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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Welcome Emre Can & Rickie Lambert

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post May 14 2014, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 14 2014, 10:35 AM)
If his money can fund Papa, then ok la
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Skrtel has done well for us this season bar his shirt-pulling and own goals.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 14 2014, 10:36 AM)
Skrtel has done well for us this season bar his shirt-pulling and own goals.
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LOL, don't you think ref now not zooming in his antics next season? it will be own goal + penalty of shirt pulling against us liao.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 14 2014, 10:33 AM)
Sell Skrtel?

I'd keep Skrtel.
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we all know which defender u'd love to sell bro. LOL!


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post May 14 2014, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 14 2014, 10:32 AM)
He just went home and wanna pencen in Spain, why u want to ask this old man come to BPL to get gang raped?
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Because no one want to gang rape old people? tongue.gif
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post May 14 2014, 10:41 AM

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BPL 2013-14 stats

1 This is the first Premier League season to feature two teams that scored over 100 goals (Manchester City on 102, Liverpool on 101). Chelsea (103) in 2009-10 are the only other Premier League team to have scored 100 in a single season.

2 Liverpool and Fulham were the only teams not to be involved in any 0-0 draws this season.

4 Martin Skrtel set a new Premier League record by scoring four own goals in a single season

8 Daniel Sturridge became the first Liverpool player to score in eight consecutive Premier League games.

10 Steven Gerrard ended the season with 10 goals from penalties.

10 Luis Suarez scored 10 times in December, becoming the first Premier League player to reach double figures in a single month.

12 Liverpool took 12 penalties, five more than any other team.

27 Liverpool hit the woodwork 27 times, more than any other side.

31 Luis Suarez (31) is the second player to reach 30 goals in a single Premier League season without scoring a penalty. Andy Cole managed it in the 1993-94 season, when he scored 34 goals.

89 Liverpool made fewer substitutions than any other team (89). Chelsea made the most (113).

999 Manchester United made 999 crosses this season, more than any other side. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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We "MUST" keep Victor Moses......

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QUOTE(yeelong @ May 14 2014, 10:38 AM)
LOL, don't you think ref now not zooming in his antics next season? it will be own goal + penalty of shirt pulling against us liao.
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Skrtel was vital to our defense... sad.gif

QUOTE(wadefak @ May 14 2014, 10:38 AM)
we all know which defender u'd love to sell bro. LOL!
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 14 2014, 08:32 AM)
How come we are not 'waiting 3 seasons' for Mr. Aspas to blossom into the next Suarez?

And I thought Lucas Leiva has passed the 3 seasons test so we must be making a huge mistake for letting him go
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Aspas will not get any game time, and seriously, he's not the same level as Suarez. He's even behind Moses in the line up. It will not be fair to keep him and he won't want to stay anyway. If we ended up 5th or so, I'd say we keep him and strengthen somewhere else, but since we are in CL and has some money to spend, why not.

I'm a big fan of Lucas. I'm not sure if he will leave but I would say after his injury, he's never the same OR he is not as effective in BR's strategies.
Also, in BR's line up, it seems like his anchor DM role is limited to 1 only and we have Stevie G in there. Wouldn't be fair to keep him either. His case would be similar to Kuyt for me really. Inherited from Rafa, change of style, change of play - someone has to go.

Will we have Suso and Ibe back next season? Hope BR can turn them around like how Sterling has as I believe they can play some big part in 14/15 especially we will have more games to play for.
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QUOTE(wadefak @ May 14 2014, 10:38 AM)
we all know which defender u'd love to sell bro. LOL!
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haha YES we do know laugh.gif

Well Masherano is on his last year contract. He is way better than Gerrard and Lucas IMO as a DM. We need sort of DM to stop play and tackle opponent when the opponent is counter attacking us. If we can get him cheap I would say go for him.

Other than that, 3rd striker is needed? Yes but is there any good option? We are not Man City that have that kind of money to pay our subs GBP100,00 just to sit on the bench hmm.gif




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Spend 60 million to get Alonso.. NOW!
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 14 2014, 10:45 AM)
Spend 60 million to get Alonso.. NOW!
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he just made a terrible pass back to keeper which end up in opponent player's leg and result in a 2nd goal against RM.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 14 2014, 10:46 AM)
he just made a terrible pass back to keeper which end up in opponent player's leg and result in a 2nd goal against RM.
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On purpose so RM would sell to us...tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 14 2014, 10:46 AM)
he just made a terrible pass back to keeper which end up in opponent player's leg and result in a 2nd goal against RM.
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dont care even if he shoots an own goal from the opposite side of the pitch. he will always be welcomed to come back to Anfield thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post May 14 2014, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 14 2014, 10:46 AM)
he just made a terrible pass back to keeper which end up in opponent player's leg and result in a 2nd goal against RM.
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55 million then. sad.gif
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QUOTE(whitesabre @ May 14 2014, 10:20 AM)
Yes we should reduce our wage level and use his wage properly on better players. We have Borini as our 4th striker, and with Suso getting better, we have 4th and 5th striker already. All we need now is a 3rd striker capable of challenging our top 2 strikers. Look at Man City with 3 world class strikers. We need that. For midfield, Lallana is good, but we don't really need Mascherano since we have Lucas and Gerrard too in the DM position. Left footed players are rare and we need a natural left back with left foot. Flano should go back RB. For Johnson, we should sell him now since we can still get a good figure out of him and then use it to further develop Flano and Wisdom. Kelly can be a good third choice.

