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 Monk Discussion V7, RoS:The perfection of Seven Sided Strike

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DarkNite
post Jun 15 2014, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Jun 14 2014, 11:54 AM)
Yes... I tested this set combo.
With my setup, i can clear everything easily up to T4.
However, i can't do well in T5 due to low toughness and no elite dmg reduction gear.

I use cindercoat, law of seph spirits stone, sunwuko glove, shoulder n ammy, inna daibo n belt, rorg n 1 rare ring, captain crimson boot n pant, reaper bracer. Total cdr 46%.

skills blinding flash, air ally, epiphany, WoL explosive light, inner sanctuary, serenity.
passive exalted soul, guardian path, beacon of ytar, OWE.

With this setup, I hv about 700k dps, and i can drop primary attack and perma WoL.
When blinding flash 29% + Inner sanctuary 30%, I saw WoL crit 24m+.

Quite fun too. Pls try it, maybe u can have better result biggrin.gif
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how many % holy?

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 13 2014, 05:58 PM)
btw are you sure 100fist got highest proc rate?
http://www.d3maxstats.com/?p=procrates&class=monk
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d3maxstats?
This is 2.0.5 or 2.0.6 version?

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post Jun 15 2014, 06:33 PM

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Deng.. Finish my 1k set.. But the pin ball play style..... =_=
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post Jun 15 2014, 07:24 PM

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i need a glove or boot for 1k to work. damn no drop.
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yes pin ball style unlike it, that is not monk style ..


http://www.diablofans.com/news/48103-dev-s...nk-pure-dashing
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post Jun 16 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 15 2014, 09:25 AM)

d3maxstats?
This is 2.0.5 or 2.0.6 version?
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at bottom:
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All stats are based on Diablo 3 Reaper of Souls Patch 2.0.5


not sure if latest ver got coeff changes?
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post Jun 16 2014, 11:14 AM

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i'm always referring to this thread to check skill proc co-efficiency:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/11914351645

not sure how true it is, but you guys can check from there and see.

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post Jun 16 2014, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jun 15 2014, 07:43 PM)
yes pin ball style unlike it, that is not monk style ..
http://www.diablofans.com/news/48103-dev-s...nk-pure-dashing
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Pinball style is fine.
But I'm having problem with the shaking screen. laugh.gif

By the way, I thought Invis quit. hmm.gif
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post Jun 16 2014, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 16 2014, 11:14 AM)
Pinball style is fine.
But I'm having problem with the shaking screen.  laugh.gif

By the way, I thought Invis quit.  hmm.gif
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left, right, left, right, left, right, gives me headache! rclxub.gif
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post Jun 16 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 16 2014, 11:42 AM)
left, right, left, right, left, right, gives me headache! rclxub.gif
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It's just like WW barb, WW from A to Z. laugh.gif

Time to hunt for Jawbreaker!!


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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 16 2014, 11:46 AM)
It's just like WW barb, WW from A to Z.  laugh.gif

Time to hunt for Jawbreaker!!
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WW barb is smoother but monk's pinball action is jerky and fast!

Wonder if it helps to have 32" or bigger monitor or worse laugh.gif


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post Jun 16 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 16 2014, 12:14 PM)
Pinball style is fine.
But I'm having problem with the shaking screen.  laugh.gif

By the way, I thought Invis quit.  hmm.gif
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yes.. that why left and right often u will lost target to dash...maybe other players have fun...

invis he hiding trainning ...lol
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Guys. With the incoming change of OWE .. what is the best element to stack ?

Some say divide all second resist equally
SOme say fire
Some say physical

WhAt you guys say?


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QUOTE(KruteX @ Jun 18 2014, 12:51 PM)
Guys. With the incoming change of OWE .. what is the best element to stack ?

Some say divide all second resist equally
SOme say fire
Some say physical

WhAt you guys say?
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6 all res and 5 different secondary res

Minimum AR 6 x 90 = 540AR.

