you mention get the seasonic s12-II 620W @ RM299, is it offer ? you listed down the model seasonic s12-II 620W with RM359

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post May 24 2014, 03:55 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 03:20 AM)
He did mention 24/7 no air con so why not? Haha.
No worries. Fire away any enquiries.

1) The price lists here is based on items sold by a LYN Vendor named Linglong. Of course if you feel better getting it from a store like viewnet then by all means go ahead. But there will be price and model differences. Sorry for not pointing it out earlier. He has the Palit StormX Dual.

But please note that buying it as a whole would result in cheaper prices anyways whether be it at viewnet or All IT or any lowyat network vendor, especially if paid in cash. smile.gif

2) Yes you may, but once you have the ability to get the SSD please do. It'll help with everyday computing.

3) The original PSU I recommended was the M12-II, which is modular and more neater when building a PC. The S12-II isn't, which is why it's cheaper at Rm299.

Hope I answered your queries. smile.gif
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Again, thanks for your answer!!
1) If I want to buy from viewnet and viewnet have not the model that you recommend, is it I can G-BYTE GTX750 TI oc 2GB D5 128 RM589 instead of Palit StormX Dual? Actually what is the different between them (Same GTX750 TI Model but with different name). Can you briefly explain the differential ?
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post May 24 2014, 04:37 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 04:16 AM)
The Palit Storm X Dual as far as i know is the highest clocked and hence fastest version of the GTX750TI @1202Mhz Clock Speed/6Ghz memory, if i am not mistakan thus far.

The Gigabyte is at 1033Mhz Clock Speed/5.4Ghz memory, although you'll still be able to OC later, since its not as highly overclocked as the Palit.

I have attached a chart below. Guru3D is a pain by not allowing to attach images. This is a gaming comparison, using Battlefield 4.

Both are the same card. Just that Palit is the ffaster version.

If you can you can get your whole PC from Viewnet but get the Palit from linglong. Or see if other lowyat mall sellers have it, or get your entire rig from linglong himself all together too.
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I got it! Thats mean all the brand that you know for model GTX750TI, the Pilit storm X dual is the most faster ~ I will try to get it! Thanks for your advise and the chart!!!

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post May 24 2014, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 04:53 AM)
Yeah, that pretty much works the same for all graphics cards.  Certain third party models would be the fastest amongst the batch.

nVidia or AMD would release a model and third party manufacturers like ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, HIS, Club 3D would out their own spin on it. There is also brand specific third party manufacturers like Zotac, Palit, EVGA, Gainward, Galaxy (All for nVidia only) or Sapphire, Powercolor and XFX (AMD only).

Gives for interesting comparisons and competition.  thumbup.gif
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Is it have any website to get the performance comparison for different graphic card? Like the chart that you uploaded.
For GTX75TI both Gigabyte and Palit have the almost same price, is it any reason that someone choose Gigabyte instead of Palit?
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post May 24 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 11:13 AM)
Dude that one you have to go search yourself. Websites like eteknix, guru3D, anandtech, techpowerup, and a ton of websites does do reviews for GPUs, with the occasional comparison like in that chart I showed up, but that's pretty hard to find. You'll have to slowly go through the sites one by one, and Google reviews for both cards you wanna compare.

Any reason? Brand preferences. Some people just like gigabyte. Or availability, some retailers.don't carry Palit,which you've seen first hand.
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Yea, that is those website I needed,
I will try to find the Pilit GTX750Ti, already ask for best price from linglong brows.gif
Btw, nvidia not a brand?
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post May 24 2014, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ May 24 2014, 12:34 PM)
Nvidia and AMD are basically manufacturers that produces GPUs, so in a way it's a brand, but you will not find a card that is sold and marketed as Nvidia/AMD accordingly.

Brand names are those like Palit, Gigabyte, Asus, MSI and etc, that takes those GPUs from Nvidia/AMD and then market it under their own brand name.
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Yea, This is the answer!!! I always confuse it!! Thanks for your description !!
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post May 28 2014, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 24 2014, 02:23 AM)
1) Most of the builds here are for gaming, which is not heavily processor dependant. A Core i5-4440 would suffice. But since you're emphasizing on coding/programming with some lighter games, a better processor would suit you.
2) Not really. We like to push for AMD GPUs, especially the 290. But under 1K budgets it's hard to find a card good as the GTX760.
3) yes, the SSD would help with programmes like programming. Gaming it's mostly help decrease loading time

Here is your build:

CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3-RM779
Mobo- Gigabyte GA - H87-D3H RM389
Memory-Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB Kit (4GBx2) 1600Mhz RM279
GPU - PALIT GeForce® GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual (2048MB GDDR5) RM569
SSD-Samsung 840 EVO 128GB RM300
HDD-1TB WD Blue RM 189
PSU- Seasonic M12-II 620W RM359
ODD-liteon 24x DVD/RW-RM59
Casing - Corsair Spec - 03 RM205
Cooling - Cooler Master TCP 612 CPU Cooler RM189

Total: RM3317.

