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 Bf left girl after girl kena piap by stranger, In a club

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dewill
post Apr 16 2014, 11:49 PM

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she too wild for him, he cant able to give security to her.
better part the way. let her go free back into clubbing
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post Apr 17 2014, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Apr 16 2014, 10:57 PM)
There are also many times people try to be smart and argue around conventional wisdom.

Im not drunk i can still drive
Im able to control drug usage
I dont have to take care of my health etc

Theres a fine line at trying to be special / trolling and a genius. You could be either.

What im saying is since donkey years no man want their partner to be a public toilet. If you still think otherwise you might be the few that say the earth was round when it was flat. Kudos to you.
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You caught me trolling there, teeheehee.

Regardless, point being that in this age, there's no implicit agreement on how both sexes should act in a relationship and also marriages. Most women want to be empowered and enjoyed their freedom in being a town bike and hence should be encouraged to do so, and see both sexes are in serial monogamy most of the time, I just don't see the benefits of teaching how a woman should act in her adult years, that's her parents responsibility.

Like it or not, most females fumbled throughout their twenties not knowing what they should do in a relationship, and even if her partner tried to restraint her, it will be looked upon as an oppression, and women wants to get to do whatever she wants(which is fun), and there's nothing a man can do to stop her. The man will be looked like an a$$hole in TS case in whatever he does, and at the end of the day nothing he does will benefit him should she hates him for restricting her freedom, and all his teaching will only benefit other man that marries her(should she decides to turn another leaf for another man by being an enlightened virgin), which most white knight will do.

I don't see the point in teaching women in how to be adult, especially in cases whereby the end result doesn't benefit me. Since women want to have fun fun fun, might as well enjoy the fun, then find other women that can be adult should the man wants a marriage. Let those women that wanna have fun be the headache of other white knights that marries her.

If the girl doesn't treat the relationship seriously, why should the man treat her serious? Go find other girls for fun fun fun la, since there are many of them around anyway.
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post Apr 17 2014, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(RUI @ Apr 16 2014, 07:44 PM)
Still falls back to if its a consented intercourse. The condition she was found; I'm disinclined to believe it is.

Of course it's equally difficult to jail a man even that "innocent" men semen was found in the victim vagina.

Since those question left unanswered, It's a judgement no worse than yours.  laugh.gif

If its a hypothetical story, then we should take it with a LOL. Anyway, my stand on equating wanting party equates rape are only from mentally challenged stays. Just like those who pass statement like "those who dress sexily deserves to be raped" or "which cat don't eat fish" or "non bumiputera are more acceptable to rape" or those along the lines. They are retards IMO.
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Right... your opinions are better than others, the others who disagrees with you are retards, and you're a genius, even though your base your opinions on worse foundations and logic. But hey, no worries, your opinions are better, because god forbid, who knows how badly your world will turn upside down if there isn't a woman who is a victim for you.
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post Apr 17 2014, 12:59 AM

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He's right. Wild GF ain't worth keeping.
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post Apr 17 2014, 01:38 AM

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It could be a drug rape.if so, it was an accident.not something the gal want/expect

But what to do next is up to the guy.if u ask me, I also not sure what to do
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post Apr 17 2014, 01:45 AM

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BF is right for being angry. But break up...ermmm...nope...I'll just bring her for check up and see if it was OD of alcohol or got spiked. Take samples of body fluid....then hunt them guys down.

Why? She didn't ask to get raped. Worse thing I'll do is just have my cold war with her and tell her to know what was her mistake and why I am angry. But not ditching her, cuz, I am not perfect, nobody is. So who am I to judge?
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post Apr 17 2014, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 16 2014, 11:46 PM)
He never went in to look for her? Call up her friends and family to find out her location? Either the BF is a retard, or the whole story is dubious.
Finish partying at 4am+ means the BF was in the vicinity, how come he didn't go in to find for her or her friends? Hence making this story sound really fake.

Now assuming the story is true, we cannot even determine this is rape. There are a few points which make it very suspicious.

1) Her friends didn't notice she was missing for a period of time?
2) Her friends didn't notice if guys were hitting on her?
3) Raped by multiple men in the toilet and no one in the club noticed?
4) Found her messed up and unconscious and they don't bother to call the BF?
5) Doctor can determine there were "several" men? How? DNA testing is the only known way to prove multiple perpetrators and it definitely takes longer than 8 hours to get results, often takes weeks depending on the DNA lab's workload.

In the end though, the guy's decision to break up with her is right. In the worst case scenario, she was really raped and she got into that situation because of her horrible friends and her own inability to take care of herself. In the best case scenario, she f`cked around and is using rape as an "excuse" for her behavior hoping the BF forgives her.

In either case, she and her friends are toxic. Best to leave such people out of your life.
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3) Loophole in stories, loud sound drowning out uhuh sound? Several people marching into toilet without attracting attention?
1) 2) & 4) Not a bunch of great friends, aren't they?
5) Hymen tearing but it is not a great indicator of multiple perpetrators/partners.

Logical enough. It could be herself wanting multiple partners or just unlucky to be gang-banged.

