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 Monk Discussion V7, RoS:The perfection of Seven Sided Strike

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gladfly
post Apr 21 2014, 12:26 PM

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Kilat monk reporting in 1st page..

Kekekeke...good job goblin. Thanks for ss7
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post Apr 21 2014, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Apr 21 2014, 12:59 PM)
Inspired by Fe3doe build, I tested full BlackThorn set in T6.

1. Royal Ring (Reduced requirement by 1)
2. 3 of the BlackThorn set (immune to many ground effect)
3. Countess Julia's Cameo (Immune to Arcane)

Bonus:
4. 2 of the Aughild's set (reduce 15% damage by Elite and increase 15% dmg to Elite)
5. 2 of Cain's set (50% magic find... well i really want the 2 set bonus 8% IAS)

DPS: 881k
Toughness: 15mil

Available in 720p:



Analysis: Farming mat still okay, but with my limited DPS, don't think it's very effective. Take more than 1 minute to kill an Elite. Firechain can still kill me if I am not careful.  sweat.gif
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Hehehe..T6 capable monk la ni..

If you wanna tank harder then get occulus ring (sic) le..-16% Elite damage. The u major tanker liao

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post Apr 23 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Apr 22 2014, 02:12 PM)
Ligntning: WKL
Stun: Sledge fist
Fire: Demon Claw
EP: Az'Turrasq
Holy: Crystal Fist
DS: Jawbreaker
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Got extra effect meh Demon Claw..+fire skillz damage ka?

Otherwise its useless le..


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post Apr 24 2014, 03:14 PM

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Dear Lightning monk..

what is the best combo for lightning monk in respect of weapon:

1. TF + OS?

2. TF + SoH?

3. OS + WKL?

4. WKL + Fulminator?

5. Fulminator + OS?

So pening see so many lightning weapons to chose from? TF seems the best due the lightning procs..but those procs are not boosted by % lightning damage, where as OS and Fulminator gets the boosted % Lightning damage. Don't know on SoH as I tarak loot yet.

Perhaps Blizz ill be kind enough to let me loot so I can test it out? doh.gif



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post Apr 24 2014, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Apr 24 2014, 04:11 PM)
i  find out one things.example:  if whole gear stick to one element skill lightning%dmg combo with the skills , yes deal dmg of element lightning ofcos higher ,but i dont think so will keep the element n skills belong .

like mine all gear cant stick to one of element% skill dmg n weapon too ,the best way i hav a best choice go for physical skill deal% dmg, so i can use  any skills deal high dmg too ,example ,any primary skills,any focus skills or technique skills also count by physical skills% deal dmg...so i can use different skills for everyday bring up monk more fun .....
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Eeerrrr..bro I think we not in same page.

the + element skillz will not boost the + 1000 - 1400 element damage of the weapon. For example..say a WKL..

A WKL will roll + 1.2k - 1.4k lightning damage and also roll +15%-25% Lightning Skillz. Say you hit jackpot..get 25%, the 25% will NOT go to the + 1.2k - 1.4k lightning damage at all.

the 25% will go towards the lightning skills that you use. Say we use SW-Cyclone which is a lightning skill. Each cyclone deals 23% weapon damage. What the WKL will add is 25% to that, i.e 1.25 x 23% =28.75% liao lo.

Same goes with all lighning skillz, like FoT, Lashing Tail Kick - Scorpion Sting. The staking of this elemental damage is powerful because its multiplicative effect.

Hence if you have like 100% Ligtning skillz, using the example above, your SW-cyclone will deal 46% damage, which is mehhhh..but for LTK-SS, its a huge buff from 643% ---> 1,286%...hence massive crits.

That is why fire monks can crit up to 40-50M using fire LTK because they can virtually stack the + fire skillz to 150 easily.
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post Apr 24 2014, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Apr 24 2014, 06:30 PM)
bro, i hv wkl, tf and fulminator.
base on my observation, fulminator is not as good as wkl & tf, because the lighting dmg seem only hitting the surrounding mobs, not the main target. it is still viable if fighting large group of mobs but in the situation like 1v1 boss, fulminator seem useless whereby tf can still proc the lighting chain.
i dont hv OS so i doesn't know how the lighting chain work. need monk's TS to comment on this. laugh.gif
my weapon of choice is SoH + TF/WKL  thumbup.gif

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Lol, you better go....

OK correction, apparently Oydnn Son doesn't get the + lightning boost also..hmmm but I tried it (had I dropped but after trying brimmed chor cause didn't roll dex...came 20% lightning ooo was contemplating keeping it but last last FS!!)...the chain lighning procs hard wei.... can get Millions in crits but....the damn weapons is just slow..really slow

Oh well..we see la if Bliz kind enough gip me a SoH so I no need pening ..kekeke

This post has been edited by gladfly: Apr 24 2014, 06:50 PM
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post Apr 25 2014, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Apr 25 2014, 10:44 AM)
No TF last night sad.gif
But I got Gladfly an Odyn Son  brows.gif
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36% proc chance Oydn Son..


Manyak kuat lor
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post Apr 25 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Apr 25 2014, 11:17 AM)
Dear all monk guru's,

I came on late to RoS, just hit 70 yesterday. Got couple legendary but Torment 1 oso damn painful, can survive but it takes forever to kill anything.

So I suppose I need to farm lower difficulty first. Google say best way to gear up is to spam Bounty on Normal difficulty for Horadric Cache -- is this correct?

