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 PROTON EXORA BOLD OWNERS THREAD! V3, Unleash the turbo power!

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wai1460
post Apr 3 2014, 09:07 AM

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New 2014 Exora Bold version will come with turbo emblem.
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post Apr 3 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(akchang @ Apr 2 2014, 04:45 PM)
If u dismantle the air intake hose see the oil sludge around your turbo input. The breather also catch oil fumes which in long run you will see oil sludge build up in the tank.

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What is “Blow-By” or is it normal for my car to have oil in the intake plumbing?

In your motor, the piston is moving up and down in its cylinder, and the rings on the piston are creating a seal so that when you ignite an air-fuel mixture, that reaction is converted into power. As good a seal as the rings make, they will never be perfect. What this means is that some of that expanding gas will get past the rings, and then it will be present in the crank-case.

First, keep in mind that we are talking about a very small percentage of pressure here (as long as your engine is in good running order), but that pressure still has to go somewhere. For this reason, your car has a Positive Crank-Case Ventilation (or PCV) to release this pressure, and it will rout it back into your intake system.

There are two reasons that this is sent back into the intake, rather than being sent out to atmosphere. The first is that Automobile manufacturers aren’t allowed to emit anything directly to the atmosphere for environmental reasons. The second is that it can actually be advantageous for there to be a slight vacuum present in the crank-case because then there is less on the piston’s down-stroke.

However, because this air comes from the crank-case where there is a lot of oil present, this air usually has some oil vapor present in it. This oil is also referred to as blow-by, and in moderation, it is completely normal.

https://www.facebook.com/TurboOwnersClub/po...578421665588110
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post Apr 3 2014, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(wai1460 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:07 AM)
New 2014 Exora Bold version will come with turbo emblem.
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post Apr 3 2014, 10:47 AM

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post Apr 3 2014, 10:53 AM

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post Apr 3 2014, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(rOnnyJustrOn @ Apr 3 2014, 10:11 AM)
What is “Blow-By” or is it normal for my car to have oil in the intake plumbing?

In your motor, the piston is moving up and down in its cylinder, and the rings on the piston are creating a seal so that when you ignite an air-fuel mixture, that reaction is converted into power.  As good a seal as the rings make, they will never be perfect.  What this means is that some of that expanding gas will get past the rings, and then it will be present in the crank-case.

First, keep in mind that we are talking about a very small percentage of pressure here (as long as your engine is in good running order), but that pressure still has to go somewhere.  For this reason, your car has a Positive Crank-Case Ventilation (or PCV) to release this pressure, and it will rout it back into your intake system.

There are two reasons that this is sent back into the intake, rather than being sent out to atmosphere.  The first is that Automobile manufacturers aren’t allowed to emit anything directly to the atmosphere for environmental reasons.  The second is that it can actually be advantageous for there to be a slight vacuum present in the crank-case because then there is less on the piston’s down-stroke.

However, because this air comes from the crank-case where there is a lot of oil present, this air usually has some oil vapor present in it.  This oil is also referred to as blow-by, and in moderation, it is completely normal.

https://www.facebook.com/TurboOwnersClub/po...578421665588110
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Ohh yes this is wat I meant exactly.

Thanks for the share

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post Apr 3 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 3 2014, 10:53 AM)
Pls can help to confirm, the breather hose is before the turbo and intercooler?
IMO, blow by can cause oil droplets in mid air, and the partly the heat will boil the EO to turn it to fume. When that happens, many side effects including carbon build up on piston below piston ring, together with degraded oil additive, and in turn causing sludge.
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Hi, if u see "ronnyjustron" link the pictures explains it.

So by replacing the the crank hose to oil catch tank can tremendously reduce the oil build up in long runs. Still u need to check the turbo inlet from time to time.
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post Apr 3 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(arza04 @ Apr 2 2014, 09:41 PM)
8k difference is worth it, front armrest is important for long journey, nicer interior and electric wing mirror sometimes can be usful too

If budget allows, just go for premium smile.gif
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Yes, if budget allows go for the premium.
As the 8 to 10k is worth when you look at the Auto-Cruise and the other additional fittings.
Last time, I tried 3 additional fittings for my Standard CPS and had issues.
1. the Seat armrest - the SC tried and couldn't fit as there was no hole in the frame and told me that it can be done only if I upgrade my Seat frame.
2. Fog lamp the centre console wiring in standard doesn't support for the Foglamp (but I saw from the forum one of the Workshop near KL can DIY this).
3. Auto-cruise - forget about this as it will be a major upgrade which none of the SC is willing to do (don't know about outside)
4. Auto Fold Side mirrors - I done this DIY also for my previous CPS and it was very expensive as I bought the Original Auto Fold Side mirrors (from Proton Spare parts) to suite well and do the wiring outside.
So if you end up buying all these things from outside, it will end up paying more than this. Only advantage I could see is the DVD and Monitors you can have as per your choice......