What we need
1) A good goalie - heard we aiming Marshall from Cardiff
2) A top left back since Enrique hardly there
3) A good and commanding CB - sell Toure and Skrtel
4) A top left AM - Lallana is great, though I hope we get Reus since both feet as well. Good for tactical change.
5) A top striker as a third striker to challenge our top 2. We can't rely on them often.
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1) Agreed. I think it's likely we'll sell Reina so we'll need an experienced PL goalkeeper to give Mignolet stiff competition.
2) Also agreed. I think Enrique is injury-prone. Will need a decent cover since Cissokho is not really good enough and Flanno playing there is actually not his natural position. Might as well ship Johnson off if a decent offer comes in and place Flanno at RB and get a good LB.
3) Wisdom and Ilori would be coming back from loan spells and Kelly is still there. Add the other four CBs (Agger, Skrtel, Sakho, Toure) and there's a surplus in this area. I'd prefer to keep both Toure and Skrtel. They are proven and offer valuable experience for the backline. I'd rather offload Wisdom and/or Kelly and get a good RB to compete with Flanno and/or Johnson.
4) Definitely need somebody to offer competition to Coutinho and Sterling. If there's a very good player who could actually play both wings (with the work rate to match his attacking abilities) up for grabs for the right price, I wouldn't mind at all. Right now, Lallana seems suitable but anything above 25M is too expensive. Reus is a good option too but I doubt he'd leave Dortmund (or more like I doubt Dortmund would let him leave since Lewandowski is going to Bayern laugh.gif)
5) Borini will be back but he still has a point to prove in LFC colours. Aspas for me doesn't cut it. Needs to go in my opinion. Certainly need a backup to Sturridge and Suarez - a proven one at least. We can't afford to have another Aspas-like player in the squad.


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QUOTE(leftist @ May 14 2014, 09:02 AM)
coz aspas is not 20 years old he's 26..he should be in peak rite now not developing like lucas first season here
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Precisely. Bloke had a good pre-season but at 26 should be approaching the peak of his powers but judging from what must have been one of the worst corners I've seen in recent times against Chelsea, he's just not going to make the cut. He's also reiterated his desire to return to Spain to let's part ways amicably.

I do hope Glenn Johnson has a good World Cup because considering his age and defensive frailties, it makes sense for the club to unload him. A replacement may command a smaller salary. Lucas hasn't been able replicate his peak form since returning from injury. It could also be because our style of football requires all players to be at least decent passers of the ball and Lucas is more accustomed to recycling possession. If Rafa still wants to bring him to Napoli, it makes sense to him and the club to part ways. Surprised we're linked to Mascherano though because he's an average passer at best, has lost a yard of pace and has been playing centreback for awhile now.

I reckon we should break the bank for the likes of Arturo Vidal. In my opinion, we don't really need to commit ourselves to an out-and-out defensive midfielder. If you watch how the team players when Henderson and Allen are on the pitch at the same time, both players interchange positions frequently. When Henderson drops deep to help out defensively, Allen take up a more advanced positions and vice versa. The problem is whilst Allen is a tenacious player, he lacks the physical stature to win possession from opposition players. Unlike say Claude Makalele, he doesn't time his challenges as well to compensate for his lack of size and muscle. Vidal in contrast is an accomplished defensive midfield player who has since developed his offensive game and can operate on both halves of the field. An inclusion of a player like him will make us more solid defensively and sharper offensively at the same time. If we do also sign Lallana, we'll have a pretty solid midfield triangle with the Southampton man and the tip, supported by Vidal and Henderson.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 14 2014, 10:58 AM)
Precisely. Bloke had a good pre-season but at 26 should be approaching the peak of his powers but judging from what must have been one of the worst corners I've seen in recent times against Chelsea, he's just not going to make the cut. He's also reiterated his desire to return to Spain to let's part ways amicably.

I do hope Glenn Johnson has a good World Cup because considering his age and defensive frailties, it makes sense for the club to unload him. A replacement may command a smaller salary. Lucas hasn't been able replicate his peak form since returning from injury. It could also be because our style of football requires all players to be at least decent passers of the ball and Lucas is more accustomed to recycling possession. If Rafa still wants to bring him to Napoli, it makes sense to him and the club to part ways. Surprised we're linked to Mascherano though because he's an average passer at best, has lost a yard of pace and has been playing centreback for awhile now.