You may get a cheaper Cooler Master heatsink if you feel you want to cut back, or get the Seasonic S12-II 620W @ RM299 as well. Stick to this PSU so in the future you can upgrade your graphics without much hassle.
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May I know is it have any others option for GPU, PSU and casing(around same price)~ Because I unable to get it ~
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post May 28 2014, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 28 2014, 06:51 PM)
Unable? Where did you go and buy? Linglong should have all three.

Well, you can swap with any other GTX750 Ti variations,  PSU you can get the S12-II 620W @ RM299, and casing you can look at the NZXT Source 210 @ RM159.
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I ask price from 2 suppliers, 1 lack of GPU, PSU and casing that you intro to me. Linglong reply that Mobo- Gigabyte GA - H87-D3H = no stock ~
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post May 29 2014, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 28 2014, 08:48 PM)
Aiks. How about the newer components I recommended?

Mobo you can follow Minecrafter's suggestion.
Sorry lah Sifu. Haha.
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LingLoong have the stock of ASRock H97 PRO4
LingLoong recommended ASRock H87 PERFORMANCE
Which is should I buy ?
About newer components that you recommended I din't not receive any reply yet~

btw, which 1 is better
1) from lingloong
CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3
mobo-ASRock H97 PRO4/ASRock H87 PERFORMANCE
Memory-Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB Kit (4GBx2) 1600Mhz
GPU - PALIT GeForce® GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual (2048MB GDDR5)
HDD-1TB WD Blue
PSU- Seasonic M12-II 620W
Casing - Corsair Spec - 03
Cooling - Cooler Master TCP 612 CPU Cooler

2) your new recommendation
CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3
mobo- Gigabyte GA - H87-D3H
Memory-Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB Kit (4GBx2) 1600Mhz
GPU - GTX 750 Ti (Asus/Gigabyte)
HDD-1TB WD Blue
PSU- S12-II 620W
Casing - NZXT Source 210
Cooling - Cooler Master TCP 612 CPU Cooler

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post May 29 2014, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 29 2014, 02:18 PM)
Lol bro recommendation 1 was my original build for you except for the motherboard.  But otherwise follow lingloong's recommendaction since it has the StormX Dual, and im assuming since he gave you the list he has stocks for all.

The H87 Performance is also fine. But only take it if the H97 Pro4 is really out of stock.
NZXT Source 210. smile.gif
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lol, you have misunderstand. The both spec is recommended by you, from lingloong is mean lingloong have the stock~
lingloong is only recommended ASRock H87 PERFORMANCE for me~due to Gigabyte GA - H87-D3H out of stock~

So I will place order below things later~(your recommendation)
CPU-Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3
mobo-ASRock H97 PRO4 (priority) /ASRock H87 PERFORMANCE (if h97 pro4 out of stock)
Memory-Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB Kit (4GBx2) 1600Mhz
GPU - PALIT GeForce® GTX 750 Ti StormX Dual (2048MB GDDR5)
HDD-1TB WD Blue
PSU- Seasonic M12-II 620W
Casing - Corsair Spec - 03
Cooling - Cooler Master TCP 612 CPU Cooler

hopefully all in stock~
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post May 31 2014, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(jaslonely @ May 31 2014, 11:46 AM)
Watch dogs and future games. brows.gif

Erm...,why i5 instead of xeon e3??  hmm.gif , izzit xeon e3 not suitable for gaming??  blink.gif
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Base on my knowledge, both I5 and xeon e3 is suitable for gaming~ and performance = xeon e3 > I5.
But for gaming I5 is good enough. So, spend money for better graphic card > spend money for better cpu (for gaming).
Correct me if wrong~
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post Jun 10 2014, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ May 29 2014, 03:03 PM)
Yeah lingloong's list is closest to my original recommendation. Hahaha. But yeah a change in mobo is fine. I also hope it'll all be in stock for you.  thumbup.gif

Keep us posted as to your progress. smile.gif
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Get the computer already, Thanks for your recommendation!!

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