Factory fittings are the perfect ones biggrin.gif

At the same time those additional fittings as well as the features are of no use for you then you may consider standard.

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putramon
post Apr 3 2014, 01:07 PM

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Noted and thanks...btw...the current premium variant does it comes with tinted? cause their online brochures are not up to date...

is the rims for standard and premium the same? or standard is just a rim cap?

anybody get the Take now pay later offer? (free up to 6 months installment) does it applies to exora too? (sorry..this is for year 2013 stock only)

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post Apr 3 2014, 01:42 PM

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akchangoh man, that is f* up.
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post Apr 3 2014, 02:02 PM

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Add up to standard CFE Exora.
No Keyhole light
No seatbelt alert
Rear seat din't have hand hold assy.(the one at the roof to hole hand)
No wiring to fog lamp at bumper.
No wiring to BCM from centre console switch
3rd seat din't have headrest.
2nd seat din't have fold able arm rest.
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post Apr 3 2014, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(rOnnyJustrOn @ Apr 3 2014, 02:02 PM)
Add up to standard CFE Exora.
No Keyhole light
No seatbelt alert
Rear seat din't have hand hold assy.(the one at the roof to hole hand)
No wiring to fog lamp at bumper.
No wiring to BCM from centre console switch
3rd seat din't have headrest.
2nd seat din't have fold able arm rest.
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ahh..ok..so provided if got a lil extra budget just go ahead with premium i suppose? what's BCM btw?
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QUOTE(putramon @ Apr 3 2014, 02:23 PM)
ahh..ok..so provided if got a lil extra budget just go ahead with premium i suppose? what's BCM btw?
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Body control module. Control every feature on dashboard light and like example wiper speed etc.
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post Apr 3 2014, 02:52 PM

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Shitz...just blew the radiator hose to turbo cooling. Temporary fix super glue the hose... Haiz
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post Apr 3 2014, 02:54 PM

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I think I should add the differences between Standard and Premium variants to the first page laugh.gif

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Differences between Standard variant and Premium variant
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Sky0ne
post Apr 3 2014, 03:11 PM

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Eh i think mine have the seatbelt alert. But i noticed that the aircond vents at the driver and passenger side (near the doors) is black in color
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QUOTE(Sky0ne @ Apr 3 2014, 03:11 PM)
Eh i think mine have the seatbelt alert. But i noticed that the aircond vents at the driver and passenger side (near the doors) is black in color
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yours is standard ?
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post Apr 3 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(YouDontKnowMyName @ Apr 3 2014, 03:11 PM)
yours is standard ?
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Yup. Maybe need to double confirm first about the seatbelt alert
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post Apr 3 2014, 05:22 PM

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Who's in for oil-catch tank? I looked for how some people had to flush the intercooler made me sweat.
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QUOTE(mandrew @ Apr 3 2014, 12:02 PM)
Yes, if budget allows go for the premium.
As the 8 to 10k is worth when you look at the Auto-Cruise and the other additional fittings.
Last time, I tried 3 additional fittings for my Standard CPS and had issues.
1. the Seat armrest - the SC tried and couldn't fit as there was no hole in the frame and told me that it can be done only if I upgrade my Seat frame.
2. Fog lamp the centre console wiring in standard doesn't support for the Foglamp (but I saw from the forum one of the Workshop near KL can DIY this).
3. Auto-cruise - forget about this as it will be a major upgrade which none of the SC is willing to do (don't know about outside)
4. Auto Fold Side mirrors - I done this DIY also for my previous CPS and it was very expensive as I bought the Original Auto Fold Side mirrors (from Proton Spare parts) to suite well and do the wiring outside.
So if you end up buying all these things from outside, it will end up paying more than this. Only advantage I could see is the DVD and Monitors you can have as per your choice......

Factory fittings are the perfect ones  biggrin.gif

At the same time those additional fittings as well as the features are of no use for you then you may consider standard.
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yeah, i once done more then 1500KM journey in two days, and the auto-cruise really help a lot. thumbup.gif

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