I reckon we should break the bank for the likes of Arturo Vidal. In my opinion, we don't really need to commit ourselves to an out-and-out defensive midfielder. If you watch how the team players when Henderson and Allen are on the pitch at the same time, both players interchange positions frequently. When Henderson drops deep to help out defensively, Allen take up a more advanced positions and vice versa. The problem is whilst Allen is a tenacious player, he lacks the physical stature to win possession from opposition players. Unlike say Claude Makalele, he doesn't time his challenges as well to compensate for his lack of size and muscle. Vidal in contrast is an accomplished defensive midfield player who has since developed his offensive game and can operate on both halves of the field. An inclusion of a player like him will make us more solid defensively and sharper offensively at the same time. If we do also sign Lallana, we'll have a pretty solid midfield triangle with the Southampton man and the tip, supported by Vidal and Henderson.
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Finally!!!! Finally someone has listened to my suggestion regarding Arturo Vidal but i think we have to at least offer more than 25 million for his service. Good bargaining power if we offer lesser than that.
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QUOTE(PPZ @ May 14 2014, 11:02 AM)
Finally!!!! Finally someone has listened to my suggestion regarding Arturo Vidal but i think we have to at least offer more than 25 million for his service. Good bargaining power if we offer lesser than that.
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Unless I'm mistaken, Rodgers has been given a war chest of $30 million nett and if we can recoup some funds from the sale of players, the figure goes up to $60 million. Competition for the player will be tough though with clubs like Man Utd willing to spend big to get back in the game. Their $27 million pound bid for Luke Shaw is proof of this. The Southampton left-back is only 18 and they are prepared to make him the highest paid teenager in domestic history with an offer said to be around $100,000 pounds per week over 5 years. Of course when you don't have Champions League football, you often need to spend a little more.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ May 14 2014, 11:57 AM)
1) Agreed. I think it's likely we'll sell Reina so we'll need an experienced PL goalkeeper to give Mignolet stiff competition.
2) Also agreed. I think Enrique is injury-prone. Will need a decent cover since Cissokho is not really good enough and Flanno playing there is actually not his natural position. Might as well ship Johnson off if a decent offer comes in and place Flanno at RB and get a good LB.
3) Wisdom and Ilori would be coming back from loan spells and Kelly is still there. Add the other four CBs (Agger, Skrtel, Sakho, Toure) and there's a surplus in this area. I'd prefer to keep both Toure and Skrtel. They are proven and offer valuable experience for the backline. I'd rather offload Wisdom and/or Kelly and get a good RB to compete with Flanno and/or Johnson.
4) Definitely need somebody to offer competition to Coutinho and Sterling. If there's a very good player who could actually play both wings (with the work rate to match his attacking abilities) up for grabs for the right price, I wouldn't mind at all. Right now, Lallana seems suitable but anything above 25M is too expensive. Reus is a good option too but I doubt he'd leave Dortmund (or more like I doubt Dortmund would let him leave since Lewandowski is going to Bayern laugh.gif)
5) Borini will be back but he still has a point to prove in LFC colours. Aspas for me doesn't cut it. Needs to go in my opinion. Certainly need a backup to Sturridge and Suarez - a proven one at least. We can't afford to have another Aspas-like player in the squad.
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Toure is kinda lousy imo. Every mistakes he made, he'll become demotivated immediately. Remember the mistakes he made earlier in the season? His form and concentration immediately faded. He looks like an old man sitting on the bench reading morning newspaper. We need players who can rebound immediately from their mistakes. As for Skrtel, he's good at scoring goals for both sides. It's dangerous when your defenders score as much own goals as his goals for the team. It's vry costly. I don't think we need Johnson with Flano emerging. Johnson is on a 100k a week and imagine how much talent we can use that for. Wisdom is 21 so he's still ok. Kelly is a decent backup considering his low weekly wages.

Offload Johnson after world cup for 10-15mil, Reina 10mil, Aspas 3mil, Toure 5-7mil, Skrtel 10mil = 38-45mil. Together with the 60mil warchest we have, should be around 100 mil.

Buy Marshall, heard around 6mil, Caulker 8mil, Lallana 20mil, Reus 25mil, another striker around 20mil. Here we go, 80mil only. Another 20 for maybe Mascherano (9m), and a LB around 11m. Wala good deal.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 14 2014, 12:10 PM)
Unless I'm mistaken, Rodgers has been given a war chest of $30 million nett and if we can recoup some funds from the sale of players, the figure goes up to $60 million. Competition for the player will be tough though with clubs like Man Utd willing to spend big to get back in the game. Their $27 million pound bid for Luke Shaw is proof of this. The Southampton left-back is only 18 and they are prepared to make him the highest paid teenager in domestic history with an offer said to be around $100,000 pounds per week over 5 years. Of course when you don't have Champions League football, you often need to spend a little more.
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I thought BR getting 60mil pounds warchest nett?

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