Also, what kind of paper doll figures am I looking to target before Torment 1 should be doable? 300k dps 5mil toughness?
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Yes...


Farm normal for cache as sooner or later you will need a Ring of Royal Grandeur.

For T1, 5M toughness is comfortable and 500k DPS will be ideal. 300k DPS will be slightly low and not too efficient.
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post Apr 29 2014, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(poyol @ Apr 29 2014, 03:44 PM)
frustrating...

can't find leg weapon to boost my damage.. still stuck at 600k region...

Toughness however can swap between 16mil - 22mil...
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Its difficult to gain DPS without sacrificing toughness.16-22m is a lot..!!

The trick is to use less AR /Armor or vit..by swapping Elite damage reduction is viable in high T.

Hence Aughild set + Occulus Ring will be is very good in High T
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post Apr 29 2014, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(olman @ Apr 29 2014, 10:15 PM)
All elemental builds are handicapped compared to fire

not fair as fire gets cindercoat n magefist
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Cindercoats fire skills resource is the game changer...

Nothing can math that..
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post Apr 29 2014, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Apr 29 2014, 09:46 PM)
I tried Lightning monk before:

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=67461277

And I tried it again after I get the Eye of the Storm (30% Lightning damage) but I still don't really like it (cause FoT really bad). Just the way I play. I've seen some successful Lightning Monk too, including gladly, StriderJack and qicquser.

Basic skill including:

1. FoT (Some monk chose Deadly Reach)
2. Lashing Tail Kick - Scorpion Sting
3. Sweeping Wind - Cyclone
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Hey..I am just a noob ok..

Anyway.. once a cookie cutter always a cookie cutter.. smile.gif

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As cow has eloquently mentioned, the basic build for lightning monk is based on stacking + lighting skills damage. (in my opinion ....80% would be ideal more better)

LTK -SS is for spirit dump

Fot - any rune or DR-Scattered blows as primary generator. (unlike fire monks we cant go generator less and just go on Epi + Cooldown reduction).

I use CS- Eye of Storm (lightning) for some crowd control.

Epi / Inner sanctuary for more dps



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post Apr 30 2014, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(poyol @ Apr 30 2014, 12:20 PM)
any monk with full inna set?

curious to know what's it like to have all mantras active
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BSL aka dreaming run with full Inna

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post May 1 2014, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ May 1 2014, 12:48 AM)
if not mistaken, only the 3rd hit is lightning, so only the 3rd hit benefit from additional lighting damage.
sad but true...
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Cant argue wth cow's logic..

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post May 6 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ May 6 2014, 10:04 AM)
it is drop from act 1 horadric cache.
keep doing act1 bounty, collect like 10-15 caches and then open all together.
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psssss

boss u forgot to say ..open in T6 smile.gif

That day also teropen in T6 3 cache after farming Aughild mats, 1 rorg dropped
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post May 7 2014, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ May 7 2014, 10:33 AM)
Party with the holy cowithgun last night T6, my lvl40 cru die nonstop. but he manage to get me to 60 in 1h thumbup.gif
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Dear OP

Crusader thread is ---------> way.. oh waii..

You also Crusader OP.. tongue.gif
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post May 7 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(faheem @ May 7 2014, 03:53 PM)
fedeo lving my new crus 1-60 abouth 30m only biggrin.gif
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Apa trick buat same old t6 keeps 1-3 with cains + HR + Leorics?

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post May 7 2014, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ May 7 2014, 05:06 PM)
i just simple write and short cut words in the thread only,no need blame a person language or grammar,please behave your attitude.
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Not trying to offend you but..

Well...the purpose of writing is communication... if your target segment who reads the sentence cant comprehend the sentence, pretty obvious something is wrong.

Take it as a constructive criticism...bro.
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post May 8 2014, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ May 8 2014, 12:37 AM)
Interesti g, once summoned how long do the clones stay with u?
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no need sledge fist bro..

Just use LTK- scorpion sting - almost perma stun can liao
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post May 9 2014, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(AdamNg @ May 9 2014, 10:07 PM)
Immune to freeze & immobilize...

No more frozen (elite with frozen)...nothing can freeze me now... rclxm9.gif

Immobilize....the spider net, the bongo trap....nothing...just run thru it...  rclxm9.gif

The Blackthorne'set - just stand on plague, molten etc...feel nothing.. icon_rolleyes.gif

The only thing I cannot stand....Arcane Sentry... icon_question.gif

I don't think there is any gear/item that immune to arcane sentry.
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Got..

Cameo ammy..
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post May 13 2014, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ May 13 2014, 08:29 PM)
the way i see it... Lightning should now be the King in term of damage!

1. Hands of Lightning : Increase the number of hits in the second strike from 7 to 10 and increasing damage to 429% weapon damage as Lightning. (Damage was Physical)

2. Pillar of the Ancients : Summon an ancient pillar that deals 635% weapon damage as Lightning, followed by 785% weapon damage as Lightning over 3 seconds to enemies who remain in the area. (Damage up from 498%, damage was Physical. Additional damage up from 498%. Damage is now over 3 seconds, instead of after 2 seconds)

Pillar of the Ancients is now the biggest Spirit Spender and by far has biggest boost and is now lighting.

I will test my 6-set Raiment of Thousand set after patch. I got 5 out of the 6 gears now. smile.gif

Monk has hope!
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FoT still sucks balls..

Oh well..time to take out FoT related stuff..

Rainment 4 set for the 15% ....

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