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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V6!

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post Jun 25 2014, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Jun 25 2014, 02:35 PM)
dont worry. the AVF 500w is oem by same factory of CM PSU.
I tested with Radeon 7790 rigs before.
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Still doesn't guarantee long term reliability and safety anyhow.
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post Jun 25 2014, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 25 2014, 03:50 PM)
so by the price point it just not worth it right?.
now i understand why.  nod.gif

wonder why nvidia dont lower the price down.
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That's right. The current pricing for the GTX 690 is really unattractive at all. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 25 2014, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Jun 25 2014, 04:34 PM)
That's right. The current pricing for the GTX 690 is really unattractive at all. biggrin.gif
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thanks man for your time explaining it all to me notworthy.gif
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post Jun 25 2014, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(charkoteow3 @ Jun 25 2014, 04:13 PM)
Thank you Clem1982.

Do I really need a 650W PSU?
Was thinking about ditching out the HDD and grab another SSD.
Also, the BitFenix Colossus-M might be too tall for my liking, but are the provided fans quiet enough? A Cooler Master 130 Elite is a lot cheaper, might be able to throw in an air cooler for the cpu and a few 'quieter' fans.
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you can get away with a good 600W PSU but a little more headroom doesn't hurt actually... the 550W can power the rig but I'm not sure what plans you will have for your GPU.. and the Silverstone one is fully modular as well
You can grab another SSD, no problem if you do not require that much space
So far the Spectre fans are good, generally quiet,
Understand about the BitFenix chassis wink.gif
yup no doubt the Elite 130 is smaller but before you go and buy extra fans and a cooler... have you actually seen the space limitation? you can only have a single 120mm fan at the front and your air cooler would have to be a c-type... I'd go with an AIO WC unit to save space
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post Jun 25 2014, 06:38 PM

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Hi, my old dell from 2006 just had its motherboard die on me, now I wish to get a new desktop.

However, I wish to not spend too much on it yet.

I'm hoping to get a decent spec PC, though.. Err I'm not sure how much I can spend. So keep it RM1.3k for now?

I already have everything else, with a 23" Dell IPS display.

Can anyone recommend me? I already have a Samsung 160GB and WD Green 640GB so I intend to salvage those. ALSO salvaging my DVD burner along with the TP-link PCI wireless receiver for wifi.

I plan on upgrading it in future, step by step, so basic specs are okay, will still need an average graphic card for DOTA 2, though. Thanks!
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post Jun 25 2014, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 25 2014, 06:38 PM)
Hi, my old dell from 2006 just had its motherboard die on me, now I wish to get a new desktop.

However, I wish to not spend too much on it yet.

I'm hoping to get a decent spec PC, though.. Err I'm not sure how much I can spend. So keep it RM1.3k for now?

I already have everything else, with a 23" Dell IPS display.

Can anyone recommend me? I already have a Samsung 160GB and WD Green 640GB so I intend to salvage those. ALSO salvaging my DVD burner along with the TP-link PCI wireless receiver for wifi.

I plan on upgrading it in future, step by step, so basic specs are okay, will still need an average graphic card for DOTA 2, though. Thanks!
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CPU:Intel Core i3 4130 3.4GHz RM339
Mobo:Asrock B85M-Pro4 RM279
GPU:Palit GTX750 StormX OC 1GB GDDR5 RM420
Ram:Corsair Value RAM 4GB DDR3 1600MHz RM129
PSU:Antec VP-450P 80+ Bronze RM129
Casing:Gigabyte GZ Series RM69
Total:RM1365
GPU is from GBros@GS,the rest are from Viewnet. smile.gif
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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 25 2014, 04:55 PM)
thanks man for your time explaining it all to meĀ  notworthy.gif
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Once I saw a gtx 690 being sell for RM1.2K down at garage sales, that time I just bought a 770 doh.gif

This post has been edited by alfiejr: Jun 25 2014, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jun 25 2014, 08:15 PM)
CPU:Intel Core i3 4130 3.4GHz RM339
Mobo:Asrock B85M-Pro4 RM279
GPU:Palit GTX750 StormX OC 1GB GDDR5 RM420
Ram:Corsair Value RAM 4GB DDR3 1600MHz RM129
PSU:Antec VP-450P 80+ Bronze RM129
Casing:Gigabyte GZ Series RM69
Total:RM1365
GPU is from GBros@GS,the rest are from Viewnet. smile.gif
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Hi bro, thanks for the suggestion! My previous computer runs on Pentium D 3GHz, with GeForce 8600GT, 1.5GB DDR2 ram, stupid question but should the performance be a lot better with this rig? I shall google more on it but was wondering if you can share your opinion with me. smile.gif will the mobo be upgradable to better GPUs in the future? D they have the same slot? What about the processor? Could it one day be changed to a higher spec one? Thanks!!
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 25 2014, 08:55 PM)
Hi bro, thanks for the suggestion! My previous computer runs on Pentium D 3GHz, with GeForce 8600GT, 1.5GB DDR2 ram, stupid question but should the performance be a lot better with this rig? I shall google more on it but was wondering if you can share your opinion with me. smile.gif will the mobo be upgradable to better GPUs in the future? D they have the same slot? What about the processor? Could it one day be changed to a higher spec one? Thanks!!
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I'm pretty sure it runs better than your old PC. nod.gif

You don't need to upgrade the Mobo to get a better GPU. tongue.gif Let's say,if you wanna get GTX770..get a newer and better PSU. nod.gif

