CHRIST-HIS PERSON

IN THE GODHEAD - The Complete God

Who is Christ in the Godhead, and what is He in the Godhead? First, in the Godhead our Christ is the complete God. For Christ to be the complete God means that He is the Triune God—the Father, the Son, and the Spirit. Those who argue with this and say that Christ is only the Son are mistaken. On the one hand, the New Testament reveals that Christ is the Son; on the other hand, the New Testament reveals that Christ is God, even the complete God. We should not say that Christ is only partially God. On the contrary, He is the entire God, the whole God, the Triune God.

Regarding Christ being the complete God, John 1:1 says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” In the beginning, that is, from eternity past, the Word was God. It is not, as supposed by some, that Christ was not God from eternity past and that at a certain time Christ became God. Christ’s deity is eternal and absolute. From eternity past to eternity future, He is God. This is the reason that in the Gospel of John there is no genealogy regarding Him as in Matthew 1 and Luke 3. In this Gospel Christ is “without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life” (Heb. 7:3). Our Christ was God from the beginning, from eternity.

John 1:1 declares that the Word, Christ, is God. This God, whom the Word is, is not a partial God, not only God the Son, but the entire God—God the Son, God the Father, and God the Spirit. The New Testament does not say that the Word was God the Son. Rather, the New Testament says that in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was the entire God. As the Word who is the complete God, Christ is the Triune God, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit.

In Romans 9:5 Paul speaks of “Christ, who is over all, God blessed forever.” When Paul came to this point in his writing, he was so filled with the glorious person of Christ that he poured out what was in his heart and declared that Christ is over all, God blessed forever. We need to be deeply impressed with the fact that our Lord Jesus Christ is the very God who is over all and blessed forever. He is the infinite God. Concerning Him, Isaiah 9:6 says, “Unto us a child is born...his name shall be called...The mighty God.” We praise Christ for His deity, and we worship Him as God, the complete God, blessed forever.

Hebrews 1:8 also indicates that Christ is God: “But as to the Son, Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, and the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom.” Because Christ the Son is God Himself, He is addressed in this verse as the very God. Hebrews 1:8 clearly reveals that the Son is God Himself.

I think you need to be clear (first) of your understanding of definitions of words. Look, I'm not twisting you.
The closer definition of Salvation is Deliverance. The wider Definition are; welfare, prosperity, deliverance, preservation, salvation, safety. Not Selection.
Check the Secular dictionary and Check theological Dictionary. They'll tell you the same thing. I know you're trying to say they can't be selected by God and yet is not saved.

In the Old Testament, It's possible to be Selected by God to do his work and yet not have his Spirit upon the person. King Cyrus of Persia is one such person.
Go and check Him out in the Bible if you don't believe me.

Thirdly you need to clearly understand under the Old Testament, nobody could be saved through the Law.
Those who trusted in their own works, emotions are still under the power of the bondage of Sin. (Galatians 3:22).
You cannot lump being selected by God for leadership as the same meaning as being Saved under the context of the Old Testament.
Many of the saint were saved by looking forward towards an unknown messiah but that's another matter altogether.

Ask your Pastor if you don't believe me.

Fourth I can prove to you with scripture that God can even love those who are corrupted in heart (sinners) but the problem is you ignore it. How la?

Romans 5:8 - But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
2 Corinthians 5:19 - that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.
Romans 4:5 - However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

But does that mean that God encourages sinners to continue to sin? No. It takes the power of God to change a person. You need to draw the person to God first before change can happen no matter how corrupt the person is, God's power is greater and is able to change.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Aug 26 2014, 10:31 AM

me too me too !! 017-3497139

i wish i could help and understand more but i am using mandarin bible haha ...

btw i am gonna share about isil this saturday during youth ... already research for some news and pictures but i need more info regarding this issue .... see anyone of you could help me provide me some links here !! (not spoon feeding la but you all here seems so pro, i also did my research before asking for help )

thanks. but sonido didn't provide me his contact. it's okay. i think we can still come out to chat and discuss and share. I pm and whatsapp you my number.

Could you elaborate on that statement?

Nobody could be saved under the old covenant. (BTW there is NO old testament. Testament is word used by bible commentators/compilers to relate to writings and not particularly the old covenant)

Are you saving nobody is saved in that period?

Sigh .... ... and I don't want to butt in ...

I guess we have to be a bit careful with the terminology .....

The old covenant we often speak of denotes not only the old covenant under the law; sometimes it also denotes the entire age of the Old Testament.

We have to make that distinction when we speak

I'll explain tomorrow, want to zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Oh my god i just read 1 articles regarding the angel reproduce with human being and its all in genesis 6 1-4 ... I am so tired but scare i forgot to ask ! What is that ??? In case if u can read mandarin here is the link
http://www.gotquestions.org/T-Chinese/T-Ch...e-Nephilim.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/Nephilim.html

You mean this?

http://www.gotquestions.org/Anakim.html

This would be the english version of the article

This post has been edited by Sophiera: Aug 26 2014, 02:31 AM

Is Nephilim so interesting?

Thank you for reminding me. My over sight, edited my post.
This is one area I always forgot that the saints are saved the same way.

Mix breed humans.
Half human, half fallen angels.

Nephilim.


Though not mentioned in the Bible
I believe It's possible that's how the story of pagan gods like
Zeus, Thor, came into existence.

ya ya ya

never thought angel and have xxx with human and give birth to half breed human ...

that one is during Noah's time where god have not wipe the world .... so now still got this kind of things ?

Yeah, there are a least four steps of man's fall.

In Genesis, man fell step after step and level after level. In each fall man descended a step lower than the previous fall, falling lower and lower until he reached a point from which he could not fall any further.

In the first fall, Satan seduced man to partake of something other than God.

In the second fall, Satan, who was in man's nature, distracted man from God's way of salvation.

In the third fall, Satan caused the evil spirits, that is, the fallen angels, to mingle with man and to join with man through illegal marriage.

... Terrible isn't it

bible really amazed me ... have been reading for quite some time but this is new and interesting to me hohoho

No more. That's why God send the flood.
to wipe out the Nephillim.