QUOTE(jasonlim @ Apr 17 2014, 01:38 AM)
It could be a drug rape.if so, it was an accident.not something the gal want/expect

But what to do next is up to the guy.if u ask me, I also not sure what to do
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It means that her friends aren't really friends at all. It is not an accident if the BF warned her yet she ignore it.


Using rape as excuse - being sly and being a slut.

Date rape drug - her inability to take care of herself by disobeying good advice from BF & lack of sense to take the risk of exposing herself in that environment to be drug raped/gang-banged. Being with 'friends' that doesn't look out for you, aren't worthy of being called friends.
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post Apr 17 2014, 02:10 AM

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If this happened in Malaysia, then I call bullsh1t.

1.I frequent clubs and all clubs that I have been to have staff (mainly foreign workers) in the toilet or standing outside the toilet at all times. They do this because drunk people wandering into the wrong toilet happens a few hundred times every night.

2. Due to intake of alcohol, the need to urinate increases. If you have ever been to a club, a trip to the loo is very annoying because the number of people using the toilets is extremely high. Even guys have to queue up for extended periods of time to use the urinal.

3. Toilets in clubs are very small and narrow because they want to maximize drinking areas and dance floor. You will have a hard enough time fitting yourself into the broomcloset of a cubicle, much less trying to fit multiple guys in. Unless they jz stand in there like a sardin can i suppose lol

4. Due to high number of people walking in and out of the toilet, it would be an extremely difficult task for multiple men to drag an unconscious girl in without being seen.

This is just a few of the points that dont add up. There are plenty others as pointed out by the other forumers.

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post Apr 17 2014, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 16 2014, 06:05 PM)
Last I heard abortion is illegal unless is in danger to the mother right ? And I do not want to kill a baby as it is bad karma to me wink.gif
For all I care, is better to be selfish then be a white knight. STD is going to affect your future.
She went against my warning and thinks she is very smart and safe with her friends, hence she got what she deserve if this happens.
If you as a guy got STD from a similar case, will the girl still stay with him ?  wink.gif
Ocean is wide, many fish, can always fish for more.
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Sometimes even if you have a great success in your life, but you don't have someone whom you really love you and who love you a lot back, it is just ........... I am not killing a baby, even if the baby is born, he will suffer a lot, so because of his future, I am just making the action done before it gets worse. Even if she has STD, there are so many STDs can be healed, even if she has AIDS, I will live beside her until her last breaths. Of course, that is why I am telling, do you really love her. I don't love any girls and I always choose but once it is confirmed that I really love her, I can give up anythings for her. It is like I love Hazel Lew, a girl from KK, but sometimes, in your life, if you have more duties to serve than your love life, you have to serve it smile.gif
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QUOTE(dewill @ Apr 16 2014, 11:49 PM)
she too wild for him, he cant able to give security to her.
better part the way. let her go free back into clubbing
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So what she needs in a bf is another wild man who would organize "parties" and participate himself. laugh.gif
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post Apr 17 2014, 05:07 AM

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girl was at fault

but as a woman, i kesian her needed to learn her lesson like that

or had she actually learn her lesson yet
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post Apr 17 2014, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 16 2014, 03:23 PM)
It is all depends on the perception of the guy towards "clubbing".

For me, I dont think going to a club for birthday celebration purpose is wrong (unless the friends are mostly consist of lala guys lol). Apatah lagi getting raped. Hence I would care her more, and of course want her to take this as a lesson.

But different story la if she go celebrate for a guy's birthday alone without other friends... that is spanar lol
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What if she got AIDS after this?? Will you still take care of her??
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post Apr 17 2014, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(bubu2010 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:34 AM)
Sometimes even if you have a great success in your life, but you don't have someone whom you really love you and who love you a lot back, it is just ........... I am not killing a baby, even if the baby is born, he will suffer a lot, so because of his future, I am just making the action done before it gets worse. Even if she has STD, there are so many STDs can be healed, even if she has AIDS, I will live beside her until her last breaths. Of course, that is why I am telling, do you really love her. I don't love any girls and I always choose but once it is confirmed that I really love her, I can give up anythings for her. It is like I love Hazel Lew, a girl from KK, but sometimes, in your life, if you have more duties to serve than your love life, you have to serve it smile.gif
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Sorry, but Im not a person who believe love is everything wink.gif

But is great for your GF to have a person like you who will standby her side whenever needed laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Apr 16 2014, 09:37 PM)
Sure. I will have all my gentleman bros to treat her nicely, including nice accomodation. of course i will ask nicely on their behalf.  brows.gif  brows.gif
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post Apr 17 2014, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Tyler__Durden @ Apr 17 2014, 12:09 AM)
You caught me trolling there, teeheehee.

Regardless, point being that in this age, there's no implicit agreement on how both sexes should act in a relationship and also marriages. Most women want to be empowered and enjoyed their freedom in being a town bike and hence should be encouraged to do so, and see both sexes are in serial monogamy most of the time, I just don't see the benefits of teaching how a woman should act in her adult years, that's her parents responsibility.