Yup,you can change the processor to an i5 or i7 or Intel Xeon,but the processor have to be compatible with the motherboard.
The i3 i suggested is of Haswell architecture,which uses socket 1150/LGA1150,which is what the motherboard(Asrock B85M-Pro4) supports. wink.gif
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post Jun 25 2014, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jun 25 2014, 09:01 PM)
I'm pretty sure it runs better than your old PC. nod.gif 

You don't need to upgrade the Mobo to get a better GPU. tongue.gif Let's say,if you wanna get GTX770..get a newer and better PSU. nod.gif

Yup,you can change the processor to an i5 or i7 or Intel Xeon,but the processor have to be compatible with the motherboard.
The i3 i suggested is of Haswell architecture,which uses socket 1150/LGA1150,which is what the motherboard(Asrock B85M-Pro4) supports. wink.gif
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and KuzumiTaiga, if u decide to upgrade with the new Haswell Refresh, for example i5 4460. dont forget to update your bios first. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jun 25 2014, 09:01 PM)
I'm pretty sure it runs better than your old PC. nod.gif 

You don't need to upgrade the Mobo to get a better GPU. tongue.gif Let's say,if you wanna get GTX770..get a newer and better PSU. nod.gif

Yup,you can change the processor to an i5 or i7 or Intel Xeon,but the processor have to be compatible with the motherboard.
The i3 i suggested is of Haswell architecture,which uses socket 1150/LGA1150,which is what the motherboard(Asrock B85M-Pro4) supports. wink.gif
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I see! So haswell should be compatible with processors released for the next couple of years, right? The psu you've recommended me, is it just enough for the 750? Is 750 the best it can support? Let's say if I were to choose on a slightly better one, say a 760, will it hold? Also I'm seeing discussions of comparisons between 750 TI with R9 270, which do you think is better? Thanks!

QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jun 25 2014, 10:51 PM)
and KuzumiTaiga, if u decide to upgrade with the new Haswell Refresh, for example i5 4460. dont forget to update your bios first.  nod.gif
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Thanks for the heads up! biggrin.gif
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post Jun 26 2014, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Jun 26 2014, 10:04 AM)
I see! So haswell should be compatible with processors released for the next couple of years, right?Ā  The psu you've recommended me, is it just enough for the 750? Is 750 the best it can support? Let's say if I were to choose on a slightly better one,Ā  say a 760, will it hold? Also I'm seeing discussions of comparisons between 750 TI with R9 270, which do you think is better?Ā  Thanks!
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Intel follows a "tick tock" product life cycle. The current Haswell processors are under the "Tock" cycle, meaning it's a completely new architecture and featuring new LGA 1150 socket.

The next refresh would be Broadwell under "Tick", while still remaining under the same socket. After that, Intel will come out with a new socket all together, and the cycle repeats itself again. So the board that you have should be able to support the upcoming Broadwell processors (I have no idea when this will be released though). More read here.
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I would suggest going with at least a good 500W PSU in order to have support for GTX 760 / R9 270. Definitely, R9 270 is faster than GTX 750 Ti. R9 270 is not in the chart below, but it is roughly faster than HD 7870 and slower than R9 270X. biggrin.gif
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This post has been edited by rav3n82: Jun 26 2014, 11:24 AM
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coolermaster (rs-550-pcarn1-uk) elite 550W can run gtx 760?
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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Jun 26 2014, 12:54 PM)
coolermaster (rs-550-pcarn1-uk) elite 550W can run gtx 760?
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can.
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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Jun 26 2014, 12:54 PM)
coolermaster (rs-550-pcarn1-uk) elite 550W can run gtx 760?
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can.
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is it a good psu to run high end card?
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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Jun 26 2014, 01:02 PM)
is it a good psu to run high end card?
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could get away with running a gtx 770, R9-280X not so much sweat.gif
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Jun 26 2014, 01:16 PM)
could get away with running a gtx 770, R9-280X not so much  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ Jun 25 2014, 05:10 PM)
you can get away with a good 600W PSU but a little more headroom doesn't hurt actually... the 550W can power the rig but I'm not sure what plans you will have for your GPU.. and the Silverstone one is fully modular as well
You can grab another SSD, no problem if you do not require that much space
So far the Spectre fans are good, generally quiet,
Understand about the BitFenix chassis wink.gif
yup no doubt the Elite 130 is smaller but before you go and buy extra fans and a cooler... have you actually seen the space limitation? you can only have a single 120mm fan at the front and your air cooler would have to be a c-type... I'd go with an AIO WC unit to save space
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I've checked and I think that the Noctua NH-L9i is going to be my best bet.
I'm going to stick with the CM130 casing but in any case of extra dolla dolla bills available, I'll think of getting a better case.
The CM-130 do seems like a vacuum cleaner after a while. The dusts accumulated at the front is just wow doh.gif

I really do want a 780Ti tho. Don't want to keep changing my gpu every year or two. The 780 Ti might just last a little longer(3-4 years maybe?). Or an R9 290?

This post has been edited by charkoteow3: Jun 26 2014, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(charkoteow3 @ Jun 26 2014, 05:16 PM)
I've checked and I think that the Noctua NH-L9i is going to be my best bet.
I'm going to stick with the CM130 casing but in any case of extra dolla dolla bills available, I'll think of getting a better case.
The CM-130 do seems like a vacuum cleaner after a while. The dusts accumulated at the front is just wow  doh.gif

I really do want a 780Ti tho. Don't want to keep changing my gpu every year or two. The 780 Ti might just last a little longer(3-4 years maybe?). Or an R9 290?
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780 Ti is obviously better than R9 290 which is the same tier with the 780.

so its better if you just go with 780 Ti.

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