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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Welcome Emre Can & Rickie Lambert

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post May 14 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 14 2014, 03:39 PM)
I don't think can offload Johnson at 10~15 million considered his age
Same with Reina, don't think can more than 6~7 mil. As buying club will know, the player is a surplus, so buyer has upper hand, somemore Reina is not young anymore.

Somemore, Liv selling record mostly not getting good deal from offloading players, may be except one or two deal only.
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Johnson only 30, another 3 yrs to go if he goes to the lower clubs. As for Reina, he's only 32 and goalies have a history of long lifespan in football. See Van der Sar and Buffon? So why not 10mil. But someone said his release clause only 4.5mil...which means doomsday.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 14 2014, 04:43 PM)
It's all relative in the end. When Spurs signed Hugo Lloris for example, he was 25 and he was already established as France's no. 1 with his future still ahead of him. The fee was around $10 million with future benefits if he were to be sold to another club. Mignolet was a prized goalkeeper after being voted Player of the Season for Sunderland, producing several MOM performances and we signed him for $9 million. Reina isn't Spain's no. 1 and he's already 31, at the peak of his ability and thus, I reckon we'll be fortunate to receive an offer for $10 million.
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http://soccerlens.com/liverpool-player-edg...ld-exit/129252/ it says 5mil release clause. Seriously whoever set this clause is a noob. 5mil for a very good goalie. Seriously Liverpool...
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post May 14 2014, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(whitesabre @ May 14 2014, 03:41 PM)
@@ really only 4.5?? WTH he's such a good player back then, should be set to 10m. Kolo 5mil still realistic ba.
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The problem with setting such a high release clause is that :-

a) clubs may not bother to bid for him because there are several younger keepers with their futures still ahead of them that clubs can go for instead.
b) if clubs don't want to loan him, he'll add to our wage bill and affect our chances of signing players in other positions. Considering he isn't a dead cert to be no. 1, it doesn't sound feasible to keep him unless he's first choice.

Realistically, we should consider any offer above $6 million for him and look to add an experienced keeper for a reasonable fee to contest the no. 1 spot with him. Marshall would be a good catch if we can get a decent fee. Maarten Stekelenburg would come cheap and he has bags of experience at club and international level. He was Holland's no.1 at the 2010 World Cup and with Fulham having been relegated, the club will be looking to offload players especially ones they consider are on high wages. He's just as old as Reina.

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post May 14 2014, 04:23 PM

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Heard that Lallana may cost us up to 25m, and the WC hasn't even started yet. For that price, I say we better look around first. Reckon there would be 1-2 players with that price tag with better qualities that would be interested in playing with LFC. Younger too perhaps.

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"I don't want to put a figure on how many but I would rather have one or two absolute top players than seven that might not help us," said the Liverpool manager. "It's about the quality. We can't be going into the Champions League this year with doubts about players. We have to be going in knowing what the players' capacity to play is and their capabilities." - BR



Only 2? laugh.gif With the 60m warcrest and possibly more after selling some players, we can get at least 4-5?


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post May 14 2014, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ May 14 2014, 05:23 PM)
Heard that Lallana may cost us up to 25m, and the WC hasn't even started yet. For that price, I say we better look around first. Reckon there would be 1-2 players with that price tag with better qualities that would be interested in playing with LFC. Younger too perhaps.
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Actually this is somewhat true. Touch wood to say, what if he gets injured during WC...that would hit a huge hole into BR's plans. It's very risky when we invest too much on a single player. Fingers crossed that all our players come back as fit as a dragon.
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QUOTE(whitesabre @ May 14 2014, 03:48 PM)
Johnson only 30, another 3 yrs to go if he goes to the lower clubs. As for Reina, he's only 32 and goalies have a history of long lifespan in football. See Van der Sar and Buffon? So why not 10mil. But someone said his release clause only 4.5mil...which means doomsday.
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They can play, but I don't think anyone willing to pay more than 10 mil for a player that already 30 or more.
You need super duper negotiator to convince buying club to fork out such a money, by then I think every club also chasing after the negotiator. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(whitesabre @ May 14 2014, 04:25 PM)
Actually this is somewhat true. Touch wood to say, what if he gets injured during WC...that would hit a huge hole into BR's plans. It's very risky when we invest too much on a single player. Fingers crossed that all our players come back as fit as a dragon.
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But if the player does shine during WC, price tag surely ballooning.
So either way, there is risk.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 14 2014, 04:28 PM)
But if the player does shine during WC, price tag surely ballooning.
So either way, there is risk.
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I think now BR's transfer policy is to buy them early. Maybe before this world cup starts he will aquire some players already.
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With Lallana, the main question seems to be if he's worth the money?

Well we need to consider the amounts we shelled our for Henderson and Allen and why we paid top dollar for the duo? Allen hasn't lived up to his price tag but if Henderson has another season like the last, I'm sure we can all agree that he was worth it.

Now, back to Lallana. What does he have going for him?

1) He's an experienced player despite spending most of his career a rung below the Premiership. He has been a regular started for 6 seasons. He's captained the side since 2012 which suggests that he has leadership qualities. With Gerrard on the decline, we need a leader in midfield.
2) He's versatile, equally comfortable with both feet and can therefore play in a variety of positions.
3) He's creative and has created 68 chances this season, more than any other English player. Sadly, he's only had 6 assists but with better finishes, this figure would be higher.
4) The bloke can score. He constantly hits double figures in all competitions.

