Too bought in by the silky smooth matte-black type design offered by Bitfenix, which is why I'm also using a Razer Blackwidow despite what people say about Razer products.

So far I like Colossus M and Phenom M best... yup, both by Bitfenix

But both doesnt come with removable dust filters

EDIT: Actually I think it does... just caught it on one of the paragraphs on the website (its not specifically mentioned in the spec sheet). Will have to check it out at LYP.

This post has been edited by phoenixxx: Jul 23 2014, 01:40 AM

Corsair 250d.

hi guys, let say i want to upgrade my motherboard, currently using b85 chipset mobo, with i5 4440

can i choose z97 for this proc? i just wan to take advantage of the pcie combo slot, which lower end chipset mobo doesnt usually offer good ratio

so what do u guys think? i5 4440 on z97, can work ok?

Definitely you can. You just lose out on the overclocking capability only. You mean the multi-card setup right? E.g CFX/SLI x8 / x8.

the case usb will connected directly to mobo.

the one on the back as in the picture below are obviously case ready,


but this one you have to connect it with case usb bcuz there is no way for you to use that directly from mobo.

yes definitely, thanks for your answer still thinking either to upgrade the mobo or just sell off 1 card, the heat from 2x r9 290 is horrible


and bro does pcie 3.0 x8/x8 setup offer significant improvement over my current setup which is pcie 3.0 x16/ pcie 2.0 x4

Was planning on decent photoshop rig with a budget of 2.5 - 3k
What are the recommendations excluding monitor, speaker?

Prefer to have 16GB ram setup.
Mediocore gpu is sufficient…nvidia preferred.

Intel Core i5 4460 3.2GHz RM589
Asrock H97 Pro4 mainboard RM329
Kingston KVR1600MHz 8GB x2 RM478
Gainward GTX750 2GB DDR5 RM460
Antec VP-550P 80+ Bronze PSU RM199
NZXT Source 210 ATX Chassis RM179
WD Caviar Blue 1TB HDD RM174
Plextor M5Pro Extreme 128GB SSD RM329
Lite-On 24x DVDRW RM59

Total - RM2796.00 Viewnet & Idealtech prices.

You mean the heat exhausted from running those 2 cards is too hot for you? What brand you using?

Yes there is, it is slower running at x4. You need at least x8 in order to utilize as much of the GPU's capability as possible.

This is a good read here.

This post has been edited by rav3n82: Jul 23 2014, 07:50 AM

Sorry for the late reply,

Thank you for the viewnet link. Do they accept for something like online shopping?

Because I checked the local pc store in my area, they didn't have sapphire series, only asus, gigabyte brands and I must say, quite overpriced, even gigabyte r7 250 would cost me nearly RM400

For Bitfenix Phenom-M and Colossus-M, assuming you're looking at the M-ATX version, it does have a dust filter but only at the top, this is because for the M-ATX layout the intake is reversed from top to bottom/back unfortunately for the PSU intake at the front, there is none

Hi guys..I would like to build a new rig with these specs


Intel i5-4460
Asrock H81M-HDM
Gskill Aegis 2x4gb ddr3 1600
WD 1TB Blue
Thermaltake Versa H21
FSP Hexa 550W
LG 24x sata dvdrw 
Gainward GTX750TI Golden Sample 2GB

My doubt is about the motherboard. .. should I get the asrock b85m hds instead? The b85 is about RM50 more expensive...

Got any difference between this 2? Which motherboard should I choose? Any help is appreciated. ..thx ^.^

Only difference is more USB port and more SATA ports, also special features or something similar.

Thanks for the reply ;-)

What is SATA port for? I'm only using 1 hdd and 1 graphic card (no intention of upgrading or adding any hdd) so will the extra SATA benefit me? Also I noticed b85 has pci3 compared to h81 which has pci2 ...whats the difference? will it affect my performance?

basically SATA ports are used to connect HDD, ODD, SSD and the likes

I've give hald the answer, so please do a bit of googling for PCIe 3 vs PCIe 2

xeon might suit him better.

depend if you plan to do any upgrade in future I would say.

The major downside for h81 probably is less ram slots and pcie2.0. Going b85 hds improved on pcie2.0 but still two ram slots. Higher end b85 all have 4slots ram.

As for pcie2.0 vs 3.0, I will say it depend on whether you plan to upgrade your gpu in future. 2.0 having less bandwidth, but it isn't really a big/significant concern for low/mid end cards. Only if you plan to upgrade to some monster cards in future, then the 2.0 vs 3.0 might has a more significant effects.

This post has been edited by Human10: Jul 23 2014, 04:09 PM

Thanks for the effort bro.
Seems like even 3k also hard to go with i7 setup.

If 3.5k would be ok for 4770 + h80i right?

if online purchasing, try idealtech or dotatech (aka lingloong), they more femes in online sale.

go for xeon, i7 specs (0.1ghz slower than 4770) at i5 price (rm7xx)

Btw, 4790 out already.

In other words, we only suggest i7 when you opt for the unlocked version. If you opt for locked i7 might as well save some bucks and go with xeon.

This post has been edited by Human10: Jul 23 2014, 04:18 PM