Min secondary Res bonus = 140 x 30% =42 each x 5 = 220 AR

Assuming 5 gears all give 140 secondary res = 140 all res

Total min AR = 900

Plus Paragon AR 250

Total min AR = 1150 AR

I believe should be enough lo



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post Jun 18 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 18 2014, 01:05 PM)
6 all res and 5 different secondary res

Minimum AR 6 x 90 = 540AR.

Min secondary Res bonus = 140 x 30% =42 each x 5 = 220 AR

Assuming 5 gears all give 140 secondary res = 140 all res

Total min AR = 900

Plus Paragon AR 250

Total min AR = 1150 AR

I believe should be enough lo
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so if no AR we are screw? hmm.gif
secondary res must all different?
BTW
are these the different types of resist?

Secondary resistance stats:
1. Lightening
2. Arcane
3. Fire
4. Physical
5. Cold
6. Poison

7. ALL RESIST << usually is in the primary stats as far as I know.

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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13182188100?page=3#43

Or, for the lazy, here --
Conclusions (for those who do not care about the math)
1. My monk will gain about 30% mitigation against all resists and about 50% mitigation against poison (the element I am currently stacking).
I will also gain a passive slot by dropping STI.

2. A theoretically perfect OWE monk without ANY rerolls will gain about 42% mitigation in their single-resist but lose about 20% mitigation against all other resists.

3. A theoretically perfect OWE monk that rerolls to a theoretically perfect new Harmony monk will see a net change of ~0% mitigation.

tl;dr -- Net-0 change for a max-monk and slight buff for people with mixed-resist gear. Not the mitigation increase we were looking for.
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 18 2014, 01:05 PM)
6 all res and 5 different secondary res

Minimum AR 6 x 90 = 540AR.

Min secondary Res bonus = 140 x 30% =42 each x 5 = 220 AR

Assuming 5 gears all give 140 secondary res = 140 all res

Total min AR = 900

Plus Paragon AR 250

Total min AR = 1150 AR

I believe should be enough lo
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ya.. also, dont forget that you can always slot in few diamonds to boost AR.

my earlier hope on OWE modification is every single resistant will be converted into AR regardless on what elements it is! too ambitious i know.. laugh.gif

i had switched my lighting resist monk to physical resist recently. this is damn hard and pain because every pcs of gears need to re-farm / re-craft / enchant to the same resistant type.
with the upcoming changes, no worry if we found some useful gear with different resistant, it still can be stacked into AR, so not that bad still. but i think the percentages should be adjusted to higher number like 50% or something.
in long run, we should have flexibility in swapping gears without worry on the resistant type.

For the other change, dex = armor.
it shown that bliz is trying to use the most simple way to resolve the dex class dmg mitigation issue.
imo, the str = armor or int = AR should remain to str and int class only.
and yes, dodge is utterly useless.
However, i found another stat which is quite comparative also - "melee/range/elites attack dmg reduction". wonder why they dont bother to consider it?

example, they can replace dodge and focus dex class in dmg reduction stat.
most dex class have 8,000-10,000 dex number.
they can do something like 0.2% of total dex converted to melee, range & elites dmg reduction. so, monk & DH will have like 16% - 20%.
and i believe other monk's skills highlighted by cow can slowly tune into dmg reduction as well, like DS 29% dodge become 29% dmg reduction; 42.5% crit chc add into dmg reduction and etc..
this is still not that bad imo and every class will still maintain their uniqueness in dmg mitigation. biggrin.gif

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post Jun 18 2014, 06:49 PM

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Monk have to sacrifice a PRIMARY stat for AR?
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post Jun 18 2014, 11:40 PM

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they should also buff the damn Inna set bonus.

All Mantras + at least 1 rune from each Mantra
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post Jun 19 2014, 11:18 AM

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how about just make us dodge those undodgable like arcane or poison stuff?

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jun 19 2014, 11:18 AM)
how about just make us dodge those undodgable like arcane or poison stuff?
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that would make Monk as powerful as Superman... bliz don't like that... laugh.gif

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