Like it or not, most females fumbled throughout their twenties not knowing what they should do in a relationship, and even if her partner tried to restraint her, it will be looked upon as an oppression, and women wants to get to do whatever she wants(which is fun), and there's nothing a man can do to stop her. The man will be looked like an a$$hole in TS case in whatever he does, and at the end of the day nothing he does will benefit him should she hates him for restricting her freedom, and all his teaching will only benefit other man that marries her(should she decides to turn another leaf for another man by being an enlightened virgin), which most white knight will do.

I don't see the point in teaching women in how to be adult, especially in cases whereby the end result doesn't benefit me. Since women want to have fun fun fun, might as well enjoy the fun, then find other women that can be adult should the man wants a marriage. Let those women that wanna have fun be the headache of other white knights that marries her.

If the girl doesn't treat the relationship seriously, why should the man treat her serious? Go find other girls for fun fun fun la, since there are many of them around anyway.
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Stop spilling the beans!
If girls realize this and stop having fun fun fun, where the hell you and me get to fun fun fun?

QUOTE(spanker @ Apr 17 2014, 12:57 AM)
Right... your opinions are better than others, the others who disagrees with you are retards, and you're a genius, even though your base your opinions on worse foundations and logic. But hey, no worries, your opinions are better, because god forbid, who knows how badly your world will turn upside down if there isn't a woman who is a victim for you.
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Should I just clap and say thank you thank you? What I see from your reply leads only to shaming AND i'm sure i'm better than that.
Since you are not one of those retards that equates wanting to party with rape. I can't make fun of you. So, you are boring. Hahaha. laugh.gif


It doesn't worry me that much if it's a consented one. I will join the band that call her a sl*t.
Else, some people will live in fear because of some stray dogs. Who knows these dogs might be interested in the @sshole like yours? laugh.gif

This post has been edited by RUI: Apr 17 2014, 10:54 AM
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post Apr 17 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(RUI @ Apr 16 2014, 05:17 PM)

I'm just angry with the society to allows dogs to live amongst men. It's not white knighting. It's just not wanting any men including YOU to live in fear just because of some stray dogs. I'm not too sure if me and you or other forumers are on the same page,
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No consent = rape. Agree with this.

Unfortunately, we cannot define rapists as strays as we can identity between strays but not wolves in sheep's clothing. Such is not society's problem anymore when it was the girl who chose to party til wee hours, shoving every bottles into her mouth that in the end allowing wolves to shove their poles into her.

No doubt no girls want to get raped but in most times their actions that can prevent it. In short, she put herself in this situation. Clearly I will never be with a clubbing girl (just me only) because to me they only know how to put themselves into such situation and then play victim on it.

QUOTE(ace.princess @ Apr 16 2014, 05:07 PM)
Depends on context. Was she drug raped? Was she flirting around, inviting unwanted attention?

There could be reasons why she did not allow him to go, perhaps it's really an all-girl party after all.

Whatever happened there, it's her behaviour and intentions that matter.

Just because she went clubbing without her bf, she shouldn't be labelled a slut. Only if she behaved in a way that attracted the attention, then yeah she's asking for it.
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How can a all girl party end up into being a toilet seat? I am damn sure she is asking for it, and deserves it.

Also:-
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Win liao lo....


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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Apr 17 2014, 11:01 AM)
No consent = rape. Agree with this.

Unfortunately, we cannot define rapists as strays as we can identity between strays but not wolves in sheep's clothing. Such is not society's problem anymore when it was the girl who chose to party til wee hours, shoving every bottles into her mouth that in the end allowing wolves to shove their poles into her.

No doubt no girls want to get raped but in most times their actions that can prevent it. In short, she put herself in this situation. Clearly I will never be with a clubbing girl (just me only) because to me they only know how to put themselves into such situation and then play victim on it.
How can a all girl party end up into being a toilet seat? I am damn sure she is asking for it, and deserves it.

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Win liao lo....
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I just read this from FB news, so not sure about the details.

But I can prove that some points about club conditions might depend on which day.

I have a friend (MIA for a long time), he was quite a player guy.

He went to a club with his gang and he saw a quite cute girl going into the toilet.

He followed her in and hugged her from behind (and yes, he's drunk).

The gang noticed a bit late, ran over and tried to stop him.

Girl was screaming for help, the bf came, punched my friend on the face so he got one bruised eye after that.

If the girl was drunk, she might be DEAD MEAT already by my friend.
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QUOTE(juicyliana @ Apr 16 2014, 03:16 PM)
ditch her like disease!
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She was not listening to him at the very first place. And drinking to much will make any female prones to be easy with any guys and the girl should know that before hand to not drink as much and i bet she didnt care. So the answer is there. . . .
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Fu bf told before jangan kan beruk. Then y do it.

Now got raped adey. Fun adey

Taste the pain

Bf got all rights in the world to fakap that biacth

Tula bf said good things dn follow then after kena rape rape sendiri punya silap mau say sory2 lets get good life together2 fu.

Sudah koyak besar lagi ada mau ka. Lanjahau.



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