It will be a risk but given his all round attributes, perhaps less of a risk than Hendo and Allen. Clubs like Chelsea and Man City have shown that they are willing to spend on players which show promise and if he has a successful World Cup, they'll be willing to pay top dollar for him. Look at Shaun Wright Phillips, Scott Parker, Steve Sidwell and Jack Rodwell. The latter had scored much less goals than Lallana, was only 21 and Citeh paid between 12-15 million for him. I suppose it's a case of needed to strike when the iron is hot.
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QUOTE(Wonka @ May 14 2014, 05:30 PM)
I think now BR's transfer policy is to buy them early. Maybe before this world cup starts he will aquire some players already.
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scary if it means the likes of players like appas



sturridge & courting were acquired midseason if i remember. any stand outs from early signing last season?
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ May 14 2014, 05:06 PM)
scary if it means the likes of players like appas
sturridge & courting were acquired midseason if i remember. any stand outs from early signing last season?
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Sakho? Well BR did say he'd rather sign 2 world class players than 7 average ones. I think we can expect players from the region of 20-30m signing for us this season. I think the club is even more motivated after getting so close to the title and slipped.

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Leaked photo of new away kit. The players will wear it for friendly against Shamrock Rovers. Also, Borini is included in the squad to face Shamrock today. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


-Latest transfer rumors: Ben Davies (Swansea), Julian Brandt (Bayer Leverkusen)
Anyone watched Davies before? How is he compared to Shaw?

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post May 14 2014, 08:54 PM

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LFC squad for tonight:

Agger, Allen, Aspas, Borini, Brannagan, Coady, Coutinho, Dunn, Ibe, Jones, Kelly, Lussey, McLaughlin, Paez, Peterson, Lucas, Randall, Skrtel, Smith, Trickett Smith, Teixeira, Ward, Williams


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QUOTE(w_lun @ May 14 2014, 08:54 PM)
LFC squad for tonight:

Agger, Allen, Aspas, Borini, Brannagan, Coady, Coutinho, Dunn, Ibe, Jones, Kelly, Lussey, McLaughlin, Paez, Peterson, Lucas, Randall, Skrtel, Smith, Trickett Smith, Teixeira, Ward, Williams
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QUOTE(w_lun @ May 14 2014, 07:44 PM)
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Leaked photo of new away kit. The players will wear it for friendly against Shamrock Rovers. Also, Borini is included in the squad to face Shamrock today.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
-Latest transfer rumors: Ben Davies (Swansea), Julian Brandt (Bayer Leverkusen)
Anyone watched Davies before? How is he compared to Shaw?
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QUOTE(w_lun @ May 14 2014, 07:44 PM)
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Leaked photo of new away kit. The players will wear it for friendly against Shamrock Rovers. Also, Borini is included in the squad to face Shamrock today.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
-Latest transfer rumors: Ben Davies (Swansea), Julian Brandt (Bayer Leverkusen)
Anyone watched Davies before? How is he compared to Shaw?
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davies is more on polished robinson.. nowhere good as shaw in term of attacking.. better we give chance on robbo rather than 10m for this guy
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post May 14 2014, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(whitesabre @ May 14 2014, 03:48 PM)
Johnson only 30, another 3 yrs to go if he goes to the lower clubs. As for Reina, he's only 32 and goalies have a history of long lifespan in football. See Van der Sar and Buffon? So why not 10mil. But someone said his release clause only 4.5mil...which means doomsday.
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If i am not mistaken, Johnson only have 1 year contract left. I doubt we can even get more than 5 million from him.

I will be very very very happy if someone is willing to offer him 5 million
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QUOTE(w_lun @ May 14 2014, 07:44 PM)
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Leaked photo of new away kit. The players will wear it for friendly against Shamrock Rovers. Also, Borini is included in the squad to face Shamrock today.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
-Latest transfer rumors: Ben Davies (Swansea), Julian Brandt (Bayer Leverkusen)
Anyone watched Davies before? How is he compared to Shaw?
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post May 14 2014, 11:23 PM

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Looking at our squad, we definitely have the required experience to play in the CL...i mean most of the 1st eleven are players during Rafa's time, Lucas, SG, Skrtle, Agger, Johnson - SSS is good enuf for any team in CL....so it does make sense for BR to say he only need 2-3 world class players to enhance the squad. Is Borini good enough for back-up, only time will tell, I have a feeling BR might off load if the price is right...

As for transfer budget, i think BR should afford more than 60million...bearing in mind, CL already worth potentially 30 million + increased in TV monies + carry forward budget from missing Mikthryan, Willian and Salah....granted we not going to get all 3 of them, not to mention commercial deals and being 2nd in the league....again the last thing i want is to harp on our potential big transfer kitty...we afterall is not in the rich list...having said this, i'd still go for Konoplyanka, as i like what i have seen from him....he is afterall a left sided attacker, which we genuinely lack...perhaps the fullback need a bit touch up, and also a top top replacement in the midfield, and the last thing we need is another 40 million Ozil-type signing...
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Looks like the previous leak got it spot on.
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